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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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I will feel pretty bad at not cutting her much slack if it turns out Dianne Abbott has genuinely been struggling with a serious illness over the past few months.  Hope she gets better sooner. No update on the Poll of Polls, still a 7 point gap, so don't get your hopes up unecessarily, then if nothing else it's a nice surprise tomorrow. Edit:vv Definitely this. When Kuenssberg was summarising the feedback received in an article I read this morning, it was all "I like the policies, but not Corbyn". If the party can keep the thrust of the manifesto, which isn't actually particularly radical, and team it up with a leader less able to be assassinated in the press, that feels like it would be a strong platform for the future. Prince John fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 14:28
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dispatch_async posted:Latest Labour video (or at least I'd not seen it before): Win or lose (probably lose) the campaign Labour ran has been nothing short of masterful in it's approach, shame it's wasted on a country filled with Venal Tories.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:28
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Does anyone know if it is confirmed Corbyn is holding a rally in Islington tonight, and if so, where exactly? Feel I'd like to experience this campaign in person. 
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Jun 7, 2017 14:30
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The whole tactical voting thing seems pretty simple. If it's a Lib Dem-Tory marginal and Labour has no chance you vote Lib Dem. In every other case you vote Labour.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:31
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Cerv posted:i'm never one to turn down OT pay myself, but I don't follow how does it drive turnout in this situation? The benefit is that the vast majority of people now automatically have time off to vote instead of having to arrange it with their boss.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:33
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Lab/Lib/Nat/Sinn/Plaid/Green chaos boogaloo, revovution to the max, british irish people's republic established tories dubbed the enemy of the state
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Jun 7, 2017 14:34
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Are there any seats that are 3 way marginals?
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Jun 7, 2017 14:36
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dispatch_async posted:Latest Labour video (or at least I'd not seen it before): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bomygz1Ygkk&t=15s
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Jun 7, 2017 14:38
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CptAwesome posted:Are there any seats that are 3 way marginals? Brighton Pavilion was close to a 4-way before Caroline got elected.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:38
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I am going to be mainlining so much coffee to stay up till 4:30 and see if Nick Clegg has been loving shitcanned
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Jun 7, 2017 14:39
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sassassin posted:She says she's looking forward to being back by mid-July after doctors told her the illness could last 30 years. I see the illness hasn't affected her grasp of numbers 
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Jun 7, 2017 14:40
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Halisnacks posted:Does anyone know if it is confirmed Corbyn is holding a rally in Islington tonight, and if so, where exactly? I'd be interested too but he's set to walk it here so might be better off targeting somewhere away from home.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:44
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Can anyone explain to me at what stage we're failing to apprehend terror suspects? It's now known that authorities were aware of the Manchester bomber and the leader of the London bombings, so why was nothing done? At what point did the policing process fail? I don't buy the idea that we need more access to people's data and back doors to encryption because we already have plenty of good information and we're not acting on it.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:46
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/video/2017/jun/07/britain-transformed-election-what-on-earth-is-going-on-video Final pre-election Anywhere but Westminster is pretty good Just remember while watching that come Friday Theresa May will be lord (lady?) of all she surveys
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Jun 7, 2017 14:48
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The DPRK posted:Can anyone explain to me at what stage we're failing to apprehend terror suspects? You can't arrest/deport someone just because their mother-in-law says they're a bad egg and there's a photo of them holding a flag. You need hard evidence/proof of wrongdoing/conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism etc.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:50
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The DPRK posted:I don't buy the idea that we need more access to people's data and back doors to encryption because we already have plenty of good information and we're not acting on it. We have unrealistic expectations, too. The only "acceptable" number of terrorist attacks is zero ever but that's an impossible ask, just like it's impossible to stamp out murder, GBH, video-game piracy or whatever else.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:51
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The DPRK posted:Can anyone explain to me at what stage we're failing to apprehend terror suspects? There is a list of 'persons of interest' numbering in the tens of thousands, who get categorised, and the actual resources are focused on the small number of people believed to be a high threat (and there have been many plots foiled in recent years). It's just a question of resources in the main. Although apparently the third attacker was stopped at the border because he was on an EU-wide watch list, but we then let him anyway, so that just sounds like a mistake. As Dame Stella Rimington said in her talk today: quote:People say to MI5 these days, "Why were you not following around all these people, who have been on your radar?"..and inevitably over time [when] there is a hideous attack, somebody will have been on the radar.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:51
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Zephro posted:There are tens of thousands of persons of interest on MI5's lists Including every left wing politician and union official worth naming.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:53
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I actually don't think it's just a question of resources. Resources help but you get diminishing returns after a while. China has a full-on programme of massive state surveillance, widespread censorship, sophisticated control of the internet and old-fashioned authoritarian repression, especially in its western provinces, and they still suffer from terrorist attacks.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:54
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The big problem with intelligence is that data collecting ability vastly exceeds data analysis ability. Security authorities get swamped with emails and phone calls and keywords and loving EVERYTHING but it needs human analysts to make it in any way relevant, and there's just too much of it.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:54
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CptAwesome posted:Are there any seats that are 3 way marginals? Bristol West was a Labour/Green/LD marginal last time, probably a Labour/Green marginal this time with a pretty solid Labour majority
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Jun 7, 2017 14:54
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Thanks for that. So how would looser human rights laws play in to that? Would it result in fewer terrorist attacks in your view? At what cost?
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Jun 7, 2017 14:55
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sassassin posted:You can't arrest/deport someone just because their mother-in-law says they're a bad egg and there's a photo of them holding a flag. With Westminster it's even harder though. There's no law against having kitchen knives in your kitchen (yet). Or having nebulous canisters. Or renting a van while Muslim. I'm not even sure attacks like that are preventable at any stage (outside of a traffic cop getting lucky 5 minutes beforehand) without taking measures that have worse effects than the risk of the attacks themselves. The only way out of that situation is to tackle the reasons why people do them in the first place.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:56
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Zephro posted:I actually don't think it's just a question of resources. Resources help but you get diminishing returns after a while. China has a full-on programme of massive state surveillance, widespread censorship, sophisticated control of the internet and old-fashioned authoritarian repression, especially in its western provinces, and they still suffer from terrorist attacks. Christ. Well it's not very politically palatable to say you can't stop terrorism is it...
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Jun 7, 2017 14:56
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MikeTheCoolOne posted:I'd be interested too but he's set to walk it here so might be better off targeting somewhere away from home. I know the more morally righteous thing is to actually go campaigning/canvassing for Labour in a nearby marginal, but is it so bad that I actually want to see one of Corbyn's stump speeches in person?
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Jun 7, 2017 14:56
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The DPRK posted:Can anyone explain to me at what stage we're failing to apprehend terror suspects? Because of scary yet weak human rights activists harbouring humanist ideals that insidiously weaken the psychic membrane of britane, the police have been spontaneously falling over on their way to the terrorists houses like non Duracell bunnies. We must enact the blood ritual of Shub-niggath to give them more Powers
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Jun 7, 2017 14:57
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The DPRK posted:Christ. It is, however, the truth. That's kind of the point of terrorism.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:57
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CptAwesome posted:Are there any seats that are 3 way marginals? Thurrock is a three way between the conservatives, labour and UKIP with less than a 1000 votes between them. Belfast South too between SDLP/DUP/Alliance (maybe SF)
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Jun 7, 2017 14:58
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The DPRK posted:Christ. Sadly it's not even politically palatable to say you should address the root causes of it either.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:58
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Baron Corbyn posted:both the YouGov MRP and BritainElects NowCast show him losing his seat, so we should have that to look forward to, hopefully. Catching up on the thread, this has given me hope. Living in Hallam, if Cleggers loses to Lab, he'll be the first MP to ever lose to a Lab candidate in the constituency. It's always been Blue or Yellow around here. I'm sure the awful posh fucks up the hill will complain that the riff raff "in the towers" are to blame. I'm hoping to see a 1997 Portillo moment for him now.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:59
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I'm trying to check this with friends who work in the civil service but it doesn't seem to have filtered down to the rank and file
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Jun 7, 2017 15:06
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MikeCrotch posted:I am going to be mainlining so much coffee to stay up till 4:30 and see if Nick Clegg has been loving shitcanned This, but with a bottle of bourbon that was 45%ABV & on sale for £20 in Tesco.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:09
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Please don't hurt yourselves over the results of this election. The NHS may not be there to help afterwards.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:10
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Yougov's June 7th update: https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/872432058773233664  e: This would be -28 CON and +37 LAB compared to 2015
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Jun 7, 2017 15:10
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Does anyone else think it's wrong that one of the major parties (obviously supported by the mods) is on the top and the other below it? It's clearly rigged. I had to go through a dozen third party spoiler votes just to find Pissflaps, which is "conveniently" at the very bottom. I wonder how many people were turned off by it, or couldn't find it on the polls? It's all rigged. Also I don't think Pissflaps is even running a candidate in my constituency. I might have to put an X for 'no' in the Labour box just as a 'gently caress you' to the Corbyknights. Owen Smith would have won.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:11
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The DPRK posted:Well it's not very politically palatable to say you can't stop terrorism is it...
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Jun 7, 2017 15:11
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For those asking if Corbyn will be in Islington today, in an interview with BBC Breakfast he said he was doing heading down the country doing rallies until he got to his own constituency at 9pm tonight. No idea where it would be or anything, but I can't see him not wanting to finish with an easy win.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:12
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TheRat posted:Yougov's June 7th update: ITS SO loving UNFAIR ITS LIKE TORIES HAVE A MAGIC INVINCIBILITY SHIELD OF FUCKHEADS LIKE WHY CANT LABOUR EVER CATCH A loving BREAK gently caress.
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