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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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OwlFancier posted:Why do they all look so loving weird. Roald Dahl was right, ugly thoughts do make you ugly. Though in this case it looks like being a irredeemable oval office makes you look like one.
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OwlFancier posted:Why do they all look so loving weird. Their faces are frozen in the exact moment they're having kinky thoughts about nuclear apocalypse.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:18
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OwlFancier posted:Unless right to remain in one EU country also gives you free movement which I don't know if it does. In most of the EU if you acquire long-term residency status by legally living in the country for 5 years without using social assistance (unemployment) you can then exercise freedom of movement to live/work in another EU country - but the demands that you are self-sufficient/working reset and you don't gain permanent residency in your new country until you reside there for further 5 years The UK has an opt out of this system by the way (surprise)
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Jun 3, 2017 01:22
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In all the furore over the debate, has anyone noticed that Michael Fallon has apparently promised that 'higher earners' won't face a tax rise under a Tory government? https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/870751698238803972 This just seems like another obviously bad move, unless all Tory voters consider themselves to be high earners. I mean how much intelligence do you need to figure out Tory plans if they will pledge not to raise taxes on high earners but they won't simply pledge not to raise taxes?
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Jun 3, 2017 01:30
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TomViolence posted:
Was top left mustache dude not reasonably ok by comparison
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Jun 3, 2017 01:30
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Tesseraction posted:what's rhizzone like these days anyway? I seem to remember going to check it out and saw some charming post about how trans people should kill themselves which rather put me off but I hear it's nothing like that now? its good and the few people with terrible opinions get shamed out of posting whenever they rear their heads
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Jun 3, 2017 01:30
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TomViolence posted:
if they ever make another DEFCON game these should all be selectable avatars
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Jun 3, 2017 01:33
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jabby posted:This just seems like another obviously bad move, unless all Tory voters consider themselves to be high earners. I mean how much intelligence do you need to figure out Tory plans if they will pledge not to raise taxes on high earners but they won't simply pledge not to raise taxes? Depends how big the temporarily embarrassed millionaire demographic is in the UK, I guess. I didn't think we went in for that as much as the US, but once all those foreigns stop stealing our jobs, maybe we'll all be rolling in it?
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Jun 3, 2017 01:34
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jabby posted:In all the furore over the debate, has anyone noticed that Michael Fallon has apparently promised that 'higher earners' won't face a tax rise under a Tory government? Bear in mind that the Telegraph did a front page a couple of days ago about the terrible injustice of top-rate tax payers now making up a whole 0.6% of the population.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:35
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Igiari posted:The very final thing, that, oh my god this loving triggered me. It was just, on a, on a deep seated level I couldn't get over this. This really loving pissed me off. So brace yourselves. If this isn't a quote then I hate you I guess
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Jun 3, 2017 01:53
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TACD posted:The outcome of this election is pretty much going to determine whether I prioritise looking for a postdoc here or somewhere sane like Canada or Norway Better option: don't get a postdoc anywhere, run swiftly away from academia at the first available opportunity. I've been doing it for 13 years and I'd seriously never recommend it to anyone. Bad hours, bad management, bad pay, absolutely atrocious job security, and this is the case in most countries you might choose. As much as I love Norway, universities are nasty there too -- recently had a friend there whose employer said 'ah yes, you've been here 4 years, we shall make you permanent, as the law requires... by giving you a 0.25FTE position with no research time! Good luck with your career!' I mean, yeah this country is particularly bad because 2/3rds of all researchers are on fixed-term contracts, zero-hours teaching positions are proliferating, our wages have dropped like 15% since 2009, and the Tories are waging full-on war against the sector since they got in. But everywhere's pretty bad.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:55
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Is it still doxxing when someone exposes info about a person who was on TV? ”Small business” Kapoor was identified as a near millionaire so why not the nuke fetishists from tonight?
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Jun 3, 2017 01:57
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Guy Goodbody posted:So if May gets re-elected, shouldn't they all do that? I mean, every time a Republican in America gets elected, people say they're gonna move to Canada but they never do. But that seems like a really viable option for British people, especially ones who have specialized skills like being a doctor I'm hoping to be able to do just that by capitalising on my electrical installation and design qualifications and experience- although I doubt that those such as I will be as attractive as Doctors and Nurses- hell, I don't even know if my British qualifications are transferable in Europe?
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Jun 3, 2017 02:02
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Verizian posted:Is it still doxxing when someone exposes info about a person who was on TV? ”Small business” Kapoor was identified as a near millionaire so why not the nuke fetishists from tonight? It's not like it would make any difference, no-one really sees that stuff. They just see the debate. Tonight did make me wonder though, both debates so far have had 'balanced' audiences. So how much of the IRA/Trident stuff is coming from members of the public who are genuinely interested to hear Corbyn's views on the subject, and how much is just from Tory supporters who know it's the best way to damage him? Do the public actually care enough about those topics that they should dominate all his interviews or is this just a prime example of how the newspapers can set the entire agenda? Obviously I'm inclined to think the latter. I'd be interested to see a debate sometime with an audience of entirely undecided voters, rather than one mainly composed of self-described supporters of one side or the other.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:03
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I think it was almost certainly a planted audience. On the other hand Corbyn should have expected it.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:07
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kustomkarkommando posted:Persumably someone who lives in east or south belfast I have voted Alliance ever since I got a leaflet from them promising to take down union flags. It's not a nationalist thing, I just really dislike the design  Tacky poo poo 
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Jun 3, 2017 02:09
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Verizian posted:Is it still doxxing when someone exposes info about a person who was on TV? ”Small business” Kapoor was identified as a near millionaire so why not the nuke fetishists from tonight? Are they all going to end up being nuclear technicians I wonder :thonk:
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Jun 3, 2017 02:16
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Vitamin P posted:Mutually assured destruction is a thing people understand and people don't like to be told, by a man wanting to be their leader, that 'we loving die and the fucks that killed get off scott free lol' is in any way a plan. Is it not the case that Brexit will probably overwrite living standards and secure employment, regardless of whether Labour or Conservative are in power? I have yet to read, here or elsewhere, a satisfactory explanation of how the currently costed Labour or Conservative manifesto pledges could be honoured in a Brexit financial climate? I believe that the Institute for Fiscal Studies and the London School of Economics have forecast that something like 160 to 250 billion pounds will have to be found by the Exchequer to ensure that the vital components of our national economy are somewhat protected from the worst effects of an exit from the Single Market and Customs Union over the next five years- neither manifesto mentions this, or indeed their own Brexit treasury forecast. I will in all probability vote Labour, now that the #LibDemFightBack has shot its round into a beanbag- but I have no confidence that a Labour Treasury will be able to subsidise the consequences of leaving the Single Market any better than a Conservative Treasury.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:16
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TomViolence posted:
Bedshaped posted:Are they all going to end up being nuclear technicians I wonder :thonk: No. These men have all been playing a game of Civ 2 against Gandhi since 1996.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:22
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think it was almost certainly a planted audience. On the other hand Corbyn should have expected it. Is this like the absolute reverse of the BBC debates where it's the left's turn to scream about an unbalanced audience?
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Jun 3, 2017 02:25
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Namtab posted:Is this like the absolute reverse of the BBC debates where it's the left's turn to scream about an unbalanced audience? To be fair I think it's clear those men were manifestly unbalanced. Except for Wilford Brimley there who was mostly on the level.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:27
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Since May called the election out of nowhere I didn't have a chance to get election day off and I'm working all night, sadly with my racist, UKIP voters and Leave voters. Hopefully it'll be quiet and I can follow along anyway. I've also got mandatory training in the daytime which is bad at the best of times but it'll be even worse now I could be getting the vote out for Labour instead.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:27
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TomViolence posted:To be fair I think it's clear those men were manifestly unbalanced. Except for Wilford Brimley there who was mostly on the level. Tesseraction posted:what's rhizzone like these days anyway?
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Jun 3, 2017 02:38
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minema posted:Since May called the election out of nowhere I didn't have a chance to get election day off and I'm working all night, sadly with my racist, UKIP voters and Leave voters. Hopefully it'll be quiet and I can follow along anyway. I've also got mandatory training in the daytime which is bad at the best of times but it'll be even worse now I could be getting the vote out for Labour instead. Throw a sickie. Do it for your country.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:53
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United Statesian here. Are you guys actually going to rally around Labor and send Jeremy Corbyn to Downing Street? I mean I'm just a no good foreign scrublord, but I guess I'm pro-Labor anti-Brexit ehhhhh-Corbyn so I don't know how to feel about that. 
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Jun 3, 2017 03:18
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Even given their surge Labour will very likely be the smaller party than the Tories after the election. A hung parliament is possible, an Tory majority that is increased but not by as much as was expected is imo still the likely outcome. The excitement comes from the exposure of the Tories and May as vile bunglers in an election intended to cement their ascendancy, and the left having their politics proved viable rather than inevitably disastrous. For Corbyn specifically, his hand will be strengthened by a good performance and if it's anywhere in the realm of close he can plausibly accuse his opponents in the party of delivering the election to the Tories by trying to undermine him for two years. They'll respond that someone else as leader would have beaten the tories, but that's a weaker argument because it changes more variables.
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Jun 3, 2017 03:33
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Killed By Death posted:Is Rhizzone one of those offsites that sprung up after LF got closed? I googled it to look and one of the first posters I saw was Getfiscal, which is, well, lol it's the lf offsite that doesn't think jokes are counter-revolutionary
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Jun 3, 2017 03:38
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lol but seriously I posted:Throw a sickie. Do it for your country. I've already been to my manager and asked for it off as annual leave and told her why, so it'll be a bit suspicious if I do. 
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Jun 3, 2017 04:13
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Peel posted:Even given their surge Labour will very likely be the smaller party than the Tories after the election. A hung parliament is possible, an Tory majority that is increased but not by as much as was expected is imo still the likely outcome. specifically, he needs to deliver victories in at least a few marginals - not merely win romping majorities in extant seats the problem is that people are telling focus groupers that They Like Labour's Policies But... and it takes a lot of electoral swing to overcome what people are telling you as a prior
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Jun 3, 2017 04:19
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minema posted:I've already been to my manager and asked for it off as annual leave and told her why, so it'll be a bit suspicious if I do. can you not Vote by proxy?
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Jun 3, 2017 04:21
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Gaz2k21 posted:can you not Vote by proxy? Oh I can still vote! I was just hoping to spend the day getting other people out to vote and then staying up with my partner to watch results/marathon The Thick Of It. I'll still be staying up all night but sadly will have to work as well.
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Jun 3, 2017 04:44
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Namtab posted:Is this like the absolute reverse of the BBC debates where it's the left's turn to scream about an unbalanced audience? Not really, the other one was an actual debate where the questions were put to everyone on the panel. Most of the complaints seemed to be about the general reactions of the audience (correctly laughing at the Tories and Eddie Hitler) This one was the leaders facing questions targeted specifically at them. It's not about the audience in general, it's about who was allowed to speak and the pre-approved questions they were allowed to direct at a single candidate. Corbyn got the greatest hits of the right-wing front pages over and over and over
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Jun 3, 2017 04:52
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crispix posted:I have voted Alliance ever since I got a leaflet from them promising to take down union flags. It's not a nationalist thing, I just really dislike the design Welp, been a wee while since I've had a good fight over flegs. e; crispix posted:No. These men have all been playing a game of Civ 2 against Gandhi since 1996. If that were true there'd be nobody upon this Earth more fanatically opposed to nuclear weapons than them. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 06:00
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Just popping in from six months ago to say that Corbyn is completely unelectable and needs to go
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Jun 3, 2017 06:43
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Liu posted:at least there's no pineapple Good pizzas: Ham, pineapple, canned tuna. Pepperoni, pineapple, jalapenos, hot sauce
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Jun 3, 2017 06:56
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His Divine Shadow posted:Good pizzas: Olives, pineapple, jalapenos, garlic
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Jun 3, 2017 07:20
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qhat posted:Just popping in from six months ago to say that Corbyn is completely unelectable and needs to go Labour will get 24% of the vote (I think this is still Dan Hodge's line so he can continue his streak of being wrong about everything)
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Jun 3, 2017 07:27
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If you haven't killed someone personally you shouldn't be allowed to be pro nuke.
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learnincurve posted:Absolutely, I was reacting to her garbled bollocks that made it sound like she has no clue about the difference between any non-physical disabilities and mental health issues. I was wishing somone had come back to her and asked her how funnelling resources into schools would help children with Down's syndrome or ASD with learning difficulties who already had diagnosis and are in special schools. I'm seeing nothing that would reverse the problems the Tory party has created when they decided to cancel respite funding because of "austerity" meaning we are all in it together or whatever bollocks they spouted while giving theselves a pay rise. Small point but current recommendation for children with Down's Syndrome is that they go to regular schools if possible as the evidence indicates it helps their development if they learn alongside typical peers. For that to happen and be effective there does need to be funding/support in place. And yet strangely despite May's claims I do not trust the Tories to deliver it.
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