UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

PostNouveau posted:

As an American, I've been really confused that this hasn't happened already. All the UKIP ministers are gone, it's a loving terrible idea to begin with, the Conservatives will be negotiating with a shaky mandate. I'm sure most of the Tory MPs know it's ruinous for the UK anyway. Why is anyone going along with it?

Because 52% of the country voted to leave.

Also, UKIP never had ministers. Thank gently caress for that.

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GaussianCopula: Jun 5, 2011; Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

PostNouveau posted:

As an American, I've been really confused that this hasn't happened already. All the UKIP ministers are gone, it's a loving terrible idea to begin with, the Conservatives will be negotiating with a shaky mandate. I'm sure most of the Tory MPs know it's ruinous for the UK anyway. Why is anyone going along with it?

Because they had a referendum on it and the majority decided they want to Brexit. The leaders of both major parties agree with that assessment, which means there is no real opposition to it and therefore no one stopping it.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:07

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

PostNouveau posted:

As an American, I've been really confused that this hasn't happened already. All the UKIP ministers are gone, it's a loving terrible idea to begin with, the Conservatives will be negotiating with a shaky mandate. I'm sure most of the Tory MPs know it's ruinous for the UK anyway. Why is anyone going along with it?

It's best not to make that announcement during peak beer garden season when the thumb people are at their strongest

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:07

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

PostNouveau posted:

As an American, I've been really confused that this hasn't happened already. All the UKIP ministers are gone, it's a loving terrible idea to begin with, the Conservatives will be negotiating with a shaky mandate. I'm sure most of the Tory MPs know it's ruinous for the UK anyway. Why is anyone going along with it?

Because it's the will of (roughly 25% of) the people!

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:07

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

GaussianCopula posted:

Because they had a referendum on it and the majority decided they want to Brexit. The leaders of both major parties agree with that assessment, which means there is no real opposition to it and therefore no one stopping it.

gently caress off nazi.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:08

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

GaussianCopula posted:

Because they had a referendum on it and the majority decided they want to Brexit. The leaders of both major parties agree with that assessment, which means there is no real opposition to it and therefore no one stopping it.

Keep your horrid poo poo in Europol and gently caress off, nazi.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:09

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

communism bitch posted:

gently caress off nazi.

You're doing god's work (poster formerly known as) Ober

EDIT - ^^^^ and you too.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:09

DesperateDan: Dec 10, 2005; Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

the graun has may as attending the scene but not talking to residents

pig fucker, drat, even thatcher would have gone and looked sad and sympathetic at the proles, not may.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:11

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

Junior G-man posted:

Also, UKIP never had ministers. Thank gently caress for that.

Oh, I thought they had some big swell of popular support that culminated in the Brexit vote. I guess the whole UKIP rise and fall happened in between elections.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:11

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

They were never popular, they just got a disproportionate amount of coverage. The referendum was a reaction to a perception of how popular they might become.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:13

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

DesperateDan posted:

the graun has may as attending the scene but not talking to residents

pig fucker, drat, even thatcher would have gone and looked sad and sympathetic at the proles, not may.

talking to actual people has never worked out well for May so why start now

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:13

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

PostNouveau posted:

Oh, I thought they had some big swell of popular support that culminated in the Brexit vote. I guess the whole UKIP rise and fall happened in between elections.

They did have a swell of popular support, but their influence was for the most part confined to directing political discourse rather than holding actual seats in Parliament. They way FPTP works out, they got a fair few votes but one seat.

EDIT forgot about Carswell

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Jun 15, 2017

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:14

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Angepain posted:

talking to actual people has never worked out well for May so why start now

Also the media risk of some of the residents going postal and asking difficult questions is very high; I don't think her image handlers want that on live TV and replayed on loop forever. Best to look aloof and distant; an image most people have of her anyway.

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Cat Machine: Jun 18, 2008

PostNouveau posted:

Oh, I thought they had some big swell of popular support that culminated in the Brexit vote. I guess the whole UKIP rise and fall happened in between elections.

I think you might be confusing government ministers with members of parliament, UKIP had one/two MPs in the last parliament who had no direct influence over the government

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:15

RandomPauI: Nov 24, 2006; Grimey Drawer

Is there a reason why the number of people who lived at the apartment hasn't been released?

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Demiurge4: Aug 10, 2011

Cerebral Bore posted:

Wait, they aren't allowed to do that in the UK?

This is how most fire departments treat lovely park jobs. Do they strictly need to go through your windows? No. But gently caress you if you park illegally and block an emergency vehicle.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:15

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

DesperateDan posted:

the graun has may as attending the scene but not talking to residents

pig fucker, drat, even thatcher would have gone and looked sad and sympathetic at the proles, not may.

Christ, can you imagine Maybot trying to empathise with a group of people who have lost their homes at best, their entire families at worst, and who will have a pretty good loving idea that the woman in front of them represents a party of landlords that systematically oppose and ignore basic safety and habitability regulations?

Barry Foster posted:

You're doing god's work (poster formerly known as) Ober

EDIT - ^^^^ and you too.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:16

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Thanks Ants posted:

They were never popular, they just got a disproportionate amount of coverage. The referendum was a reaction to a perception of how popular they might become.

They got 1/8th of the vote in the 2015 election which is pretty popular. If Cameron had never given us the Brexit referendum we'd likely be looking at some UKIP MPs in the next election.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:17

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

learnincurve posted:

I have a hair trigger right now on this because of what's just happened to a friend of mine.

Assessment was 20 miles away and he had to reschedule it so that he could have time to get a taxi approved. If he missed that date, even if he was ill, he would automatically have been thrown off benefits.

Evil hellbitch then went and lied, I mean actually honestly lied, and said she had seen him walking 200 yards. The taxi dropped him outside the front door, it was 30 feet total to where the interview room was and he had to stop and have a rest on the way there. lying about this meant that the evil oval office could do the only thing she could do to him which is drop him one point. This drop of one point meant he lost the mobility element, which not only means money but also his free tax and insurance.

CAB are absolutely fuming and have found a tame lawyer with An Cause to deal with it for free and he says not only is thIs bullshit and illegal my friend has also been underpaid for years.

What the gently caress

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:18

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

PostNouveau posted:

Oh, I thought they had some big swell of popular support that culminated in the Brexit vote. I guess the whole UKIP rise and fall happened in between elections.

The Brexit vote wasn't because UKIP got many seats, but because they were getting enough votes in Tory seats to start splitting the right-wing vote and threaten to let Labour candidates in

our voting system is a big ol' bag of sense let me tell you

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:18

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

RandomPauI posted:

Is there a reason why the number of people who lived at the apartment hasn't been released?

no one would know an exact number. that's why the news just quote an estimate based on the number of flats.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:20

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

RandomPauI posted:

Is there a reason why the number of people who lived at the apartment hasn't been released?

Could be all manner of sublets, people staying over and so on.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:20

sassassin: Apr 3, 2010; by Azathoth

RandomPauI posted:

Is there a reason why the number of people who lived at the apartment hasn't been released?

There probably isn't anyone who knows exactly how many people were living there, since the building was split between council and private residences, families with indeterminate numbers of kids, subletters, rented out spare rooms/closets since it's London etc.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:21

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

ukle posted:

Eye witnesses said the first fire appliances did have issue getting near to the building. Specifically there was a car double parked and blocked the road enough to not allow them to pass, then their was none removable bollards stopping the appliances from getting close to the building. It definitely delayed them a few minutes.

don't remember any bollards close to the building. but I believe you.
dangerous parking is a problem all over London. especially at night when people correctly think there's gently caress all enforcement. I hope that car gets trashed.

now that I think about it, IIRC St Anns Rd is still completely dug up for water works, so nothing's getting in from the station side either

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:24

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

DesperateDan posted:

the graun has may as attending the scene but not talking to residents

pig fucker, drat, even thatcher would have gone and looked sad and sympathetic at the proles, not may.

I have been very clear about the Government position on people choosing to die in their homes,

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:24

Jeherrin: Jun 7, 2012

Queen's Speech confirmed for Wednesday.

Betty still not happy, apparently...

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:27

Tsaedje: May 11, 2007; BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

What the gently caress

This is literally every capability for work assessment. After years of appeals I eventually got some compensation out of them for lying and removing all my benefits and then trying to cover up the lie, including to my MP. Didn't really make up for the months I was living on �5 a week.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:29

RandomPauI: Nov 24, 2006; Grimey Drawer

I think I got council housing mixed up with assigned public housing then. As opposed to apartments that happen to be nominally owned by the government.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:30

GEORGE W BUSHI: Jul 1, 2012

I'm seeing a lot of usually non-political people going hard on the gently caress the Tories wrt the fire on Facebook today. It could just be that some of them are my age group and energised by Corbyn and that some of them are in my dad's social group so emotionally invested in the fire brigade, but still. Hopefully public pressure can at least secure an end to the cuts to the service.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:30

return0: Apr 11, 2007

I am seeing a lot more posts on Facebook from my friends who don't usually post politics stuff recently, and tge tone is getting angrier. Even more so since yesterday.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:36

kustomkarkommando: Oct 22, 2012

Jeherrin posted:

Queen's Speech confirmed for Wednesday.

Betty still not happy, apparently...

https://mobile.twitter.com/KenReid_utv/status/875295090687737857

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:36

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Baron Corbyn posted:

I'm seeing a lot of usually non-political people going hard on the gently caress the Tories wrt the fire on Facebook today. It could just be that some of them are my age group and energised by Corbyn and that some of them are in my dad's social group so emotionally invested in the fire brigade, but still. Hopefully public pressure can at least secure an end to the cuts to the service.

between this and the terrorist attacks its really driven home just hwo bad the cuts have been to people otherwise unaffected

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:37

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Demiurge4 posted:

This is how most fire departments treat lovely park jobs. Do they strictly need to go through your windows? No. But gently caress you if you park illegally and block an emergency vehicle.

Yeah, see, this is more of what I'm used to. Where I'm from the firefighters will get to where they need to be, and they're not shy about taking advantage of having heavy-rear end fire trucks with reinforced bumpers to do so.

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:37

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Tsaedje posted:

This is literally every capability for work assessment. After years of appeals I eventually got some compensation out of them for lying and removing all my benefits and then trying to cover up the lie, including to my MP. Didn't really make up for the months I was living on �5 a week.

Why do they bother calling them "assessments" and not just outright say "lol ur hosed"

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:37

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

kustomkarkommando posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KenReid_utv/status/875295090687737857

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I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/875292295955873794

A cunning plan, what could possibly go wrong?

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:38

kustomkarkommando: Oct 22, 2012

Sounds like the Tories (or rather May) might be running out patience and want to push the DUP to put up or shut up, they can not tolerate or allow a corbyn government so they will have to back May or else - While of course the DUPs main negotiating strength is to drag this out for as long as they can, May looks weak enough within the party that the longer this takes the more shell be in jeopardy

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:39

unwantedplatypus: Sep 6, 2012

So did the gilded age just never end for you brits because this is something that should be excluded to history books not present in the loving newspapers

# ? Jun 15, 2017 11:40

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/875292295955873794

A cunning plan, what could possibly go wrong?

She's testing her Brexit strategy

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GEORGE W BUSHI: Jul 1, 2012

Still not convinced we aren't getting a Lib Den heel turn

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