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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

Who's he?

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

kustomkarkommando posted:

Guys who joined up in their 20s in the early 80s are pushing into their 50s so still a decade or so, but there is a younger generation of cunts who've been taken under their wing

They pass the time shooting drug dealers in the knees and extorting money from teenage drug addicts and ordering their parents to bring them to dark alleys to get crippled

Real nice guys

Im from a Catholic family, from the heartland of IRA territory in west NI.
Maybe its just my area but the last batch of the 80s guys these days to be more docile than what you say.
It's their kids and the younger generation that are the insane new IRA.
The new IRA are selling the drugs around here, they may have kicked out dealers in the 90s under the name of DAAD, but when there was a gap the IRA and UVF took over selling.

Like I know two insane poo poo heads, millennials, sons of the old IRA guard, who went to Dublin and tried to extort money from construction sites a few years back.
When the Dubliners told them to gently caress off, they tried to steal diggers and tractors. Turns out the local Dublin gangs were extorting them first, so these two fuckwits nearly started a gang north/south feud.
Rumor is that one can never goto Dublin again else will be killed.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Were Ukip trying to help the tories by standing down? lol

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


Tony Blair posted:

Let me make my position clear: I wouldn’t want to win on an old-fashioned leftist platform. Even if I thought it was the route to victory, I wouldn’t take it.

Even if you did it wouldn’t be right because it wouldn’t take the country forward, it would take it backwards. That’s why it’s not the right thing to do.

lol at Blair voting for Corbyn-led Labour anyway.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Tsaedje posted:

Blair's government did a lot of good, but it came at the price of their souls, and a Labour party with no soul quickly becomes disaffected.

Did a lot of good at the start/

When they introduced PFCs, thats when they turned Sith.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Kurtofan posted:

Were Ukip trying to help the tories by standing down? lol

They did in a bunch of seats and marginals, but their vote collapsed in a lot of others which was expected and anticipated to help the Tories. Freeman is an interesting case as his seat was one of the few where UKIP seemed to have a resurgence, they had a swing of about 13%.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Have there been any proceedings or updates since noon? I would like to think that Corbyn is rushing towards Westminster trying to shoe in his queen's speech.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

hit button posted:

lol at Blair voting for Corbyn-led Labour anyway.

Principle-challenged man abandons principles

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
So in the history of political self owns where does this rank?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

neck clogg, i think

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Kurtofan posted:

Were Ukip trying to help the tories by standing down? lol

Nah but they lost their sugar daddy and couldn't afford to stand everywhere.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Skinty McEdger posted:

They did in a bunch of seats and marginals, but their vote collapsed in a lot of others which was expected and anticipated to help the Tories. Freeman is an interesting case as his seat was one of the few where UKIP seemed to have a resurgence, they had a swing of about 13%.

interesting, any reason why?

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

happyhippy posted:

Did a lot of good at the start/

When they introduced PFCs, thats when they turned Sith.

Oh totally, and chasing voters' opinions rather than coming up with innovative policies of their own ended up being a dead end as soon as the Tories followed suit and were better at being the face of neoliberal bastardry

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



axeil posted:

I just wanted to say that this is an excellent post and really helped out. Shared it with some friends in the States who are curious about what happens now in the UK. Thanks!

I'm grateful to have helped! It's really good to have people say the post helped them understand things or the like!

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

ultrabindu posted:

So in the history of political self owns where does this rank?

I can't really think of a corncobbing of this scale, she had 3 more years of a majority government and decided to piss it away because POLLS.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Raeg posted:

I can't really think of a corncobbing of this scale, she had 3 more years of a majority government and decided to piss it away because POLLS.

Hillary 2016.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

ultrabindu posted:

So in the history of political self owns where does this rank?

Well, the last self-own in british politics this big was *consults calendar* less than a year ago when Cameron lost the referendum.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


What's Crosby's record now?

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

happyhippy posted:

Im from a Catholic family, from the heartland of IRA territory in west NI.
Maybe its just my area but the last batch of the 80s guys these days to be more docile than what you say.
It's their kids and the younger generation that are the insane new IRA.
The new IRA are selling the drugs around here, they may have kicked out dealers in the 90s under the name of DAAD, but when there was a gap the IRA and UVF took over selling.

Like I know two insane poo poo heads, millennials, sons of the old IRA guard, who went to Dublin and tried to extort money from construction sites a few years back.
When the Dubliners told them to gently caress off, they tried to steal diggers and tractors. Turns out the local Dublin gangs were extorting them first, so these two fuckwits nearly started a gang north/south feud.
Rumor is that one can never goto Dublin again else will be killed.

I'm from Derry so Gary Donnelly territory. Most of the RAAD guys are from early 80s era if not younger. 32CSM has a couple of weird 20 something's doing stuff but slightly pot bellied 40-50 odds are our dissident stable

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

I mean Hillary ran a terrible campaign sure, but it wasn't like she was President for one year, decided she needed more votes and then hosed it up.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
This result is the best I could have hoped for, and the fact you boys and gals are debating it makes it even better.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Are you ready to play the game of thrones?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/09/theresa-may-fighting-stay-downing-st-senior-tories-ponder-leadership/

It has begun.

Sarah Bellum
Oct 21, 2008

kustomkarkommando posted:

I'm from Derry so Gary Donnelly territory. Most of the RAAD guys are from early 80s era if not younger. 32CSM has a couple of weird 20 something's doing stuff but slightly pot bellied 40-50 odds are our dissident stable

I'm from west Belfast, all the dissies I knew ended up super-extra deadified long ago: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/cash-and-gun-row-led-to-murders-28399951.html

All the non-dissie republicans I know are absolutely raking it in from the peace process and far too pot bellied and comfortable to return to violence.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Thanks Ants posted:

What's Crosby's record now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj4wcuo9Mgo

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Raeg posted:

I can't really think of a corncobbing of this scale, she had 3 more years of a majority government and decided to piss it away because POLLS.

Let me help you:

Calling for a vote on leaving the European Union to boost your popularity. That is a bigger self-own. That is, in fact, the biggest self own in political history. And I know someone just brought it up but I feel like it should never be forgotten how phenomenally stupid that was.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Mulva posted:

Let me help you:

Calling for a vote on leaving the European Union to boost your popularity. That is a bigger self-own. That is, in fact, the biggest self own in political history.

My brain refuses to parse Brexit but yes, Tories are truly great at yearly self owns. Can't wait to see what 2018 brings.

Sarah Bellum
Oct 21, 2008

I can't see BoJo winning it, surely even the Cons have too much dignity to put him in front of the EU.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Sarah Bellum posted:

I can't see BoJo winning it, surely even the Cons have too much dignity to put him in front of the EU.

Rudd's an interesting one because I'm not sure Tories would want to risk their leader losing their seat during an election.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


The irony of the conservaties arguing we can't keep having referendums or votes about brexit because we already had one, and then internally deciding they're just gonna keep picking a new leader and running a new general election till they find one that fits. the hilarity.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



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OP has been updated with new developments and

Mister Adequate posted:

Norlin Airlann

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Raeg posted:

Rudd's an interesting one because I'm not sure Tories would want to risk their leader losing their seat during an election.

Crabb is one who could boost them but is a risk for similar reasons. Preseli Pembrokeshire was very close despite basically being an exclave for the worst kinds of English.

Sarah Bellum
Oct 21, 2008
A young Alliance member and friend of mine posted this delicious rant:

quote:

Where were all you English people when the DUP were vetoing marriage equality and keeping free, safe, legal abortion access banned and denying climate change and insulting Muslims and being apologists for xenophobia and cutting Irish language bursaries and secretly funnelling money from Saudi Arabia to buy Brexit ads in London papers and trying to get creationism taught in schools and trying to legalise religiously motivated homophobia and calling gay people abominations and trying to keep homosexuality illegal here and setting up slush funds for charities ran by active paramilitary commanders or declaring "the party comes first" amidst shady dealings with the Red Sky contractor or paying farmers half a billion to do nothing but burn fuel or trying to facilitate fracking and drilling and gold mining here or giving angry speeches after winning elections or entering into pacts along sectarian lines to reduce choice for voters for political gain or appointing a climate change denier as Environment Minister or distributing 40,000 leaflets smearing another party for political gain over a flag or wasting parliamentary time to ask the Business Secretary if they're going to regulate Ouija boards or insulting Irish speakers with an offensive "curry my yoghurt" caricaturing of their language or declaring the Pope the Anti-Christ in the European Parliament or endorsing a comment from a member of the public that we should "get the ethnics out" or publishing lowest-common denominator solutions to fighting sectarianism or previously having a leader who set up Ulster Resistance during the Troubles which ran guns to the UVF or made mooing noises at the Northern Ireland Women's Coalition MLAs or endorsed charity events which "auctioned" women off for dates or which tries to justify the flying of loyalist paramilitary flags on lampposts yet attacks the flying of the Irish tricolour (a national flag) from a flagpole
Where were you then eh, yese are only fake haters

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Sarah Bellum posted:

A young Alliance member and friend of mine posted this delicious rant:


rear end in a top hat comedy option: tell him that you tried to talk to SF about it but they wouldn't return your calls.

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.

Mulva posted:

Let me help you:

Calling for a vote on leaving the European Union to boost your popularity. That is a bigger self-own. That is, in fact, the biggest self own in political history. And I know someone just brought it up but I feel like it should never be forgotten how phenomenally stupid that was.

yeah it's worse, but it's hard for me to consider it a self-own when actually he just parachuted out immediatly and will never ever face any consequences short of a tiny amount of personal embarassment that is easily quelled by shooting pidgeons you nickname gideon

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Sarah Bellum posted:

A young Alliance member and friend of mine posted this delicious rant:

My understanding was one of the main purposes of the GF accords was to allow Brits to completely ignore norn iron, mission accomplished?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Guavanaut posted:

OP has been updated with new developments and

looking at the first page, who did win the prediction contest in the end? do we have a result?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXabe1eBda0 "Tory MP Heidi Allen snipes Theresa May, ready to jump ship? "

"I want an entirely new conservative party"

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

The best performance in a decade while the Tories toss away a majority has gone a long way to making Corbyn look more paletable to the Blairites. Centrism was never a strict ideology, just a path to power.

Depends on the person. Blair himself is quite clearly an ideologue, and I'm far from convinced he voted Labour this time. A lot of the PLP are simply weathervanes though. Some of them are pretty talented and could probably be given shadow cabinet jobs, but none of them should be trusted and ideally they should be replaced by people with principles wherever possible.

Raeg posted:

Rudd's an interesting one because I'm not sure Tories would want to risk their leader losing their seat during an election.

Yeah, it would have been amazing if she lost but a majority of a few hundred probably disqualifies her from being leader.

TheRat posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXabe1eBda0 "Tory MP Heidi Allen snipes Theresa May, ready to jump ship? "

"I want an entirely new conservative party"

Entryist.

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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

farraday posted:

My understanding was one of the main purposes of the GF accords was to allow Brits to completely ignore norn iron, mission accomplished?

I think from the past 24 hours we can all agree that NI is much better off when the rest of the UK is only barely aware of their existence

e: except from y'know, that whole brexit thing

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