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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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So Hammond has been saying on TV that we can't draw any conclusions from this fire yet because of 'complex technical issues'. However he can say for sure that sprinklers 'may not always be the best way' of preventing fire. Despite the multiple expert reports saying that they work.
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why should parliament convene at all? these people should be giving less attention to debating legislation and more to thinking about Brexit. That's what I'm doing.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:21
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I imagine if they continue failing at their job there will be riots.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:23
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jabby posted:So Hammond has been saying on TV that we can't draw any conclusions from this fire yet because of 'complex technical issues'. However he can say for sure that sprinklers 'may not always be the best way' of preventing fire. Despite the multiple expert reports saying that they work. personally, I've had enough of experts *burns to death in brexit britain*
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Jun 18, 2017 11:24
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dex_sda posted:ahahah if the tories refuse to do any business for years because of fears of a coalition collapsing they are gonna get eaten alive no matter what they do I'm not sure whether it was the Sun of the Mail but the morning after the election they ran an article abotu may being hosed and then had a little subtitle "stay of execution until after brexit" or something. I remember it struck me because nobody else was saying that, given how beholden the Tories are to the Mail and Murdoch I'm pretty sure they're pressuring the Tories to stick with May just long enough to make Brexit irreversible because they're eurocrazy nutcases. Not sure why the Tories don't see this as total suicide, maybe they've all drank the Brexit koolaid?
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Jun 18, 2017 11:24
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jabby posted:So Hammond has been saying on TV that we can't draw any conclusions from this fire yet because of 'complex technical issues'. However he can say for sure that sprinklers 'may not always be the best way' of preventing fire. Despite the multiple expert reports saying that they work. So he's arguing that water doesn't put out fires? I'm guessing the news is swallowing this horseshit with a smile and a wave?
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Jun 18, 2017 11:25
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So glad to be living in the bluest county in the country.
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I love the honesty on that Express front page. "May vows to take charge of inquiry", obviously they see that as strong and stable leadership, but to the rest of us, it's clear - it'll be a complete whitewash if May really is in charge.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:27
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jabby posted:Sadiq Khan has thrown his hat into the ring for 'biggest missed point' and 'biggest oval office' with his piece in the Observer. He's just royally pissed off that Corbyn didn't make a tits up out of the Election and May did, so he can't swoop in 4 years later and become next Labour PM. Its worth noting that he was shadow MoJ in the 2015 election and was pro-ongoing legal aid cuts if Labour had won. The legal aid that might have prevented this poo poo show if the Grenfell protestors had been able to proceed with litigation. Essentially he's a Tory that doesn't hate brown people.
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Angepain posted:why should parliament convene at all? these people should be giving less attention to debating legislation and more to thinking about Brexit. That's what I'm doing. Theresa May is currently sitting on her kitchen floor, staring at the word BREXIT spelled out with fridge magnets.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:lol if you think a Tory government gives a crap about poor people Oh no I know I'm just even more disgusted that it's turned out to be such a ridiculously small amount of money
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Jun 18, 2017 11:31
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nopantsjack posted:So he's arguing that water doesn't put out fires? I'm guessing the news is swallowing this horseshit with a smile and a wave? TBF, if you've looked at fire extinguisher designs, you'll have seen that there are some sorts of fires water won't put out (like, say, a burning fridge - using water on electrical fires is a really bad idea). It remains a smart precaution, but it's not a panacea.
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awesome-express posted:How are you finding the 1 series? How's the leg room for a tall person? who wants a car with touch screen controls for the stereo lol
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dex_sda posted:I imagine if they continue failing at their job there will be riots. Yeah, I was already feeling like there'd be riots after the sheer neglect at the tower became stark and "the government refuses to either do anything or call another election" seems like real "democracy has failed" territory.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:33
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jabby posted:Sadiq Khan has thrown his hat into the ring for 'biggest missed point' and 'biggest oval office' with his piece in the Observer. It hardly needs to be said in UKMT, but IF these buildings do get torn down, it is only acceptable if they are replaced with high density social housing. While RBKC are shifting tenants of Grenfell Tower as far away as Preston, it was hardly needed extra proof that dedicated social housing is needed all over London as much as it ever was. It just has to be built to high safety standards. Sprinklers in every flat, no gas pipes in the loving emergency stairwell, all that basic poo poo that should hardly need to be said. But of course that's not what Sadiq Khan has in mind. Anyway, have something a bit different & slightly less depressing. https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/876314402571653121
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i mean sprinklers is a great idea, but something tells me that not cheaply cladding a building in attractive firelighters is also a good step forward?
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Ratjaculation posted:i mean sprinklers is a great idea, but something tells me that not cheaply cladding a building in attractive firelighters is also a good step forward? Also, what was the cladding made of? Because sprinklers don't work all that well on burning metal, and I'd heard earlier rumblings about aluminium.
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Ratjaculation posted:i mean sprinklers is a great idea, but something tells me that not cheaply cladding a building in attractive firelighters is also a good step forward? I was talking to one of my (freshly elected  ) MP's boys and he was saying the cladding can only be part of it; if the fire went out as soon as it started (because there were sprinklers), or there was an adequate firebreak between the outside and inside of the building, it shouldn't have gotten to that point anyway. Fires aren't meant to be able to ascend vertically for three hours, apparently; that took 15 minutes.
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Darth Walrus posted:Also, what was the cladding made of? Because sprinklers don't work all that well on burning metal, and I'd heard earlier rumblings about aluminium. I think the point is that you'd put out the fire while it was in the room before it could even light the cladding on fire.
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Darth Walrus posted:Also, what was the cladding made of? Because sprinklers don't work all that well on burning metal, and I'd heard earlier rumblings about aluminium. internal sprinklers aren't going to work on the outside of the building anyway
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Labour's post-Election unity crumbles as prominent MP mocks idea that Jeremy Corbyn 'won' the election and warn the party's position could be a 'false dawn'quote:Labour’s fragile post-Election unity was shattered last night after one of Jeremy Corbyn’s own MPs openly mocked his claim that he ‘won’ the General Election. That didn't take long.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:43
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I think the point is that you'd put out the fire while it was in the room before it could even light the cladding on fire. And it was apparently an electrical fire, sooo... Sprinklers, yes, but also foam extinguishers in every room.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:44
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/876360790231711744 Well Hunt tried really really hard to get more money for nurses, but alas there's no budget so what can one man do? Also all of their noises about an end to Austerity were just damp farts in the void with no budget to balance such things out.
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Darth Walrus posted:TBF, if you've looked at fire extinguisher designs, you'll have seen that there are some sorts of fires water won't put out (like, say, a burning fridge - using water on electrical fires is a really bad idea). It remains a smart precaution, but it's not a panacea. What's unclear is whether sprinklers would have helped prevent the fire spreading to the flammable outer cladding before they actuated. A fridge in the corner could set a big part of the wall ablaze before a sprinkler in the middle of the ceiling turned on. That's kinda "'bidet did not prevent me squeezing load into own underpants,' complains mayor" territory though.
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dispatch_async posted:Labour's post-Election unity crumbles as prominent MP mocks idea that Jeremy Corbyn 'won' the election and warn the party's position could be a 'false dawn' Warn when.its a Mail link, you fuckers. Also lol at: ‘It is deeply disappointing that leading lights and steady hands continue to be ignored in appointments to Corbyn’s post-election Shadow Cabinet.’ Many Labour moderates are furious that genuine offers to work under Mr Corbyn had been ‘thrown back in the faces’ of party colleagues previously critical of him. That includes ex-Shadow Scottish Secretary Ian Murray who sources say had offered to talk to Mr Corbyn about returning to the front bench, only for the offer to be rejected. Instead, Mr Corbyn appointed Lesley Laird, a Scottish MP elected for the first time on June 8.
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dispatch_async posted:Labour's post-Election unity crumbles as prominent MP mocks idea that Jeremy Corbyn 'won' the election and warn the party's position could be a 'false dawn' Sam Kriss posted this about Coyle, a real man of principle & deep intellectual rigour. https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/876387595340709889 And while I'm here, have Andrew Neill being a condescending prick to the man from Survation about their absurd polling which had Labour within 1 point of the Tories. https://twitter.com/ubercoca/status/876384217034350592 forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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I wonder if May snorted her "magic money tree" catchphrase at Hunt when he said he wants more money for nurses.
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Darth Walrus posted:TBF, if you've looked at fire extinguisher designs, you'll have seen that there are some sorts of fires water won't put out (like, say, a burning fridge - using water on electrical fires is a really bad idea). It remains a smart precaution, but it's not a panacea. I did the 101 of firefighting as a part of my security degree, and the fire chief giving the lectures said that "don't put out electrical fires with water" is something people should not be saying. Use a bucket and throw the water from as far as possible or whatever to avoid getting electrocuted, but if you have nothing else, water is perfectly fine. People being afraid of putting out electrical fires and grease fires with water tend to cause fires becoming far more serious than they had to be.
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Darth Walrus posted:And it was apparently an electrical fire, sooo... Using water on an electrical fire is only a problem if you're holding the extinguisher. Sprinklers also don't kick in until a fire has already reached a pretty significant size, so by the point they turn on it's unlikely anyone would still be in the room.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:54
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The Tories aren't even making any pretence about this session being about anything other than getting the Great Repeal bill through.
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Wait I thought water on grease fires was always a no no?
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Water from a bucket onto a grease fire sounds way more dangerous than onto an electrical fire. Wouldn't that spread the fire a fuckload?
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dispatch_async posted:Labour's post-Election unity crumbles as prominent MP mocks idea that Jeremy Corbyn 'won' the election and warn the party's position could be a 'false dawn' Did Corbyn say Labour had 'won'? Wasn't he interviewed last weekend saying that no-one had won?
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Jun 18, 2017 11:56
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Caustic soda is the best thing to use on grease fires. Washing soda if you don't have that. Bicarbonate of soda if you don't have either. Not cream soda though.
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McDonnell also said on Ridge that if compulsory purchasing empty flats was too slow he would've been happy to immediately convene Parliament and push through emergency legislation in under 24 hours to allow the government to use empty homes. Can you imagine a country run by people who actually give a poo poo?
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Jun 18, 2017 11:57
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team overhead smash posted:Warn when.its a Mail link, you fuckers. Lol that they think they're entitled to a position after making GBS threads up the place.
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awesome-express posted:Thanks! I'm 194cm so maybe I need to book a test drive in both of them. What a world we live in. People going round brazenly stating their heights in Parisian centimeters as if I can tell whether that makes them midget or giant. Also better buy the beemer before brexit takes them off the market.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:What a world we live in. People going round brazenly stating their heights in Parisian centimeters as if I can tell whether that makes them midget or giant.
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