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Catch me up, guys. I've been out of town since Saturday morning and I'm hoping to hit the ground running tomorrow. What's shaping up to be the most fun tank? I started with warrior, but thanks to Raubahn I don't have much catching up to do if it isn't as good a time as paladin. Do I really want to blow my poetics on a set of 270 strength accessories? How are people melding them? Also have we heard anything specific about the end of the Garo event? I never gave a poo poo before but I got into PvP in the couple weeks before Stormblood hit and may as well work on that while I can.
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Intoluene posted:Before level 15, just make 1 of everything for the completion bonus. After that, if you don't care how long it takes, use daily GC turn ins and buy the item at high quality or just ask a friend to make it for you. If you're rushing, use leves. Before 50, you'll want to use the ones that make you deliver an item to another location. The ones needing three items are repeatable so they're actually rather efficient on allowances but not your wallet or time of you're crafting them yourself. If you have Gil to burn, pick leves with a turn-in you can buy from a vendor and repeat those. It is extremely expensive but very fast
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Jun 23, 2017 03:23
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Countblanc posted:speaking of premades: I don't know. This is just what friends on Aether are telling me. I don't play that mode, i have no idea how it works. the only thing I can guess is that there's some sort of unwritten agreement that if you see people on your team throwing it, you throw it with them to make it faster.
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Jun 23, 2017 03:25
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Jun 23, 2017 03:26
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isk posted:Temple of the Fist, 2nd boss - I broke 20k at 51. Felt real good.
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Jun 23, 2017 03:29
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Popping in to say Lakshmi is a pro fuckin' Primal with pro fuckin' music
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Jun 23, 2017 03:31
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Goddamn. I've never been into playing DPS just for the sake of big numbers, but I kinda want to get in on that while it's still crazy.
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Jun 23, 2017 03:31
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Meldonox posted:Catch me up, guys. I've been out of town since Saturday morning and I'm hoping to hit the ground running tomorrow. What's shaping up to be the most fun tank? I started with warrior, but thanks to Raubahn I don't have much catching up to do if it isn't as good a time as paladin. Do I really want to blow my poetics on a set of 270 strength accessories? How are people melding them? Paladin is very good right now and people are saying it's fun (I can't speak first hand but it does look fun and being OP is generally fun). My friend who plays DRK is rather disappointed with the job, he says it lacks mitigation compared to the other tanks and, more importantly, is just less fun to play now for a handful of reasons I don't know enough about the job to convey beyond "you press fewer buttons" and he picked DRK because it's the most button-heavy tank. Warrior gets the Class Fantasy of spamming Fel Cleave but it's weaker now and if you don't care about that it's sort of a less impressive Paladin for the moment.
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Jun 23, 2017 03:39
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Countblanc posted:Paladin is very good right now and people are saying it's fun (I can't speak first hand but it does look fun and being OP is generally fun). My friend who plays DRK is rather disappointed with the job, he says it lacks mitigation compared to the other tanks and, more importantly, is just less fun to play now for a handful of reasons I don't know enough about the job to convey beyond "you press fewer buttons" and he picked DRK because it's the most button-heavy tank. Warrior gets the Class Fantasy of spamming Fel Cleave but it's weaker now and if you don't care about that it's sort of a less impressive Paladin for the moment. Bah, when I played DRK back in Final Fantasy 2 you only had two commands: FIGHT and ITEM. So this is a big upgrade as far as I'm concerned.
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Jun 23, 2017 03:42
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Defiance Industries posted:Bah, when I played DRK back in Final Fantasy 2 you only had two commands: FIGHT and ITEM. So this is a big upgrade as far as I'm concerned. genuine lol
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Jun 23, 2017 03:43
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Minrad posted:did you forget to do HQ turn ins to your grand companies the past week or something? step it up, slacker I ain't doing HQ turnins when the item is 300k on the AH. 
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Jun 23, 2017 03:43
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the state of WAR is a kid wanting to do nothing but eat candy and then having his wish come true, but then getting a bad stomach ache
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Jun 23, 2017 03:49
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isk posted:Temple of the Fist, 2nd boss - Goddamn SAM is sick
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Jun 23, 2017 03:53
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the epicness of Ala Migho and the cutscene after is somewhat curtailed by the 23 minutes I've spent queueing for the subsequent instance at least I finally got around to putting away all my laundry. only play DPS if you have lots of chores you need to get done e: no but for real 29 minutes into this now "more than 30m" queue I cannot believe they added two new loving DPS classes, what were they thinking? abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Jun 23, 2017 03:54
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isk posted:Temple of the Fist, 2nd boss - Intoluene posted:I broke 20k at 51. Felt real good. what puny baby sam numbers https://twitter.com/FFXIVMomo/status/877384523306082308
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Jun 23, 2017 04:13
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back in WoW i remember some people would work out during long dps queues and eventually got Hella Strong just from doing pushups/situps/weights between queues. perhaps its time for ol count to get swole
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Jun 23, 2017 04:13
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abraham linksys posted:e: no but for real 29 minutes into this now "more than 30m" queue I cannot believe they added two new loving DPS classes, what were they thinking? They were thinking lots of people wanted to play DPS classes. Turns out they were right.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:18
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abraham linksys posted:the epicness of Ala Migho and the cutscene after is somewhat curtailed by the 23 minutes I've spent queueing for the subsequent instance just ask goons to run it with you, man
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Jun 23, 2017 04:18
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Nipponophile posted:They were thinking lots of people wanted to play DPS classes. Turns out they were right. The people who will play tanks and healers already are, and the people who don't aren't really gonna change their minds.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:19
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I leveled a tank for my first class just because I don't want to suffer queues.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:20
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you could probably loving give people free subs and they'd still be hesitant to tank/heal and that issue is only compounded when you make three of the six non-dps roles Literally loving Garbage in the same expansion you introduce two cool-rear end dps jobs
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Jun 23, 2017 04:21
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SMN in pvp is really fun which is weird because i dislike PVE SMN
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Jun 23, 2017 04:21
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i was a warrior main from like 2.1-3.55 and i'd rather play a dps class than have to navigate the clunky mess that is currently warrior just to do like 80 percent of a paladin's damage
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Jun 23, 2017 04:25
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:i was a warrior main from like 2.1-3.55 and i'd rather play a dps class than have to navigate the clunky mess that is currently warrior just to do like 80 percent of a paladin's damage Actually you're a tank player, which means you forever will be. So quote the sacred texts.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:27
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I'm 20 minutes into a 50/60 dps queue and it hasn't even told me what number I am in line yet
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Jun 23, 2017 04:29
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nuru posted:Are the WHM/AST folks the dps now in ~real content~? A sch can still maintain MP while doing dps, thanks to lucid dreaming + aetherflow + the odd energy drain here and there, but I'm not sure about the other two. I've only just hit 70 with sch. For dungeons definitely just go whm/ast though. Holy/gravity is still the highest spammable aoe potency in the game I think.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:34
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after a 42 minute queue we wiped twice and now people are trying to vote abandon maybe i'll pay $15 to transfer to excal at least in this tiny FC i'm in i found a party with one healer and one other dps that might make it a little better e: we matched instantly. a queue that took 42 minutes as a solo dps abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Jun 23, 2017 04:37
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I really enjoy SAM but in hindsight PLD would've been better as a first job to 70.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:37
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abraham linksys posted:the epicness of Ala Migho and the cutscene after is somewhat curtailed by the 23 minutes I've spent queueing for the subsequent instance I for one am happy that Yoshi-P was kind enough to make an MMO that will also give me time to work on my legend playthrough of Yakuza 0.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:42
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Countblanc posted:back in WoW i remember some people would work out during long dps queues and eventually got Hella Strong just from doing pushups/situps/weights between queues. perhaps its time for ol count to get swole
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:you could probably loving give people free subs and they'd still be hesitant to tank/heal and that issue is only compounded when you make three of the six non-dps roles Literally loving Garbage in the same expansion you introduce two cool-rear end dps jobs DRK isn't that bad really?
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Injuryprone posted:I leveled a tank for my first class just because I don't want to suffer queues. I'm leveling a conjurer as my first character planning to go white mage because I like healing and don't like queues. I assume this Satsasha is the first dungeon, because I went through an optional series of Dungeons 101 training scenarios first. Good gear and xp for trivial challenges like "don't stand in poo poo." The instructor even bitched at me for attacking the enemy instead of just healing. ...Actually, WoW could do with completing those training scenarios without ever getting hit by the ground effects being mandatory before being allowed to raid.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:51
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hobbesmaster posted:DRK isn't that bad really? I imagine a lot of the grousing in the thread is from comparing the tank classes to their state in HW. I really, really doubt any of them are truly that terrible.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:53
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As a long-suffering Paladin, this expansion has been very cathartic so far.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:00
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Cythereal posted:The instructor even bitched at me for attacking the enemy instead of just healing. ignore this advice, dps as much as possible as healer
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UHD posted:I imagine a lot of the grousing in the thread is from comparing the tank classes to their state in HW. I really, really doubt any of them are truly that terrible. None of them are terrible, but DRK and WAR definitely feels emptier now.
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I just started my dark knight leveling and I already like it better than HW. Much less going on. I'm hitting dark arts more often but it somehow seems less onerous than before.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:18
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This is a criticism not unique to DRK and WAR, but they were too timid to rock the boat when they should have been rejiggering some skills to become available to the player much sooner, rather than sticking them all at the end. And some of the decisions are just bad. I still think PLD needs Sheltron <15, <30 at the latest. MCH needs Cooldown at the same time as Gauss Barrel, not ten levels later. Onslaught should either cost nothing and be a straight cooldown, or generate 20 wrath on use. AST making cards into a gauge instead of card buffs means I have to allocate an extra skill to dump cards instead of just right-clicking them off. I also can't see what the other AST has pulled anymore so I can know whether or not its safe to blow my load and not get overwritted.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I just started my dark knight leveling and I already like it better than HW. Much less going on. I'm hitting dark arts more often but it somehow seems less onerous than before. it is because drk mp management used to require firing neurons in your brain but now is insanely simple, hth
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I am on attempt #11, after 3 different groups, of the final story instance. We bailed on the last one because I had two items break and my DPS was even worse than usual, and now we are all repairing our poo poo and getting our AF3 gear before regrouping  It's a very good fight but holy gently caress. So lucky I found a healer to queue with, otherwise I would have just quit playing until enough people had done that fight that I could get guaranteed carried instead of all these wipes abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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