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There are a number of American citizens that are disenfranchised due to the territory they live in, or US Nationals (American Samoans) that exist in a weird limbo state. Needs fixing IMO.
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Spicer stream is live, who knows when the baby man himself will show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHJn_FTJiuk
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/874314491261005824 i wonder when trump is going to use the "an aid stole my phone" defense
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my bony fealty posted:Wonder if there's some correlation between 'is a poo poo president' and diet. Bill Clinton's vegan nowadays eh? bill ate like poo poo and had to knock it off and clean up his diet so he wouldn't die. donnie is still chugging along with the child's diet bill went to mcdonalds so often that even saturday night live with their finger on the slow pulse of dad humor made fun of him for it also i'll take any excuse to post al gore's dick dot jpeg 
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EwokEntourage posted:You don't argue standing in a complaint, you just assert it. They assert subject matter jurisdiction in paragraph 21. They won't be arguing standing until the government files a motion to dismiss You have to make specific assertions that, if assumed to be true, create standing. You don't just get to say "we have standing", you have to say "we have standing, because...". Then on the motion to dismiss your assertions are assumed to be true, and the other side can challenge if those create standing.
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Pellisworth posted:Spicer stream is live, who knows when the baby man himself will show He's busy watching the end of the PC Gamer E3 stream.
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Sorus posted:There are a number of American citizens that are disenfranchised due to the territory they live in, or US Nationals (American Samoans) that exist in a weird limbo state. Merge the Dakotas, allow PR statehood. Give American Pacific Territories a rep or two.
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I've always been a bit against DC statehood myself, really. Keeping it as a separate federal district but ceding all non-federal property to adjoining states is my preference, if something must be done at all.
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Xae posted:Merge the Dakotas, allow PR statehood. Give American Pacific Territories a rep or two. The Constitution specifically forbids merging states without the consent of their state legislatures: quote:New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
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mcmagic posted:I forgot about that. Agenda item number 1 when they retake power and get rid of the filibuster should be to make both PR and DC states and boom, 4 more democratic senators. DC is too small for proper statehood. Shrink it down to federal property around the mall and cede the rest back to Maryland. Frankly I think territories are a dumb vestige of colonialism. If they can't get a mandate for statehood, wipe their debts and cut them loose.
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evilweasel posted:You have to make specific assertions that, if assumed to be true, create standing. You don't just get to say "we have standing", you have to say "we have standing, because...". Then on the motion to dismiss your assertions are assumed to be true, and the other side can challenge if those create standing. Well, yea you assert it. I probably worded that bad bc phone posting. It just seemed like they were asking where the arguments are because it seemed different than the motion to dismiss that was discussed earlier (bc it's a complaint) Prolly doing a terrible job of explaining what I am trying to say
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Piell posted:Now speaking, Droopy Dog 
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Nothus posted:DC is too small for proper statehood. Shrink it down to federal property around the mall and cede the rest back to Maryland. DC has more people than Wyoming or Vermont.
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Nothus posted:DC is too small for proper statehood. Shrink it down to federal property around the mall and cede the rest back to Maryland. if Wyoming can be a state and have 2 senators, why can't DC?
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ReidRansom posted:I've always been a bit against DC statehood myself, really. Keeping it as a separate federal district but ceding all non-federal property to adjoining states is my preference, if something must be done at all. I believe that's the Lamar Alexander approach. after the senate voted to give DC representation in the house posted:Senator Lamar Alexander, chairman of the Republican conference, explained the opposition this way in a statement after the vote: “The bill passed by the Senate is unconstitutional because the District of Columbia is not a state. Our nation was formed by states, and the District is a unique city – not a state. The Constitution itself makes that distinction. The most logical alternative for giving D.C. residents full representation in Congress would be to give the District back to Maryland. The District was created from land ceded by Virginia and Maryland. Just as Arlington and part of Alexandria went back to Virginia in 1846, most of the District could again become part of Maryland, leaving only a small area around key federal buildings and monuments. I voted for an amendment that would have given DC residents full voting rights under this approach. Another option would be to keep the District as a separate entity, but allow DC residents to vote in Maryland. Congress should have passed one of these alternatives instead of passing an unconstitutional bill.” Nothus posted:DC is too small for proper statehood. Shrink it down to federal property around the mall and cede the rest back to Maryland. DC would be the 3rd least populous state if made into a state. Vermont and Wyoming have fewer people.
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There Bias Two posted:So is it totally dead now? I doubt the Supreme Court will wish to hear it. In a five to four decision today...
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Nothus posted:DC is too small for proper statehood. Shrink it down to federal property around the mall and cede the rest back to Maryland. - More votes for us - gently caress you
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Nothus posted:DC is too small for proper statehood. Shrink it down to federal property around the mall and cede the rest back to Maryland. D.C. has a bigger population than multiple states. Not letting those citizens have an equal say in their government is wrong.
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Questions? 1 billion in private money Next question 1 billion in private money Next question 1 billion in private money
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Sinteres posted:This is the kind of poo poo cult members would say. This creeps me the gently caress out.
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EwokEntourage posted:Questions? Next question Ivanka Trump
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"We are fostering private investment into work programs!" "How?" "We talked about it."
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That's a pretty common theme with conservative politicians: acting like there is no record of their positions and talking to people like they are credulous 5 year olds. Probably because they know crying hypocrite doesn't actually do anything.
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Dmitri-9 posted:That's a pretty common theme with conservative politicians: acting like there is no record of their positions and talking to people like they are credulous 5 year olds. Probably because they know crying hypocrite doesn't actually do anything. I understand that they are morally bankrupt and can do that, what I don't understand are people that continue to support them with obvious evidence of such right in their faces.
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Trabisnikof posted:I believe that's the Lamar Alexander approach. Someone should tell him that Virginia is a commonwealth. They've been voting illegally for years!
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Republican tweets from today: "Robert Mueller has no business leading this partisan witch hunt." Republican tweets from before: "just the lyrics from dragula over and over"
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socialsecurity posted:I understand that they are morally bankrupt and can do that, what I don't understand are people that continue to support them with obvious evidence of such right in their faces. Most of the people who like Newt probably aren't also reading Katy Turr on twitter.
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evilweasel posted:It's basically the same theory as existing lawsuits (that businesses harmed by Trump's business have standing) and doesn't add much beyond that it is "a state". I still think they'll all get dismissed on standing/political question grounds. I felt better about the prospects of the case before they used the press conference to hype up checks and balances and complain about congress not doing something. It seemed like they did a great job demonstrating that the case was most certainly being brought for political reasons due to a failure to get what they wanted in congress.
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Spotted this on Haaretz, more details on where Israel got its intel: https://twitter.com/nadabakos/status/874314622207234048
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mcmagic posted:So why didn't the Democrats make Puerto Rico a state when they had 60 votes in 2009? Of all the things you've said that were not that simple - holy poo poo, this is Not That Simple.
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Shifty Pony posted:I felt better about the prospects of the case before they used the press conference to hype up checks and balances and complain about congress not doing something. That doesn't really matter for the outcome of the case though
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