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Surely they have to acknowledge WWII at some point, right? I get that they've got to distance themselves from Captain America, but it's kind of an elephant in the room at this point. I don't think the WW sequel should be set on Iwo Jima, but surely they can mention where Diana was during the last 7 decades.
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well why not posted:Surely they have to acknowledge WWII at some point, right? I get that they've got to distance themselves from Captain America, but it's kind of an elephant in the room at this point. I don't think the WW sequel should be set on Iwo Jima, but surely they can mention where Diana was during the last 7 decades. WWII was butterflied away when Luddendorf killed Hindenburg and his staff, and then got himself killed by a Goddess. Hindenburg was President of the Wiemar Republic from 1925-34 and in his dottage was in many ways responsible for the Nazi seizure of power. Maybe they had a late 40s World War started by Stalin. 
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Jun 23, 2017 12:03
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well why not posted:Surely they have to acknowledge WWII at some point, right? I get that they've got to distance themselves from Captain America, but it's kind of an elephant in the room at this point. I don't think the WW sequel should be set on Iwo Jima, but surely they can mention where Diana was during the last 7 decades. Booster Gold is gonna win WWII in the DCCU.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:55
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Lobok posted:Yeah, me too. For someone who doesn't know much about the two World Wars, "the war to end all wars" probably logically sounds like the second and last one. The movie also treats the Germans as the bad guys. And so unless you understand when biplanes were used or recognizing the fashions I don't remember anything overt that makes it clear it's WW1, right? Trenches are the most distinguishing feature of World War I. It's "the war with the trenches". And they weren't calling it "the war to end all wars" in the future looking back, they were in the middle of the war, having no idea there would be another World War. They couldn't imagine any wars after this one, because either we'd all realize how awful wars are and not have them anymore, or we'd all be dead. But seriously, by showing trenches and no man's land (and the fact that no one was waving a swastika around), I literally don't know what more they could have done to tell you it was World War I.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:25
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I can't stop laughing at the idea that the characters in the film should refer to the war they're currently in as "World War I" so that people know what war it is.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:37
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One character in WW should have done this, later revealed to be Booster Gold.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:43
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The MSJ posted:One character in WW should have done this, later revealed to be Booster Gold. Seems like more a job for Metron. Who Diana then assumes is Ares.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:47
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The MSJ posted:One character in WW should have done this, later revealed to be Booster Gold. Yesss. That or Booster accidentally offhandedly reveals the Normandy Invasion during WW2.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:52
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Detective No. 27 posted:Yesss. He arrives in WWI but thinks it's WWII and keeps giving really weird advice to everyone.
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Jun 23, 2017 14:00
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well why not posted:Surely they have to acknowledge WWII at some point, right? I get that they've got to distance themselves from Captain America, but it's kind of an elephant in the room at this point. I don't think the WW sequel should be set on Iwo Jima, but surely they can mention where Diana was during the last 7 decades. She did explicitly say that she left the world of men for one hundred years after her last excursion. While I think another period piece would be good for WW, I think it's pretty clear that that's not what DC is interested in doing.
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Jun 23, 2017 14:09
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Cythereal posted:She did explicitly say that she left the world of men for one hundred years after her last excursion. I thought I remembered reading years ago that their plan was to do one movie in WWI or WWII, one movie in, like, the 70's or something, and one movie in the present. But that was so long ago, who knows if it's still true. Or if I dreamed it up.
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Jun 23, 2017 14:42
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Charlz Guybon posted:WWII was butterflied away when Luddendorf killed Hindenburg and his staff, and then got himself killed by a Goddess. Hindenburg was President of the Wiemar Republic from 1925-34 and in his dottage was in many ways responsible for the Nazi seizure of power. I would love to see Wonder Woman 2 as a stealth adaptation of Command & Conquer: Red Alert.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:05
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The MSJ posted:" Who is Hitler? " Gyges posted:Seems like more a job for Metron. Who Diana then assumes is Ares. The running joke of Diana assuming everyone is Ares is slaying me.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:16
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Cythereal posted:She did explicitly say that she left the world of men for one hundred years after her last excursion. Gotta keep some stuff for the upcoming Etrigan vs Vandal Savage epic.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:26
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thrawn527 posted:I thought I remembered reading years ago that their plan was to do one movie in WWI or WWII, one movie in, like, the 70's or something, and one movie in the present. But that was so long ago, who knows if it's still true. Or if I dreamed it up. I would be infinitely down for a DC Comics' version of Black Dynamite, starring Wonder Woman.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:28
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A reminder that WW became a spy wearing a mod bodysuit in the 1960s/70s.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:39
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Detective No. 27 posted:Geoff Johns is so hopeful! Jesus Christ. Who drew that ugly poo poo and got paid for it?
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Jun 23, 2017 17:11
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I think that the only thing that kind of bugs me now about WONDER WOMAN is that nothing is a challenge. I mean the only point Diana is ever shown as weak or overcome as a character is when she's a kid. Lord knows that the movie isn't alone in that (Hello THE FORCE AWAKENS) but it's something that stuck out for me. Oh and her deciding that Steve is her motivation and never mentioning the Aunt she had who was also killed by Germans.
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Jun 23, 2017 18:27
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DrVenkman posted:I think that the only thing that kind of bugs me now about WONDER WOMAN is that nothing is a challenge. I mean the only point Diana is ever shown as weak or overcome as a character is when she's a kid. Lord knows that the movie isn't alone in that (Hello THE FORCE AWAKENS) but it's something that stuck out for me. This is generally how her and Superman work. Not capable of really personally being in danger, so their peril is in not being able to protect the innocent or prevent casualties and destruction.
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Jun 23, 2017 18:38
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She didn't decide Steve was her motivation, she decided Love was her motivation.
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Jun 23, 2017 19:07
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So I made a point the other day about how I wish there were more stupid gratuitous cameos in comic book films because I maybe counterintuitively feel like it would make the shared universe more "realized". Like yeah Tony Stark shouldn't be in every Marvel film but he is a famous enough dude that he should be on in the TV in the background or something. Anyway, I just saw a Spider-Man ad where Captain America appears in a video to lecture kids who have detention and it legitimately made me twice as excited about the movie.
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Jun 23, 2017 19:28
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Gyges posted:Gotta keep some stuff for the upcoming Etrigan vs Vandal Savage epic. God, a (well made) Demon Knights movie would own.
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Jun 23, 2017 20:27
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So I've seen BvS Ultimate Cut but are the extras worth it? I was hearing some really cool stuff about how insanely detailed everything was. That kind of nerd stuff is my thing.
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Jun 23, 2017 20:34
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Barudak posted:My mother thought for years that Hitler fought alongside the allies during WW1 and she was aware that this film was WW1 so Im really not sure what your point is Lobok. Should a character should have paused and looked at the camera and used a term for the war that would have had literally no frame of reference for? Do you want a title card to pop up? Maybe a snapcode to scan? Holy poo poo, all I was doing was agreeing with SolidSnakesBandana that I bet there are a bunch of people who thought the movie was set in WW2 and then thinking about what was in the movie that signals it's not. If people don't understand that it's WW1 then that's their problem, not the filmmakers'. Never said the movie needed to be any different.
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Jun 23, 2017 20:41
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Guy A. Person posted:So I made a point the other day about how I wish there were more stupid gratuitous cameos in comic book films because I maybe counterintuitively feel like it would make the shared universe more "realized". Like yeah Tony Stark shouldn't be in every Marvel film but he is a famous enough dude that he should be on in the TV in the background or something. I can't imagine a worse person to pitch a lecture to at risk youth, someone that was given super powers by drugs.
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Jun 23, 2017 21:59
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Jerk McJerkface posted:I can't imagine a worse person to pitch a lecture to at risk youth, someone that was given super powers by drugs. Not only that, but he also drinks alcohol without any consequences
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Jun 23, 2017 23:21
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Jerk McJerkface posted:I can't imagine a worse person to pitch a lecture to at risk youth, someone that was given super powers by drugs. I hope it's the same lecture that their grandparents were getting and is still in black and white with film grain. Also hope he went off on a tangent about how dumb cheeseburgers are, as any good New Yorker from the 30s would.
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Jun 24, 2017 00:10
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Based on the trailers, it's not a 1940's newsreel, but a lovely VHS tape, which raises even more questions.
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Jun 24, 2017 00:23
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Robot Style posted:Based on the trailers, it's not a 1940's newsreel, but a lovely VHS tape, which raises even more questions. It's probably a video on DVD but the school is so terribly-funded they had to transfer the video to VHS since they have no DVD player.
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So I'm on vacation and marathoning the Marvel movies and MAN this is a lot of set up for the Infinity War movie which I know due to sheer inertia it's going to be impossible for it to bomb but I kinda want it to. What was Thor 2 setting up though? Was it the implication that Loki killed or captured Odin or something? And I watched Civil War before Iron Man 3 but in that movie Tony apparently destroyed all the iron men armors? I can't remember if CW addresses that I'm watching CA2 right now and goddamn the old man make up on Agent Carter is atrocious
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Jun 24, 2017 02:08
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It's not makeup.
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Jun 24, 2017 02:18
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Iron Man 3 comes way back at the start of Phase 2 before Age of Ultron and years before Civil War. So somewhere between IM3 and Age of Ultron Stark obviously rebuilt and his guilt/fear pushed him towards the Ultron "armor around the Earth" project. Which I think more or less works for Tony Stark's narrative. Phase 1 is all about his obsessive journey to be a hero where he thinks he's the poo poo all leading to Avengers where he all but sacrifices himself to save the Earth. Then Phase 2 starts with him recognizing the consequences and becoming obsessed with something better than Iron Man and the damage he's caused on to Age of Ultron and Civil War.
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STAC Goat posted:Iron Man 3 comes way back at the start of Phase 2 before Age of Ultron and years before Civil War. So somewhere between IM3 and Age of Ultron Stark obviously rebuilt and his guilt/fear pushed him towards the Ultron "armor around the Earth" project. Which I think more or less works for Tony Stark's narrative. Phase 1 is all about his obsessive journey to be a hero where he thinks he's the poo poo all leading to Avengers where he all but sacrifices himself to save the Earth. Then Phase 2 starts with him recognizing the consequences and becoming obsessed with something better than Iron Man and the damage he's caused on to Age of Ultron and Civil War. Stark explicitly says in Civil War that all the destruction he's caused is why he supports the Accords. He doesn't trust himself to do the right thing anymore but every time he tries to walk away from it events conspire to pull him right back in. Iron Man 3 makes the most sense if you watch it immediately after Avengers, since a huge part of the movie is Stark's PTSD from Avengers.
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Jun 24, 2017 04:01
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Awesome man
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Yeah I think that IRON MAN 3 did a great job of rounding off Tony's arc (There was the repeated rumour that he was then going to start taking a smaller role, which didn't happen obviously), but ULTRON needs to backpeddle on it quite a bit before CIVIL WAR gets him back in the same place again. They play it a bit loose.
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Calaveron posted:So I'm on vacation and marathoning the Marvel movies and MAN this is a lot of set up for the Infinity War movie which I know due to sheer inertia it's going to be impossible for it to bomb but I kinda want it to. What was Thor 2 setting up though? Was it the implication that Loki killed or captured Odin or something? Yes. It gets mentioned at the end of Doctor Strange too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMGqZKiPtpk (The video is overly long because it's got analysis crap at the end, but it's the only version I've found online that has the full clip).
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Jun 24, 2017 08:36
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Alehkhs posted:New TV spot for Valerian, giving us some new glimpses at some of the aliens of the film: Apparently this is part of a "series" of TV spots for Valerian. Here are more, with different snippets of footage in each: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87v6ErhAN8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXH6-AE7L60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLdJEpeQRs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExllqAlEpnM
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Now THR is also reporting that Lord and Miller are free to return to Flash if they wish toquote:What will happen next for Lord and Miller isn’t clear but they are in demand and have an open berth waiting for them to direct The Flash for Warner Bros., if they chose to take it. (They had left that film for the Han Solo movie but could return.) http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-han-solo-movie-firing-new-details-behind-phil-lord-chris-miller-exit-1016619
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Jun 26, 2017 23:20
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I wonder if they're still doing the animated Miles Morales Spider-Man movie. It's a total different division of Disney, and it didn't stop Favreu from doing Jungle Book after his Iron Man/MCU troubles.
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The Miles Morales movie is also Sony. There is apparently a video of Kevin Feige's confused reaction to Amy Pascal saying that Venom and all the other Spidey character movies Sony is making will be part of the MCU.
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