thecluckmeme posted:

So to be clear:

UK parliament includes marginalized groups from U.K. Parliament members whose goals are

*so far right of the norm that they could threaten the entire government if included in a minority coalition

*so far outside the norm of U.K. government that they will never take their seats from an ideological standpoint

And the entire government is being held hostage because of both of these taking seats and not taking seats, respectively

Because the GB parliament couldn't reach a popular vote majority on their own

jBrereton posted:

Nothing to do with popular votes, it's a seats-based thing, but effectively yes.

Also the other side can't form a government either.

TomViolence posted:

Due to the volume of gang tag requests I think we need to start a new policy of blood in, blood out.

Zero Gravitas posted:

thecluckmeme posted:

Basically what i was getting at, just from a seats-based break between the DUP and SF

Second question:

Like I know the actual answer, but such a simple breaking of the system through minority party backing is so foreign to me

Mulva posted:

Are you asking me to kill Boris for a gang tag?

Because I'll loving do it.

thecluckmeme posted:

Basically what i was getting at, just from a seats-based break between the DUP and SF

Second question:

Like I know the actual answer, but such a simple breaking of the system through minority party backing is so foreign to me

thecluckmeme posted:

Basically what i was getting at, just from a seats-based break between the DUP and SF

Second question:

Like I know the actual answer, but such a simple breaking of the system through minority party backing is so foreign to me

quote:

In a column for the Daily Mail entitled, "Sorry chaps but women love sleep FAR more than sex", the wife of the Conservative MP, with whom she has two children, wrote in favour of the Victorian tradition of separate bedrooms. Referring to sex as "quite impractical", Vine explained how occupying the same bed is often "unsatisfactory for both parties" and compared the marital bed to "a battleground for the duvet".

thecluckmeme posted:

Basically what i was getting at, just from a seats-based break between the DUP and SF

Second question:

Like I know the actual answer, but such a simple breaking of the system through minority party backing is so foreign to me

Seaside Loafer posted:

Didnt Goves wife write some article on how they dont sleep together or gently caress?

Ahh here it is:


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/michael-goves-wife-sarah-vine-hails-separate-bedrooms-as-key-to-a-happy-marriage-a6775931.html

Akehurst posted:

Jeremy Corbyn performed far better in the glare of campaign scrutiny than anyone expected or his performance between 2015 and 2017 had suggested. If he had been this strong before the election it’s unlikely there would have been serious internal dissent in the party. If he had been this strong in the Brexit referendum, Remain would have won it. Other shadow cabinet members including but not limited to Angela Rayner, Barry Gardiner, Andrew Gwynne and Jon Ashworth also performed well in the campaign.

...

We should continue to be intolerant of any sectarian antics from Momentum that distract or detract from the task of returning Labour to power. We must fight to keep Labour as a broad church democratic socialist party with many traditions within it, but that these do not legitimately include revolutionaries and entryists who are not democratic socialists.

Seaside Loafer posted:

coffeetable posted:

no joke separate beds/bedrooms are fantastic. gives you your own space and vastly improves the quality of your sleep. good idea for any relationship

coffeetable posted:

no joke separate beds/bedrooms are fantastic. gives you your own space and vastly improves the quality of your sleep. good idea for any relationship

SpaceCommie posted:

Akehurst continues to be a poo poo.

http://labourlist.org/2017/06/luke-akehurst-corbyn-deserves-credit-now-he-must-banish-the-entryists-and-bring-back-shadow-cabinet-elections/


Except maybe his supporters who've been saying this forever ...

quote:

A cut in the number of MPs in the House of Commons could be abandoned. Legislation has already been passed to reduce the number of constituencies by 50 to 600. But it must still be voted on by MPs before October 2018. “I can’t imagine that getting through now,” said one senior Conservative.

TheRat posted:

Has there ever even been a terror attack in a rural area?

SpaceCommie posted:

Akehurst continues to be a poo poo.

http://labourlist.org/2017/06/luke-akehurst-corbyn-deserves-credit-now-he-must-banish-the-entryists-and-bring-back-shadow-cabinet-elections/


Except maybe his supporters who've been saying this forever ...

TheRat posted:

Has there ever even been a terror attack in a rural area?

Julio Cruz posted:

Breivik.

IceG posted:

Sectarian antics of momentum that actually won votes for labour...those bastards.

I am still confused as to why Sinn Fein won't take up their seats if they are so opposed to the DUP having any power in UK government. Surely that is enough?

quote:

Many arguments have been advanced in defence of abstentionism including that the oath or affirmation of allegiance to a foreign monarch and her heirs presents a difficulty and is inimical to one’s republicanism; or that one’s influence is miniscule and dwarfed by the major parties with few from the North able to demonstrate worthwhile achievements commensurate with their attendance.

These arguments, whilst valid, are not at the core of abstentionism. For example, the oath could be completely removed. Or, imagine Britain a republic. It might well be possible for some of the parties which take their seats to point to pieces of legislation that they have influenced or initiated. In the circumstances of a hung parliament it is undeniable that a tail might be able to wag the much bigger dog for a time.

Even if the oath was removed and I was an MP I would still not take my seat.

Even if Britain was a republic I would still not take my seat.

Even if I held the balance of power and could get through bits and pieces of legislation (while flattering myself as to the magnitude of my importance) I would still not take my seat.

For me, it is quite simple.

How can I object to Britain interfering in Irish affairs if I go over and interfere in theirs?

IceG posted:

Sectarian antics of momentum that actually won votes for labour...those bastards.

I am still confused as to why Sinn Fein won't take up their seats if they are so opposed to the DUP having any power in UK government. Surely that is enough?

Crane Fist posted:

How the gently caress can you afford to have more than one room for sleeping in

IceG posted:

I am still confused as to why Sinn Fein won't take up their seats if they are so opposed to the DUP having any power in UK government. Surely that is enough?

Jose posted:

who wants a stupid chart made messing around at work? Its Labour vote share on the X axis and net ingredient cost for anti depressants the first month of 2017 on the Y axis

Mugsbaloney posted:

Hey cool how did you make that?

Jose posted:

who wants a stupid chart made messing around at work? Its Labour vote share on the X axis and net ingredient cost for anti depressants the first month of 2017 on the Y axis

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Man your political aparatus is quaint and cute compared to the us. Considering someone is going out there and doing this level of post-mortem and naming names.

Here our political campaigns have billion dollar budgets, thousands of staff, and life-long career professionals running them.