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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

OwlFancier posted:

Is Marxist hell where the pitchforks are owned and operated by the damned?

Maybe it's like in the Sandman where people were in Hell because they felt they deserved it?

feedmegin posted:

This bit is pretty new, though (exceptions: Liberal (Democrats), Northern Ireland). Like, when I was first eligible to vote back in the 90s, Plaid and the SNP were not really a thing and the Lib Dems were the comedy joke never going to be in power option. It was still pretty much Tories vs Labour.

Right but the DUP would just be some tiny, easily ignored regional wing of the GOP in America. I think these special interest/regional parties having some viability, voice and weight instead of just two juggernauts smashing up against each other nonstop is more democratic? I dunno.

EDIT: By that I mean having to listen to and pay attention to these parties with regional concerns is more democratic than a system where they could just be steamrolled all the time. DUP are poo poo though

Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Jun 11, 2017

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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Bardeh posted:

No idea who she was - she sneeringly said that the Tories needed to post stuff on Instagram to win the election, that 'it's no wonder young people will vote for you if you bribe them with £27000 each', and that there needs to be a new election 'and if Corbyn wins that then I guess we accept we're a left of centre country and I can safely leave and live somewhere else.'

those sure do sound like some delicious salty tears right there

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


Poor people get bribes, the rich get incentives.

Roll on the corbyn landslide.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



This Tory MP on Sunday Politics is obsessed with every other party having done badly. Hilarious.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Now that it looks like the Blairites have come grovelling back is Corbyn going to start sticking some in his shadow cabinet? After her 'performance' I can see Abbott being replaced. I worry that this is a bit of a flash in the pan for Labour and once the tories get a half decent leader and be able to run a much better campaign they'll be able to build on their 50-odd seat lead in the next election. I'd hope that a few people that are seen as more centrist can pull in some voters while we still get full Corbynism now.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Bardeh posted:

No idea who she was - she sneeringly said that the Tories needed to post stuff on Instagram to win the election, that 'it's no wonder young people will vote for you if you bribe them with £27000 each', and that there needs to be a new election 'and if Corbyn wins that then I guess we accept we're a left of centre country and I can safely leave and live somewhere else.'

Ah yes the old one-two punch of changing hearts and minds

1) Call them shits to make them not like you and wish you would gently caress off
2) Promise to gently caress off if they continue disagreeing with you

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Angepain posted:

Ah yes the old one-two punch of changing hearts and minds

1) Call them shits to make them not like you and wish you would gently caress off
2) Promise to gently caress off if they continue disagreeing with you

To which the correct answer is always 'please do!'

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Is Marxist hell where the pitchforks are owned and operated by the damned?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his crimes." - Marx 3:16

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Bardeh posted:

No idea who she was - she sneeringly said that the Tories needed to post stuff on Instagram to win the election, that 'it's no wonder young people will vote for you if you bribe them with £27000 each', and that there needs to be a new election 'and if Corbyn wins that then I guess we accept we're a left of centre country and I can safely leave and live somewhere else.'

Is it Hartley-Brewer in disguise?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

bessantj posted:

Now that it looks like the Blairites have come grovelling back is Corbyn going to start sticking some in his shadow cabinet? After her 'performance' I can see Abbott being replaced. I worry that this is a bit of a flash in the pan for Labour and once the tories get a half decent leader and be able to run a much better campaign they'll be able to build on their 50-odd seat lead in the next election. I'd hope that a few people that are seen as more centrist can pull in some voters while we still get full Corbynism now.

Abbott is not going to remain Shadow Home Sec now Corbyn has, y'know, actual options rather than it being him and like two of his mates trying to run the whole Opposition. That's fine. I hope we'll actually unite as a party and get poo poo done because I do think most of the Blairites generally did have concerns that no-one was going to vote for Jam Socialism and have been proved incredibly loving wrong (go not-olds!), but we shall see.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Bardeh posted:

No idea who she was - she sneeringly said that the Tories needed to post stuff on Instagram to win the election, that 'it's no wonder young people will vote for you if you bribe them with £27000 each', and that there needs to be a new election 'and if Corbyn wins that then I guess we accept we're a left of centre country and I can safely leave and live somewhere else.'

Don't young people realise their role is to constantly be shat on and have their live chances and opportunities for happiness be slowly shrivelled away?

£70 billion pounds off taxes for the rich, apparently not a bribe.
£200,000 off the price of a house with right to buy, apparently not a bribe.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


"No but you see taking less tax isn't a bribe because it was never the governments property to take in the first place, furthermore *farrrrt*"

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Corbyn's plan he outlined on Marr seems pretty good. Put down an amendment to the Queen's speech with a bunch of stuff from the Labour manifesto that the DUP, some Tories and the public will find attractive, like keeping the winter fuel allowance, guaranteeing the rights of EU nationals, etc. etc. Hugely embarrassing for the government to lose, will irritate the public even more if they win.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

feedmegin posted:

Abbott is not going to remain Shadow Home Sec now Corbyn has, y'know, actual options rather than it being him and like two of his mates trying to run the whole Opposition. That's fine. I hope we'll actually unite as a party and get poo poo done because I do think most of the Blairites generally did have concerns that no-one was going to vote for Jam Socialism and have been proved incredibly loving wrong (go not-olds!), but we shall see.

What's Abbott good at? What position should she be filling?

Also must be nice to have an opposition party that actually has some power.

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.


"How dare you make me hit you!"
Christ, young tories are the worst.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/873859489727950848

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

jabby posted:

Corbyn's plan he outlined on Marr seems pretty good. Put down an amendment to the Queen's speech with a bunch of stuff from the Labour manifesto that the DUP, some Tories and the public will find attractive, like keeping the winter fuel allowance, guaranteeing the rights of EU nationals, etc. etc. Hugely embarrassing for the government to lose, will irritate the public even more if they win.

That's a better idea than fighting to be king of the shitheap at the moment so yeah, good plan.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism




:smug:

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Lunar Suite posted:



"How dare you make me hit you!"
Christ, young tories are the worst.

Someone find these two girls and give them medals imo

Failing that shadow cabinet positions

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Angepain posted:

Someone find these two girls and give them medals imo

Failing that shadow cabinet positions

they might well have only existed in the confines of his mind, and that's not a fair place to wander

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
will sex robots end people turning into nazis?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

It might actually be time to dust off the Photoshop and whip up a :corbynsmug: emote.

UrbicaMortis posted:

This is obviously anecdotal but I'm 25 and work in a really young company (outside of senior management, average age is probably like 26/27). On friday everyone was really jubilant and felt... powerful isn't quite the right word but it's in the ballpark. Most people see this result as a victory and winning tends to energise people. Not to mention the DUP's social conservatism is going to piss off almost every young person in the uk.
I apparently didn't save it but somebody posted a plot earlier of voting tendencies by age group going back to the 90s... the divide now is much more stark than before, but it's not just people younger than 30 or so overwhelmingly voting Labour, it's people younger than 50 or so. I'm really looking forward to seeing that play out over the next 5–10 years.

Edit:

dispatch_async posted:



Maybe systematically loving over younger people was a bad idea?

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Lightning Lord posted:

What's Abbott good at? What position should she be filling?

Also must be nice to have an opposition party that actually has some power.

Abbott has been in select committees or shadow cabinet positions all over the place with the exception of Treasury or environment/rural issues, potentially she could be anywhere. I think the issue is that she gives poor interviews and is hated by the press visibly more than other lefties so she's a favourite target no matter what she does, rather than her being poor at a position

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

TACD posted:

It might actually be time to dust off the Photoshop and whip up a :corbynsmug: emote.
I apparently didn't save it but somebody posted a plot earlier of voting tendencies by age group going back to the 90s... the divide now is much more stark than before, but it's not just people younger than 30 or so overwhelmingly voting Labour, it's people younger than 50 or so. I'm really looking forward to seeing that play out over the next 5–10 years.

Labour were ahead with every group under 55, which must terrify the Tories.

Also apparently Corbyn has made publicly endorsing the manifesto, including the commitments to nationalisation, a requirement to join the shadow cabinet. Meaning anyone who wants to have a shot at being a real life government minister when Labour gets into power has to get on board the socialism train. Glorious.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Department of work and pensions? Won't have to do much press and it fits in with her whole treating people equally thing.

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



jabby posted:

Labour were ahead with every group under 55, which must terrify the Tories.

Also apparently Corbyn has made publicly endorsing the manifesto, including the commitments to nationalisation, a requirement to join the shadow cabinet. Meaning anyone who wants to have a shot at being a real life government minister when Labour gets into power has to get on board the socialism train. Glorious.

Yesssssssssssssss! Brilliant move!

The Insect Court
Nov 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Chucat posted:

Morning Star might be your best bet.

He did say he didn't want Trotskyist but I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean he wanted Stalinist instead.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jose posted:

will sex robots end people turning into nazis?
This sounds like a Sunday Sport headline.

Does Betteridge's law apply to Sunday Sport headlines?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

jabby posted:

Labour were ahead with every group under 55, which must terrify the Tories.

Also apparently Corbyn has made publicly endorsing the manifesto, including the commitments to nationalisation, a requirement to join the shadow cabinet. Meaning anyone who wants to have a shot at being a real life government minister when Labour gets into power has to get on board the socialism train. Glorious.

:golfclap:

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



jabby posted:

Labour were ahead with every group under 55, which must terrify the Tories.

Also apparently Corbyn has made publicly endorsing the manifesto, including the commitments to nationalisation, a requirement to join the shadow cabinet. Meaning anyone who wants to have a shot at being a real life government minister when Labour gets into power has to get on board the socialism train. Glorious.

This is genius.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Acaila posted:

Yesssssssssssssss! Brilliant move!

Yeah that's amazing. The only reason anyone could refuse to do that is to pretty much admit they don't share popular Labour values and so shouldn't be in the cabinet/Labour at all, while setting a hard line on what sorts of policies they would come out with in future. While not appearing putative or threatening at all.

Depending on what happens at conference I think Jeremy has won.

Vvvv lol that's still getting fresh replies today!

namesake fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Jun 11, 2017

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Dawww

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyco...n-party-7783361

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Looks like corbyn is good at politics after all

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

It is a good move and hopefully this'll work out better than the last shadow unity cabinet because of it.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
What a loving boss.

Regarding Diane Abbott, I'm in favour of rehabilitating her. She's a veteran MP, her constituency loving loves her (this cannot be overstated, she got a bigger majority than Jeremy Corbyn for fucks sake) and she's the first female black MP with the torrents of racist mysogynist abuse that goes along with that, but despite that has held her seat for thirty years straight. This is not someone who cannot do politics.

Those interviews were godawful, but I would have thought with some intensive coaching that's an issue she can overcome.

Gort fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Jun 11, 2017

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
https://twitter.com/johnb78/status/873840688118472704

woudn't that giving farage a brexit role and peerage relaunch ukip anyway

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Pretty much sums it up via the medium of ranting and swearing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsGVghRBdKI

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

It shouldn't really have been that unexpected, in retrospect: it's just that since austerity began the south and east has slowly started being treated like the North has been for decades. People down here have been shaken out of their comfort zones, looked around, and gone "Well, maybe the Tories are poo poo after all? "

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Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/873860740213600256

:fuckoff:

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