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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Do you get mad at single mothers whose ex-husbands "try really hard to pay child support"(aka less than ordered and late) until they got cancer? It's the same, it just sounds weird to you because it's the child and not her mother left holding the bag. The divorce agreement was unenforceable. Its not the same. Not to mention she's 29, so child support this aint.
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Barudak posted:Yeah, Dad is legally obligated then tried to shirk it and payed late for years before getting cancer and bad business got him. If he didnt have cancer people would be like that sucks old man, but also goddamn how much student loan did this child have. OctaMurk posted:The divorce agreement was unenforceable. Its not the same.
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Jun 12, 2017 22:32
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I guess I'm mad because she's having her education fully paid for and is complaining because her dad got cancer
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Jun 12, 2017 22:32
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:His mistakes, which include trying to give his daughter a debt free education, and getting cancer. 
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Lareine posted:My(23M) asexual gf(22F) of two years has ceased all forms of physical contact since I told her I'm okay with her sexuality. She also lied to me. Should I break it up? His gf is completely gay. Like totally.
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Jun 12, 2017 22:37
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:130k. Not sure if it's in the text there but it was in the BWM thread in BFC. I don't feel bad at all though--shes 29, not a child, and old enough to take care of herself. She has already completed her education, and even if dad didn't pay for the whole thing, he sure helped out a lot already. She got a way better deal than the vast majority of people, and by now she should be well-off enough to handle the loans herself while her dad dies of loving cancer.
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Jun 12, 2017 22:37
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I'm missing context here, why, at 29, isn't she fully responsible for the cost of her education?
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Jun 12, 2017 22:37
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^^^Because you don't get to ditch obligations just because they're old. Gonna side with the lady. Dad's obviously a sack of poo poo who was just lucky enough to get cancer. I hope it's lung cancer.
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Smirking_Serpent posted:I love my mother, but sometimes she's wound a bit too tight. My girlfriend [26F] and I have been dating for 7.5 years. I fully intend to marry this girl. We've lived together for 3.5 years and still going strong. This was amazing. "My mom sucks for making me dinner so she could try to talk me out of a really stupid idea. I'm 26." Also, as mentioned, my gf is just like my mom feels... like how could you be so not-self-aware as to actually write that sentence.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:I guess I'm mad because she's having her education fully paid for and is complaining because her dad got cancer
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Avenging_Mikon posted:^^^Because you don't get to ditch obligations just because they're old. But, like, she's co-signed on the loans? So they're her responsibility too? Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I get that he's been lovely and almost-deadbeat for much of her life (which might explain her lack of sympathy for his cancer). I'm just trying to understand. Were the parents well-off during the divorce? Did they / she not expect that she'd be taking on the debt at some point, like most other students who borrow money to go to college?
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Jun 12, 2017 22:46
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:She's drowning in debt because she made decisions based on the assumption that her father was a man of his word and the court system is sane. Like, I get that her post comes off as heartless, she's not a great communicator, but her grievance is legit. Do you let people just back out of promises because they're inconvenient? That's not something I take lightly and, if you have any self-respect, you shouldn't either. Ok, I get it, she never expected to be responsible for any of the debt. That's incredibly generous of her parents! Maybe she should be more thankful for their intentions. e: quote:Also, he has an RV and the monthly payment costs more than my loan. He only recently decided to sell the RV, but he doesn't like the trade-in value someone quoted him...so he's going to keep it. I missed this, gently caress em, they're both lovely people (except for the mom) But Rocks Hurt Head fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:She's drowning in debt because she made decisions based on the assumption that her father was a man of his word and the court system is sane. Like, I get that her post comes off as heartless, she's not a great communicator, but her grievance is legit. Do you let people just back out of promises because they're inconvenient? That's not something I take lightly and, if you have any self-respect, you shouldn't either. Not being able to buy a second car while owning your own home isn't drowning in debt. Just as dad agreed to pay, she agreed to pay when she co-signed. He has cancer, can't work, and she agreed by co-signing that she would pay if he couldn't. Dad isn't the only person in the equation with responsibilities.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Uh does asexuality usually involve shunning all forms of physical contact? Physical contact with other people is actually good for your mood and overall mental health. Going without (hugs, kisses, cuddles, handshakes, piledrivers, sitting next to people, etc) can take a mental toll. Actively avoiding all physical contact is a sign of something else being wrong.
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It sounds like he wasn't holding up his end of the deal when things wete going well, either. I.don't see it as strange.for her to have expected him to pay just because some if not most students have to pau their own way. If it was stipulated that he would pay, he should have paid. She is also well past time to adjust her expectations of her deadbeat dad. She needs to come to terms with the fact that her dad doesn't honor his obligations.
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Haifisch posted:Father [59] stopped paying my [29F] student loans Don't gently caress your kids
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Pvt.Scott posted:Physical contact with other people is actually good for your mood and overall mental health. Going without (hugs, kisses, cuddles, handshakes, piledrivers, sitting next to people, etc) can take a mental toll. Actively avoiding all physical contact is a sign of something else being wrong. Men invented wrestling because it's the only form of contact young boys are allowed without it being gay
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Fullhouse posted:Men invented wrestling because gay
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Pvt.Scott posted:Physical contact with other people is actually good for your mood and overall mental health. Going without (hugs, kisses, cuddles, handshakes, piledrivers, sitting next to people, etc) can take a mental toll. Actively avoiding all physical contact is a sign of something else being wrong. Oooooo piledrivers. 
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The greeks both liked wrestling and gay sex, so Im pretty sure they didnt need an excuse to get oiled up and nude with other men, what they needed was a scoring system
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:She's drowning in debt because she made decisions based on the assumption that her father was a man of his word and the court system is sane. Like, I get that her post comes off as heartless, she's not a great communicator, but her grievance is legit. Do you let people just back out of promises because they're inconvenient? That's not something I take lightly and, if you have any self-respect, you shouldn't either. So make better decisions instead if spending 130k on something like a loving English degree. And yes. It's called bankruptcy. But our stupid country made student debt immune to it as tuition prices skyrockrt.
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YEAH, she should of majored in a STEM field, been driven out due to rampant sexism, gone mad with rage, and designed a bomb that kills all men and makes #WhiteGenocide the theme of every video game. Because she loving didnt she deserves to rot in a god drat gutter. FREE MARKET BICTH
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:YEAH, she should of majored in a STEM field, been driven out due to rampant sexism, gone mad with rage, and designed a bomb that kills all men and makes #WhiteGenocide the theme of every video game. Because she loving didnt she deserves to rot in a god drat gutter. FREE MARKET BICTH There are non-STEM degrees that provode job opportunities. Anyone who co signs for 100k+ of college debt without an idea of how they will make money from that education, is a bit daft tbh.
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just smh if you think there's any reason for anyone to ever be educated besides the bare minimum required for them to make money for the capitalist system tbqh
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I've never heard of a divorce decree that forces parents to pay for student loans before, but if the parents are co-signed on the loans, then its likely as an obligation of the marital estate (like a credit card debt) rather than an obligation to the daughter. She's wrong because he doesn't owe her the money like she thinks, he's just on the hook for it like she is. He's wrong because he's bankrupting himself playing King of the Road while he shits all over their collective credit rating by shirking his obligations. They're both wrong and they both suck.
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blarzgh posted:I've never heard of a divorce decree that forces parents to pay for student loans before, but if the parents are co-signed on the loans, then its likely as an obligation of the marital estate (like a credit card debt) rather than an obligation to the daughter. Phhbbttt. Family court property divisions are more or less toothless. Worst case you get a judgment. quote:She's wrong because he doesn't owe her the money like she thinks, he's just on the hook for it like she is. She's a lovely entitled person whom at 29 should be either in IBR or PSLF and the system is lovely because it charged her that goddamn much and is nondischargeable.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:YEAH, she should of majored in a STEM field, been driven out due to rampant sexism, gone mad with rage, and designed a bomb that kills all men and makes #WhiteGenocide the theme of every video game. I remember being optimistic 
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OctaMurk posted:The divorce agreement was unenforceable. Its not the same. Not to mention she's 29, so child support this aint. yeah I straight up don't get this, my mom didn't (and couldn't) help me at all with my education, I straight up do not understand how this could even be an agreement in a divorce case, she's an adult. e: which is prolly why the courts took a look at it and went "nope this isn't a thing" ArbitraryC fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Errant Gin Monks posted:So make better decisions instead if spending 130k on something like a loving English degree. Can't you pay 'em off with credit cards then declare bankruptcy on those?
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but yeah as far as student loans go I feel like it's super counterintuitive that it's at no risk to the school so they have no reason to actually help the students succeed. Like if you invest in a private business and it goes bankrupt, but schools essentially invest in kids knowing full well that it's not gonna work out for them but it doesn't matter cause they're not on the hook.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Can't you pay 'em off with credit cards then declare bankruptcy on those? One Trick To Pay Off Tuition: Colleges Hate Him!
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Cancer Dad can get out of the loans by being disabled (y'know, cancer) if he goes through the proper steps. That's the only way to get Federal school loan poo poo forgiven, as far as I know. Putting your loans on credit cards and swinging for bankruptcy carries risk of fraud.
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I just hope the daughter can afford another car so as to avoid the terrible burden of car sharing.
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I imagine the dad also owes way more on the motor home than it's worth because they don't age well which is why turning it in or selling it isn't an option.
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In lovely American suburbia, being a 30+ minute walk from the nearest store can be a thing. It's like a well-manicured bowling green prison. That said, if they reaaaaly need a second car, they can get a cheapass used beater rather than a 2018 special edition whatever. There are also things they could do with Federal student loans, like put them on hold for a while or seek reduced payments temporarily. They're surprisingly accommodating about that stuff. The gubment just wants its money eventually, not right now. They're playing the long con.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Can't you pay 'em off with credit cards then declare bankruptcy on those? Last time I checked MyFedLoan only gives me options to pay from a bank account not from a card.
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Pvt.Scott posted:In lovely American suburbia, being a 30+ minute walk from the nearest store can be a thing. It's like a well-manicured bowling green prison. That said, if they reaaaaly need a second car, they can get a cheapass used beater rather than a 2018 special edition whatever. A 30-minute walk would put you pretty drat close in, I've lived in still definitely suburban neighborhoods where it was more like six miles. But like taking out six-figure college loan debt you have no plan to repay and then reupping for grad school, this would be one of those entirely optional life choices for a grown rear end adult where the drawbacks were clearly signposted going in Dad did the absolute bare minimum he could get away with, which was still more than the vast majority of people will ever, ever see, and the OP is an inextinguishable 29-year money fire who throws a fit about only getting a free $500 every month while their parents can still afford luxuries like 'two plane tickets, ever'; it sounds like a case of the rotten apple not falling too far from the rotten tree. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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I hope they both die of cancer. The painful kind
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Here's a really good Bridezilla one for the ages. Long but worth the read for the rare good guy husband: Me (25F), the inadvertant cause of dramas at the wedding of my boyfriend’s sister (23F) tearing his family apart. quote:Throwaway and changed names, because the usual reasons. Sorry - this got longer than I expected.
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ArbitraryC posted:but yeah as far as student loans go I feel like it's super counterintuitive that it's at no risk to the school so they have no reason to actually help the students succeed. Like if you invest in a private business and it goes bankrupt, but schools essentially invest in kids knowing full well that it's not gonna work out for them but it doesn't matter cause they're not on the hook.
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