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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Angepain posted:

as an aside, I like how the addition of the gang tag makes it look like the big robot vehicle man is contemplating his imminent end by the ruthless hand of the winking jam lord. Please let me know if the big robot man pictured is one of the good big robot vehicle men or one of the bad big robot vehicle men so I know how to feel about this scenario, thank you.

the robot man in my avatar is in fact reformed robot Stalin who's been written as robot Tony Benn, so he's a good robot man who became ultimate evil robot man but is now redemption seeking bad robot man

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jabby
Oct 27, 2010


quote:

Throughout the election I have communicated with Jeremy on a number of occasions. One was pretty robust: I was cross after horrid, vicious sexism towards me from his supporters. One time was after the exit poll and was more akin to the kind of text message that you send your mate who just snogged the fittest boy at a party. The rest of the time it was with genuine advice and guidance ahead of the debates or appearances. I told him what I was hearing on the streets and what might and might not work. To this, he responds well.

This is how I think the party must go forward. We must be robust when we think we are getting stuff wrong, elated and celebratory when we are getting things right, and honest and helpful when we think we can be.

Ugh. This is what pisses me of about certain Labour MPs. Their idea of a mea culpa is saying 'I got it wrong, but I was right to speak out'.

No you weren't. You were wrong about everything. Your 'advice' about electability was terrible, your 'advice' that Jeremy should resign was anti-democratic bollocks and your constant briefings did enormous damage to the party. The idea that Jess Phillips is holding herself up as an example of how the party should go forwards is so arrogant it's practically unbelievable.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling




A surprisingly worthy follow-up to Pounded by the Pound: Turned Gay by the Socioeconomic Implications of Brexit.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Purge all your centrists.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

kustomkarkommando posted:

The DUP/Tory deal will survive until July 13th when everyone remembers every DUP MP is an orangeman

There is usually one incident per year, some band plays the wrong tune, or some counter protest by the nationalists.
Its going to be interesting to see if the farmers on both sides can restrain themselves this year.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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So, and this is pure hypothetical, can the Conservatives just not propose any legislation over the next 5 years?

Like, if they are scared of not getting it through government, why not just put through small bills from various local causes that don't cause much of a fuss?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

For once even I can't get myself to be pissed about the interchangeable use of "UK" and "England" here, I can't stay mad at Chuck Tingle

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Josef bugman posted:

So, and this is pure hypothetical, can the Conservatives just not propose any legislation over the next 5 years?

Like, if they are scared of not getting it through government, why not just put through small bills from various local causes that don't cause much of a fuss?

Sort of have to do a Brexit.

blues thief
Apr 1, 2013

jBrereton posted:

Who cares what the BBC says, this is the DUP's own official line

https://twitter.com/duponline/status/873677017383915520

https://twitter.com/skydavidblevins/status/873682026116907013

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Josef bugman posted:

So, and this is pure hypothetical, can the Conservatives just not propose any legislation over the next 5 years?

Like, if they are scared of not getting it through government, why not just put through small bills from various local causes that don't cause much of a fuss?

Brexit



oops!

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


Josef bugman posted:

So, and this is pure hypothetical, can the Conservatives just not propose any legislation over the next 5 years?

Like, if they are scared of not getting it through government, why not just put through small bills from various local causes that don't cause much of a fuss?

The idea of a government remaining motionless for four years so as not to attract predators is the most Theresa May thing ever.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Angepain posted:

For once even I can't get myself to be pissed about the interchangeable use of "UK" and "England" here, I can't stay mad at Chuck Tingle

To be fair only England is being haunted in the rear end, not the entire UK. It's still grammatically correct.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I mean other than Brexit (which is going to be tricky anyway).

Like would they be able to do nothing for 4 years?

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
This is bad for Jeremy Corbyn's enemies :black101:

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Sort of have to do a Brexit.

Just don't answer the phone whenever Europe called, it worked for the election

well

sort of worked

Mulva posted:

To be fair only England is being haunted in the rear end, not the entire UK. It's still grammatically correct.

I dispute your claim that Scotland's rear end is not getting haunted just as much, although perhaps in a different way. Perhaps that can be explored in the sequel.

also, UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Sort of have to do a Brexit

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Josef bugman posted:

So, and this is pure hypothetical, can the Conservatives just not propose any legislation over the next 5 years?

Like, if they are scared of not getting it through government, why not just put through small bills from various local causes that don't cause much of a fuss?

That's basically their only chance at the moment. Do nothing contentious and try to hang on until the polls improve.

Brexit looms however. MPs get frustrated when they clearly aren't achieving anything. People will ask what happened to the manifesto pledges. And a government that doesn't do anything will have a hard time improving it's poll rating.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
If the Conservatives can't form a coalition government, what happens? What happens, like, mechanically. Is May still PM? you guys were saying another election would be called, does that happen automatically?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Guy Goodbody posted:

If the Conservatives can't form a coalition government, what happens? What happens, like, mechanically. Is May still PM? you guys were saying another election would be called, does that happen automatically?
No, she would just be the leader of the largest party. The PM is whoever can command the support of the Commons. If that's no-one, then another election is inevitable.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Not going to happen but I would laugh my rear end off to the moon if this tops off with the orangemen starting to march a lot more often in England after this.

Guy Goodbody posted:

If the Conservatives can't form a coalition government, what happens? What happens, like, mechanically. Is May still PM? you guys were saying another election would be called, does that happen automatically?

She would form a minority government with the backing of the DUP if they can't form a coalition which would make more sense...but don't expect sense to be something the DUP & Tories are known for.

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


Guy Goodbody posted:

If the Conservatives can't form a coalition government, what happens? What happens, like, mechanically. Is May still PM? you guys were saying another election would be called, does that happen automatically?

If nobody can form a government then Brenda dissolves parliament and calls for a general election. Secretaries of state including the PM keep their jobs until a new government and cabinet is set up.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Guy Goodbody posted:

If the Conservatives can't form a coalition government, what happens? What happens, like, mechanically. Is May still PM? you guys were saying another election would be called, does that happen automatically?

Corbyn would have the opportunity to form a new government, if he failed there would be another election.

In this instance May would continue to be PM for the course of the election as there would not have been a new government formed, and if any disasters were to occur in that time we would still need a PM.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/873676671295123458

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Imagine being the EU diplomats right now.

Britain's PM pulls the trigger on a two year countdown to negotiate an agreement to avoid economic disaster, and then takes two months off to have an election, "it's essential to have a big stable majority, the negotiations can't proceed without it."
*Majority collapses*
"Oh well we'll just negotiate everything with a fragile minority government that could collapse at any time over any little thing, it's fine."

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Just for the record I think the last time Labour polled 45% was February 2013.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
So, what's the reason that labor is gaining post election popularity? Is it just an everyone loves a winner effect, or is it "holy poo poo they're pulling it off," or what?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

So, what's the reason that labor is gaining post election popularity? Is it just an everyone loves a winner effect, or is it "holy poo poo they're pulling it off," or what?

Tory party right now can best be described by the word "Omnishambles"

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

So, what's the reason that labor is gaining post election popularity? Is it just an everyone loves a winner effect, or is it "holy poo poo they're pulling it off," or what?
Some of that, and the Tories are still self-destructing even though the election is over.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/873700646276431872

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Even putting aside how generally good for democracy they are, parliamentary systems are so loving entertaining. :allears: I dig all the historical feuds too, it's pretty interesting.

BTW, isn't Boris Johnson more of a W Bush figure, in that he might make boneheaded, bad, hated decisions and have odious politics but he's personally smart and well educated but pretends to be stupid for his rube base?

What if the Troubles start up again? I mean, jesus loving hell...

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Meanwhile in the 'remain' timeline, David Cameron continues to eradicate public services for another three years while Blairites split off into an SDPalike.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Lightning Lord posted:

BTW, isn't Boris Johnson more of a W Bush figure, in that he might make boneheaded, bad, hated decisions and have odious politics but he's personally smart and well educated but pretends to be stupid for his rube base?
This used to be the theory, but let's just say the evidence isn't quite as strong as it was

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Lightning Lord posted:

Even putting aside how generally good for democracy they are, parliamentary systems are so loving entertaining. :allears: I dig all the historical feuds too, it's pretty interesting.

BTW, isn't Boris Johnson more of a W Bush figure, in that he might make boneheaded, bad, hated decisions and have odious politics but he's personally smart and well educated but pretends to be stupid for his rube base?

What if the Troubles start up again? I mean, jesus loving hell...

Evidence is strong that bojo is only slightly less subnormal than he looks. Very, very slightly.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Zephro posted:

This used to be the theory, but let's just say the evidence isn't quite as strong as it was

Apparently during his time as Mayor of London he used a lot of clever and subtle fuckery to ruin TfL in order to accelerate privatisation.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Who the hell is Michael Gove and why does everyone hate him more than BoJo?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

VitalSigns posted:

"Oh well we'll just negotiate everything with a fragile minority government that could collapse at any time over any little thing, it's fine."


"Well, that was a wonderful election, good time was had by all, time to start the talks."
"Yes we really should be- Good lord, what is happening in your country?"
"...aurora borealis?"

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Meanwhile in irredeemable fuckhead territory, Mandelson his written for the Mail on Sunday urging Labour MPs to back Theresa May if she offers to soften Brexit.

Daily Mail posted:

Writing in today’s Mail on Sunday, he says: ‘I believe that if [Theresa May] shows flexibility, most of the country will back her. It would be churlish for people like me and other Remainers not to give her political backing.’

He adds pointedly: ‘There are Labour MPs who want to work in the national interest and will support her if she does the right thing for the country.’

Seems like he got over his sudden admiration for Corbyn quickly.

For clarity, this is a former Labour cabinet minister and current Labour Lord calling on Labour MPs to prop up a loving Tory minority government if it offers them some concessions on Brexit. Because after all it would be churlish not to support the disabled-murdering cunts.

jabby fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jun 11, 2017

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Lightning Lord posted:

BTW, isn't Boris Johnson more of a W Bush figure, in that he might make boneheaded, bad, hated decisions and have odious politics but he's personally smart and well educated but pretends to be stupid for his rube base?

Almost literally, insomuch as Boris Johnson is a highly educated and rich American politician that pretends to be more folksy and simple than he really is in order to gain popularity and enact terrible legislation for undead soul stealing conservative motherfuckers.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Zenithe posted:

Who the hell is Michael Gove and why does everyone hate him more than BoJo?

former education guy who royally assfucked schools then awkwardly supported the leave campaign and rather infamously said "people have had enough of experts"

Basically an incompetent blowhard who kept trying to jockey for the big time but is too incompetent to stick it but lol maybe that's not a requirement at this stage.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Ian Hislop posted:

Boris Johnson, people always ask me the same question, they say, 'Is Boris a very very clever man pretending to be an idiot?' And I always say, 'No.'

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Zenithe posted:

Who the hell is Michael Gove and why does everyone hate him more than BoJo?

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