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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Please bear in mind before becoming hopeful that old people may very well have postally voted weeks ago
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:14 |
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Jose posted:what did ipso mori have labour polling at before the election got called? As has been pointed out already 30% a month before and 26% the week after. So They have Labour up around 10%-14% over the campaign. I'm excited. Namtab posted:Please bear in mind before becoming hopeful that old people may very well have postally voted weeks ago They usually ask if you've postal voted.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:14 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:15 |
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nopantsjack posted:i had to look up when the labour leadership elections took place and it reminded me how badly Corbyn destroyed the other contenders haha, then they tried to knife him again when the tories were weak and he just got more votes lmao the PLP are basically libdems, they should just split off Labour and merge into Libdem.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:15 |
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blowfish posted:the PLP are basically libdems, they should just split off Labour and merge into Libdem. That might happen if Corbyn doesn't resign after the election.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:16 |
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The only poll I trust is the exit
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:16 |
Zalakwe posted:Five points is a very interesting number, if you go by national swing along anything less than 6 points hangs parliament.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:16 |
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gently caress giant pandas imo, red pandas are where it's at
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:16 |
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Pissflaps posted:That might happen if Corbyn doesn't resign after the election. Good, gently caress them. They're neoliberal snakes and the party will be stronger without them.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:16 |
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Pissflaps posted:That might happen if Corbyn doesn't resign after the election. Why should a brand new Prime Minister resign?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:17 |
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Pissflaps posted:That might happen if Corbyn doesn't resign after the election. Just proves that they weren't really on the side of organised Labour.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:17 |
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Namtab posted:Please bear in mind before becoming hopeful that old people may very well have postally voted weeks ago This is very true and a good point. However back on the hopeful front postal votes dropped during the first big Labour surge. One of the things that did for Remain was that leave was in the ascendancy during postal voting. Still though, it's important to keep our hope balanced.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:18 |
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This communist can't even keep his own twitter safe. How is he supposed to protect the country, the economy, or your family?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:18 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why should a brand new Prime Minister resign? That's not quite what I meant.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:18 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why should a brand new Prime Minister resign? Because she's clearly not cut out for the job.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:18 |
All this is going to make Friday 9th so much more painful
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:18 |
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jBrereton posted:Does that calculation include SF not turning up? I have no idea I'm afraid, It was Mike Smithson's not mine. Probably is my instinct given how knowledgeable he is.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:18 |
SteelMentor posted:Good, gently caress them. They're neoliberal snakes and the party will be stronger without them. So explain how the party benefits.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:19 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:As has been pointed out already 30% a month before and 26% the week after. So They have Labour up around 10%-14% over the campaign. They do, but '40% of old people who haven't postal-voted' may be a significantly smaller number.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:19 |
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I'm not going to pretend I particularly love the SNP or anything, but just out of curiosity what would you actually want Nicola to say when asked what she'd do in a hung parliament where the SNP holds the balance of power? Just refuse to answer?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:20 |
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Pissflaps posted:That might happen if Corbyn doesn't resign after the election. It's hard to see that if (and this is now a fairly likely scenario) Labour got ~37% and the Tories squeaked by with a 20-30 seat majority that the more anti-Corbyn elements of the PLP would be inclined to jump ship to the absolute trainwreck of the Lib Dems, especially since the most anti-Corbyn MPs tend to come from very Brexity seats. We might be in for our 3rd annual Labour leadership contest though.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:21 |
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Namtab posted:Just proves that they weren't really on the side of organised Labour. It is bizzare, its literally the name of the party guys. Go join the #libdemfightback. I do wonder what will happen when Labour lose badly, I'm guessing the popularity of the manifesto is immediately retconned into nonexistance and we go back to huge amounts of infighting and thirdwayism. Although haha the only way there would be MORE infighting than that is if Corbyn won. Labour party loves infighting as much as the Tories love naked power grabs.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:21 |
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Kurtofan posted:why did may call the election lol Several Tory MP's faced prosecution over electoral fraud which would have been enough to take away their majority. So rather than go though a massive scandal that would damage their credibility she decided to call a general election against a poorly performing opposition while they were still on their Brexit high. Then she absolutely hosed it. And election broadcasting standards came in and Corbyn performed tremendously and put out a manifesto that was extremely good.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:23 |
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lol i remember this
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:23 |
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feedmegin posted:I would just like to say you are v bad at knowing where Reading is. I know little of The Northern Wasteland.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:23 |
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Angepain posted:I'm not going to pretend I particularly love the SNP or anything, but just out of curiosity what would you actually want Nicola to say when asked what she'd do in a hung parliament where the SNP holds the balance of power? Just refuse to answer? The SNP wouldn't hold the balance of power. What's the snp going to do - vote with the Tories ?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:23 |
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davey cameron is a pie
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:24 |
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Topically, I talked to my mum for the first time in a while and she hates May and the local Tory enough to consider voting Labour, but the chance that the party might just implode and not get anything done is putting her off. So, thanks, Blairite scum.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:24 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I think I can hear the sound of goalposts being dragged along the ground by Dan Hodges somewhere. https://twitter.com/HywelRoberts2/status/867907940807823360
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:25 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:26 |
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Angepain posted:I'm not going to pretend I particularly love the SNP or anything, but just out of curiosity what would you actually want Nicola to say when asked what she'd do in a hung parliament where the SNP holds the balance of power? Just refuse to answer? Yeah, the papers are gonna accuse Corbyn of being a trojan horse for the SNP regardless, they've been doing it since Miliband. Sturgeon gave a good answer and one that makes sense, like most of Sturgeons positions do. Don't really know why the English hate the SNP so much, I'm guessing its the papers? I moved up North a littlle before the indyref and SNP got big and its really strange seeing the divide in opinion from back home. You see a lot of "whining/traitorous/racist SNP" comments from all kinds of people. Counter to conventional wisdom the English seem to harbour a lot more resentment towards the Scots than vice versa (I've never once had anyone chat poo poo to me apart from a dude from RoI who I agreed with), the Scots do hate Westminster though like all right-thinking individuals.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:26 |
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the elusive migrating goalposts
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:27 |
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Pissflaps posted:The SNP wouldn't hold the balance of power. What's the snp going to do - vote with the Tories ? Depends on the issue, I guess - it's not like they've never done it before. If Labour goes into either a coalition or confidence and supply, I assume they'd have to tailor their policies to make them more SNP-friendly in order to get through.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:27 |
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Praseodymi posted:Topically, I talked to my mum for the first time in a while and she hates May and the local Tory enough to consider voting Labour, but the chance that the party might just implode and not get anything done is putting her off. I talked to my mum about the election and she ended up carrying me around the house on her shoulders.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:28 |
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Pissflaps posted:I talked to my mum about the election and she ended up carrying me around the house on her shoulders. your mum must be strong
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:29 |
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jBrereton posted:The party was out of power for 15 years the last time they did something similar, and if the Lib Dems had worked with Labour in 2010 we wouldn't be in this mess, would we? The PLP spent the past 2 or so years cocking up trying to stab Corbyn in the back and making Labour look like a laughing stock. Despite all evidence showing that Blarite Neoliberalism isn't working or appealing to voters in any way they keep trying to drag the party away from it's course-correction back to the Left and having a hissyfit whenever the party membership keeps showing that they want that drift back. Look at the change in Labour's performance once they collectively shut up and fell in line, now we're in the brighter situation we're in now. tl;dr: gently caress Neolibs forever.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:29 |
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My daughter has decided that she wants to be prime minister. Her key policy initiatives:
Still better than the lib dems IMO.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:30 |
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Pissflaps posted:The SNP wouldn't hold the balance of power. What's the snp going to do - vote with the Tories ? So, to clarify, you'd agree her statement earlier mentioned in the Buzzfeed article was entirely unremarkable and just repeating what we all know they're going to do, then?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:30 |
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nopantsjack posted:Yeah, the papers are gonna accuse Corbyn of being a trojan horse for the SNP regardless, they've been doing it since Miliband. Sturgeon gave a good answer and one that makes sense, like most of Sturgeons positions do. Labour voters in England hate the SNP because the SNP means Scotland isn't an automatic extra few dozen seats for Labour anymore. Tory voters in England hate the SNP because obviously their policies don't align very much.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:30 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Depends on the issue, I guess - it's not like they've never done it before. If Labour goes into either a coalition or confidence and supply, I assume they'd have to tailor their policies to make them more SNP-friendly in order to get through. The snp likes to wear progressive clothes. It would be hard to disrupt legislation proposed by a Corbyn-led minority government and still maintain that.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 12:30 |