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The real lesson here is that you should never make far-reaching foreign policy decisions on an empty stomach. Tensions flair every Ramadan. It's like, the opposite of what Ramadan is supposed to be about. We need a Muslim Charles Dickens to invent a jolly "Father Ramadan" figure to make the spirit of Ramadan more of a thing as opposed to some self-righteous comments about charity. It needs to be fun for people to have buy in.
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cargo cult posted:Combined with us pulling out of Paris it seems like the post-war order is imploding in a matter of months Pre-war! 
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haveblue posted:Haha, Trump thought he would be King of America and his word would be law. He has no idea how to deal with a process he can't command, intimidate, or buy out. Even funnier when you realize he was friends with Bill Clinton and should remember how the Lewinsky scandal unfolded. Trump's memory must be terrible.
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Jun 7, 2017 06:54
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I heard Trump backed off his Saudi Arabia support when Qatar offered to let him touch The Cube.
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Spacebump posted:Trump's memory must be terrible.
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Spacebump posted:Even funnier when you realize he was friends with Bill Clinton and should remember how the Lewinsky scandal unfolded. Trump's memory must be terrible. It is. He has a very serious personality disorder that prevents him from being able to use the past to inform the present where his own wellbeing is concerned.
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business hammocks posted:It is. He has a very serious personality disorder that prevents him from being able to use the past to inform the present where his own wellbeing is concerned. Can you tell me the name of this disorder and if there's a cure? Asking for a friend.
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business hammocks posted:It is. He has a very serious personality disorder that prevents him from being able to use the past to inform the present where his own wellbeing is concerned. Got mad for a minute cause I was pretty sure this post was callin' me out somehow
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CubanMissile posted:Can you tell me the name of this disorder and if there's a cure? Asking for a friend. Cure's cardiac arrest I think.
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mango sentinel posted:Yeah it's a natural arc, I was just piling on how misguided mantis was calling him a "career spook." Ah gotcha. Well hopefully some people learned something for my lazy copy/pasting of Wikipedia
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Unless  , Trump has Narcissistic Personality Disorder pretty loving clearly. The APA has a battle during the election cycle between their official stance of "We do not diagnose political figures without personally examining them" and a bunch of psychiatrists arguing that it was ethically irresponsible to not warn the public that the leader of the free world might be mentallly ill.
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quote:Iran's Tasnim news agency reported on Wednesday morning that three attackers opened fire inside Iran's parliament, with at least two injuries reported. The news service says that the incident is ongoing. http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/147235-170607-reports-of-shooting-inside-iranian-parliament https://twitter.com/Tasnimnews_EN/status/872336069622157312
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Developing story is right, there's only that single paragraph on that page. What are the chances this has something to do with Qatar and Saudi Arabia?
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Might be an ISIS-related attack? There's been a fair amount of domestic news/propaganda on finding plotters over the past few years. I doubt it's MEK/NCRI terrorists whose MO is more drive-by assassinations/bombings, but there's that precedent, too. (BTW both Gulliani, Howard Dean, and other US politicians have lobbied for NCRI.)
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Synthbuttrange posted:http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/147235-170607-reports-of-shooting-inside-iranian-parliament Welp, we had better hope it is the it isn't related to Qatar or ww might have one loving hell of a war breaking out extremely soon
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If Putin was behind the Qatar thing, he's owning the world right now. I wish we could just Seal Team 6 foreign legimate rulers. He got Trump elected definitely indirectly and maybe even directly through voting machines. Wouldn't be a shock if he got Brexit pushed through. He probably owns Trump and definitely owns Kushner. There are reports of large Russian troll factories posting to get us fighting online everywhere, along with fake news (before Trump hijacked that term). Anecdotally this is the only place I can go online where the comments arent flooded with misinformation and hate by fake accounts, and honestly think it is just because of 10 bucks. No loving way we have a large contingent of "patriots" applauding the dictator of Russia. Some of them are legitimate, but theyre morons being driven by large fake posting operations giving some sense of consensus within certain online communities. I feel like we are in a war with Russia right now and dont realize it because its on a new front. Putin needs to loving go, then we try and pick up the domestic pieces.
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https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/872338478285152256 https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/872340529438236673 https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/872341797644718081 https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/872342470331387904 So attacks on the Iranian Parliament and Imam Khomeini Mausoleum. OhFunny fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Welp, this could be easily be war now Duck, I hope someone is smart enough to keep trump out of this ahit Thank god we have a fully stocked and experienced State dept to help mediate everything 
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Another attack at the Khomeini Mausoleum so it's looking more and more related to the Qatar/Hezbollah fallout.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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Whomever is attacking, I would fully expect Iranians, from basijis to north tehran socialites, to rally around the government especially after the last election. I also don't expect Khomenei to advise or order anything that ups the ante, unless it's Syria or MEK related. Rugoberta Munchu posted:Another attack at the Khomeini Mausoleum so it's looking more and more related to the Qatar/Hezbollah fallout. Not really Qatar. I'm sure Iran's keeping it's nose clean on that until dust settles, publicly.
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So is this whole thing the first full-blown international crisis that Trump's had to respond to?
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That's not of his own making
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This is textbook hate speech. Literally. I remember reading about this kind of speech from a unit in a college poli sci class.
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^ but it entirely is! e: drat you, Kerbal!
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NewMars posted:So is this whole thing the first full-blown international crisis that Trump's had to respond to? Yeah, this is starting to feel like a very big and important incident
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Well if this week and the last couple of months is anything to go by, these will be Russian stooges (found out too late of course) with Saudi passports, kicking off a ME clusterfuck war.
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Synthbuttrange posted:That's not of his own making Considering it came on the coattails of his ME visit, public and private exchanges with the Sauds, and loving endorsing it on twitter, it comes as a result of the KSA/UAE taking advantage of his incompetence. You can make your own judgment on whether that's his fault or not.
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Jun 7, 2017 07:54
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How convenient war breaks out in the middle east right before comey's testimony.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Well if this week and the last couple of months is anything to go by, these will be Russian stooges (found out too late of course) with Saudi passports, kicking off a ME clusterfuck war. Oddly enough Israelis posed as CIA to support Jundallah in Iran: http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/01/13/false-flag/
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This isn't new and has been reported by the FBI for a while. Probably got worse when for some reason after 2008-11 when someone won something important.
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TOOT BOOT posted:How convenient war breaks out in the middle east right before comey's testimony. Shhh. People don't like conspiracy theories on this forum.
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Hollismason posted:Oh and This honestly smells like bullshit to me. You don't launch a coordinated international incident over a news article, fake or otherwise. That's just a cover story for whatever's really going on.
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Family Values posted:This honestly smells like bullshit to me. You don't launch a coordinated international incident over a news article, fake or otherwise. That's just a cover story for whatever's really going on. quote:The rift in the Gulf Cooperation Council and Arab nations was caused by Qatar being a maverick country that doesn't play by the rules the hegemon (Saudi Arabia) set. Saudi Arabia can't make them play by the rules by causing fuckery internally, since Qatar is a mostly unified constitutional monarchy that has very few internal divisions.
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Nothing is going to come from the Comey testimony. That's my hot take.
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Dirk Pitt posted:Nothing is going to come from the Comey testimony. That's my hot take. We'll at least get some sweet tweets.
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The Glumslinger posted:
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I think some of you are thinking too much into this attack in Iran. It's not like Iran doesn't have domestic terror groups and they've attacked before. In fact I think Khameini himself nearly got killed in a bomb attack in the 80s. There's video of it even. What I'm saying is, we aren't necessarily looking at yet another big mideast war because the Iranian Parliament was attacked. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the whole Qatar situation either. On a region where shootings/bombings are commonplace adding 2+2 together doesn't always equal 4.
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