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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wouldn't this actually be bad for Labour? It removes 29 seats from any likely 'Progressive Pact' and only 23 from a tory-dup coalition? Labour lose a (very slightly) greater proportion of their seats than the conservatives as well.
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Hopefully Lizzy will tell the Tories to get stuffed for making her miss Royal Ascot.
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ronya posted:John Major around 1993-1995 - despite being able to comfortably see off individual Tory challengers he could not command the support to purge dissenters from his cabinet, thus perpetuating a cycle of strategic leaks and weekly scandal I have found it kind of strange how positive the BBC and certain other parts of the MSM have been towards Labour after the election. Everything seems to be focused on May's collapse. It's s hell of a sea change and I'm not certain where it's coming from given the previously widespread ideological opposition. Corbyn's looking more like a PM in waiting every day. If this trend keeps going I think it's probably inevitable he ends up in number 10 within the next few months or years. Is this just a case of people seeing the writing on the wall and trying to build up brownie points? E: oh wait nevermind https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/10/i-was-wrong-about-jeremy-corbyn-still-doubt-him
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Jun 12, 2017 13:36
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wouldn't this actually be bad for Labour? It removes 29 seats from any likely 'Progressive Pact' and only 23 from a tory-dup coalition?
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feedmegin posted:A million quid isn't much for a house in central London. Don't worry, no fears that our Corbs is some banana republic kleptocrat just yet! who moved Finsbury park to central London? that's going to gently caress the tube map
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Jun 12, 2017 13:38
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So presumably DUP will try to torpedo that poo poo to stop SF getting 9 seats to their 7?
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Jun 12, 2017 13:39
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Um Surely with SF not taking their seats they DO have a majority in this scenario E: beaten
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Guavanaut posted:Corbyn powers up Constitution Hill on his bike, speech in hand, but halfway up is passed by Tim Farron in a Mini Cooper and Arlene Foster on horseback. Nicola Sturgeon enters the fray in a yellow Argyll Turbo. It's neck and neck between Sturgeon and Farron, but Dick Faragely and his dog Nuttley have oiled the track. Disaster. Who will deliver a speech now? Suddenly, a balloon shaped like a giant rubber duck descends from the clouds above the palace. Hahaha holy poo poo.
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That's bad reporting. 298 is a functioning Tory majority unless the Political IRA take up their seats. E: Where did 14 bastards and a new page come from?
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ThomasPaine posted:I have found it kind of strange how positive the BBC and certain other parts of the MSM have been towards Labour after the election. Everything seems to be focused on May's collapse. It's s hell of a sea change and I'm not certain where it's coming from given the previously widespread ideological opposition. Corbyn's looking more like a PM in waiting every day. If this trend keeps going I think it's probably inevitable he ends up in number 10 within the next few months or years. Is this just a case of people seeing the writing on the wall and trying to build up brownie points? Never use Nick Cohen as an example of anything but his own snivelling gormlessness
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ThomasPaine posted:
It's Nick Cohen, the only thing he has faith in is his erection over dead Muslims.
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:Hopefully Lizzy will tell the Tories to get stuffed for making her miss Royal Ascot. I wonder if it'll affect people who like the Queen, they're really been screwing her round recently what with making her invite Trump over, then getting her to cancel things to open Parliament then cancelling it a week before.
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ThomasPaine posted:I have found it kind of strange how positive the BBC and certain other parts of the MSM have been towards Labour after the election. Everything seems to be focused on May's collapse. It's s hell of a sea change and I'm not certain where it's coming from given the previously widespread ideological opposition. Corbyn's looking more like a PM in waiting every day. If this trend keeps going I think it's probably inevitable he ends up in number 10 within the next few months or years. Is this just a case of people seeing the writing on the wall and trying to build up brownie points? Because political commentators have to consider viewership moreso than having any kind of principles or, heavens forbid, actually attempting to relay the truth. If they knew this'd happen, their writing would likely express doubt about May during the course of the campaign. But they didn't, so they kept piling on the poo poo on Corbyn and now pretend like they never did or (in the rarer cases, if they dug their pit too deep) need to offer amendments like the one you linked. Ultimately, tho, they'll write whatever gets them the ratings. It's also why they perpetually drift out of touch until someone kicks them in the arse, like Corbyn just did. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 13:46
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freebooter posted:I was about to say this is loving stupid, but actually, anything which pushes pople towards realising that parliament is a forum for legislative debate and you don't immediately need a Big Strong Leader as though we're on the Mongol khanates is probably a good thing That's actually not as stupid as you might think, if you ever go to register a death they give you special paper and a special ink fountain pen to sign it with, because it's designed to last. It goes into an archive and it's good for future archivists to have it in as good quality as possible.
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Jedit posted:That's bad reporting. 298 is a functioning Tory majority unless the Political IRA take up their seats. Being fair electoral calculus also vastly overestimates the Tory seats even with the accurate popular votes from the election result, so take their values with a pinch of salt.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:49
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ThomasPaine posted:I have found it kind of strange how positive the BBC and certain other parts of the MSM have been towards Labour after the election. Everything seems to be focused on May's collapse. It's s hell of a sea change and I'm not certain where it's coming from given the previously widespread ideological opposition. Corbyn's looking more like a PM in waiting every day. If this trend keeps going I think it's probably inevitable he ends up in number 10 within the next few months or years. Is this just a case of people seeing the writing on the wall and trying to build up brownie points? Specifically for the BBC, ever since Iraq and Gilligan they've known that criticising/insufficiently backing the government = coincidental budget cuts. Now that there's no government, though... E: when the jam man forms a government expect them to crawl to him
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Jun 12, 2017 13:50
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Maybe in 1605 or whatever but in 2017 I'm pretty sure government proceedings are going to be duplicated in enough places they'll never die
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ThomasPaine posted:I have found it kind of strange how positive the BBC and certain other parts of the MSM have been towards Labour after the election. Everything seems to be focused on May's collapse. It's s hell of a sea change and I'm not certain where it's coming from given the previously widespread ideological opposition. Corbyn's looking more like a PM in waiting every day. If this trend keeps going I think it's probably inevitable he ends up in number 10 within the next few months or years. Is this just a case of people seeing the writing on the wall and trying to build up brownie points? the media likes a narrative, it's why messaging control works
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freebooter posted:Maybe in 1605 or whatever but in 2017 I'm pretty sure government proceedings are going to be duplicated in enough places they'll never die *shrug* Record keepers are nothing if not old fashioned.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:52
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Just realised we're on the weed page.
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Up until literally 10 minutes ago I thought Ireland was run by a woman named Edna Kenny.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:53
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Jedit posted:That's bad reporting. 298 is a functioning Tory majority unless the Political IRA take up their seats. If the DUP can get the Tories to scrap the planned changes as a condition for support that's a problem though. Not to mention that it's been long expected the proposed changes would be a significant blow to Labour and boon to the Tories which seems not to be the case here.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:54
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communism bitch posted:I dunno if it's clear or obvious to everybody, but the reason animal skin parchments survived so long as a writing medium is that they are super loving tough. Can we not get this one drawn up on a napkin or something so historians can't tell how embarrassingly bad May's will inevitably be?
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Tesseraction posted:Just realised we're on the weed page. Thats still a thing?
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CyberPingu posted:Thats still a thing? Not really but I'm on a natural high this week.
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nopantsjack posted:Up until literally 10 minutes ago I thought Ireland was run by a woman named Edna Kenny. It's about to be ruled by a gay man of.. I think it's Indian descent. The sort of idiot liberals in love with Macron and identity politics uber alles are very excited. What are the odds that the reduction in MPs gets shelved before too long? Can't be many turkeys willing to vote for Christmas. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 13:58
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He is indeed of Indian descent, and sadly is politically about the opposite of Portuguese PM Antonio Costa. Really letting the team down tbh.
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forkboy84 posted:It's about to be ruled by a gay man of.. I think it's Indian descent. The sort of idiot liberals in love with Macron and identity politics uber alles are very excited.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/jun/12/david-squires-on-theresa-mays-deal-with-the-dup I know, I know, grauniad, but still got a chuckle out of me.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:24
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So he's an rear end man...
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If you guys haven't seen the latest Last Week Tonight you owe it to yourself to go watch it right now.
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DeadButDelicious posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/jun/12/david-squires-on-theresa-mays-deal-with-the-dup Actually Squires is what FDotM would be if it were good, and the only redeeming feature of the graun.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:29
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Saros posted:If you guys haven't seen the latest Last Week Tonight you owe it to yourself to go watch it right now. Comically enough this is why he wasn't on The Last Leg, although he merely alluded to why he was travelling.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:30
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Saros posted:If you guys haven't seen the latest Last Week Tonight you owe it to yourself to go watch it right now. Actually flew him into New York for that.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:30
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So the boundary changes are pretty dead unless the DUP is happy to hand some of their seats to SF and a bunch of Tory MPs can be convinced to vote to destroy their own seats?
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This is going well.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:32
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VAT relief on penny whistles and lambeg drums.
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lol now idiots who slavishly believed their own "Feel On The Ground" heuristics for election prediction are now slavishly buying into the YouGov seat prediction model https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/874203202031415296 the UK political pundit class seems especially clueless
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