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The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Black Bones posted:

whatever weird european movie showcase was playing

Two hours of a black and white bizarre subtitled French art flick for 30 seconds of mediocre titties.

Good times.

Come to think of it... Showcase must have inadvertently broadened the cultural horizons of thousands of horny kids. I still remember a lot of those movies.

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Lars Blitzer
Aug 17, 2004

He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink...


Dick Tracy's number one fan.

The Butcher posted:

Two hours of a black and white bizarre subtitled French art flick for 30 seconds of mediocre titties.

Good times.

Come to think of it... Showcase must have inadvertently broadened the cultural horizons of thousands of horny kids. I still remember a lot of those movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntbpkEGul_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUKKC-r4GQU

Basically, that was their business model.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Bustin Justin is at a Pride parade today, providing Real Change for Canada and Protecting our Middle Class and Those Looking to Join It

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
he's so good looking and a pm of the people look at his selfies

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
Why so many gays at the Justin Trudeau parade?

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
It would be weird as gently caress to hear a politician say "we want to do X thing to help the lower class."

Like we have to be inherently admitting that classes exist and are a thing if we say we want to do things to help out the middle class.

You can't have a middle without something below and above it. And yet it is like the most taboo of things to actually say "lower class" out loud.

I know, I know, everyone is middle class and words have no meaning anymore. But still. It's pretty hosed up.

:capitalism:

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

The Butcher posted:

It would be weird as gently caress to hear a politician say "we want to do X thing to help the lower class."

Like we have to be inherently admitting that classes exist and are a thing if we say we want to do things to help out the middle class.

You can't have a middle without something below and above it. And yet it is like the most taboo of things to actually say "lower class" out loud.

I know, I know, everyone is middle class and words have no meaning anymore. But still. It's pretty hosed up.

:capitalism:

*justin rides up in a seadoo*

*takes selfie with the butcher*

'hey guys he's not so bad afterall'

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

namaste faggots posted:

*justin rides up in a seadoo*

*takes selfie with the butcher*

'hey guys he's not so bad afterall'

That was Stockwell Day's gimmick

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


The Butcher posted:

It would be weird as gently caress to hear a politician say "we want to do X thing to help the lower class."

Like we have to be inherently admitting that classes exist and are a thing if we say we want to do things to help out the middle class.

You can't have a middle without something below and above it. And yet it is like the most taboo of things to actually say "lower class" out loud.

I know, I know, everyone is middle class and words have no meaning anymore. But still. It's pretty hosed up.

:capitalism:

There is nothing but the middle class, those working hard to join the middle class, the upper middle class making $250k a year that actually get the middle class tax cuts and benefit from the middle class tax credits, and the 1% who we can't go after because they're the job creators and if we tax them they'll take their fast food joints and grocery stores and move them somewhere with a more desirable tax climate.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Like it's a literal fighting words insult to call someone "lower class".

Which means being lower class is bad and undesirable.

But you can't have a middle class without a lower class to rise above. That's a pretty hosed up way to structure your society.

It seems the only fair and just solution would be to dissolve all classes so all men stand equal.

Original idea Do Not Steal.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

namaste faggots posted:

*justin rides up in a seadoo*

*takes selfie with the butcher*

'hey guys he's not so bad afterall'

Wait was the seadoo battery powered or gas?

This shapes my opinion.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

The Butcher posted:

It seems the only fair and just solution would be to dissolve all classes so all men stand equal.

Original idea Do Not Steal.

One Tax Bracket To Rule Them All

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Postess with the Mostest posted:

One Tax Bracket To Rule Them All

So Alberta was right all along, huh.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

The Butcher posted:

It seems the only fair and just solution would be to dissolve all classes so all men stand equal.

Gotta have teams for warfare.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Risky Bisquick posted:

That was Stockwell Day's gimmick

I bet Ezra was seething when he saw that since he Rocked the Stock so hard he initially refused to step aside in his safe riding for Stephen Harper (and thus ended his career in politics thank God)

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Gah phone double

Scaramouche fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jun 25, 2017

Lien
Oct 17, 2006
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Postess with the Mostest posted:

One Tax Bracket To Rule Them All

Tax everyone so no one makes more than 100k and people who make below are topped up.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Lien posted:

Tax everyone so no one makes more than 100k and people who make below are topped up.

Finally some rural love in the thread.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Subjunctive posted:

Bleu Nuit. The last five minutes of that Québécois sportscast must have had great ratings.

Nothing was more important than being able to see Blue Nuit satuday night. If You didn't, you sucked. The best part was this was also the Silver Age of SNL so being able to stay up and watch it was easy. No parent would question their kids on staying up when they claimed they wanted to see Waynes World or Chuch Lady on SNL.

The Butcher posted:

Two hours of a black and white bizarre subtitled French art flick for 30 seconds of mediocre titties.

Good times.

Come to think of it... Showcase must have inadvertently broadened the cultural horizons of thousands of horny kids. I still remember a lot of those movies.

I dunno, I remember most of them were pretty good. Nothing beat Emmanuel movies though, they showed the French knew how to make a spankable movie without getting all arty like the Italians. This was also how I saw stuff like Brazil or Delicatessen.

I'm glad I read back in the thread, because I'm been really confused at why people hate the Liberials, but love the Cons here in Ontario. There isn't that much of a difference economically, but socially they're way off (i'm including poo poo that makes it affordable to live and minimum wage increase as social). I'm finding people are all "yea gently caress Wynn, the Cons will come back and restart the housing market so my house will be worth 3 million and I won't have to pay the lazy Philippinos that work at my store a livable wage! no loving dyke is gonna tell me I have to pay these people 1$15 an hour. I need that week in Nice!".

As if the cons will reduce hydro prices. It's not like a tenant of modern conservatism is the government should be making a profit.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

twistedmentat posted:

As if the cons will reduce hydro prices. It's not like a tenant of modern conservatism is the government should be making a profit.

They'll complete privatization of Hydro One, and then true competition will bloom, fostering lower prices for everyone. Exactly as happened with these successful examples of privatization in our history:
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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
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DHL

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Jan posted:

They'll complete privatization of Hydro One, and then true competition will bloom, fostering lower prices for everyone. Exactly as happened with these successful examples of privatization in our history:
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I mean, it's going to work at least once! Though if elected, the Sun will mysteriously shut up about hydro rates. They'll double down on the "Scary brown people" though.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

twistedmentat posted:

They'll double down on the "Scary brown people" though.

No I think they're cool with the OPC leader.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Postess with the Mostest posted:

Finally some rural love in the thread.

Ironically rurals would fight this the hardest

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

The Butcher posted:

It would be weird as gently caress to hear a politician say "we want to do X thing to help the lower class."

Like we have to be inherently admitting that classes exist and are a thing if we say we want to do things to help out the middle class.

You can't have a middle without something below and above it. And yet it is like the most taboo of things to actually say "lower class" out loud.

I know, I know, everyone is middle class and words have no meaning anymore. But still. It's pretty hosed up.

:capitalism:

There's 2 things that are really hosed up about the Liberals "Middle Class" messaging, one you covered, it's like literally everyone from people making minimum wage to people making like 180k in office jobs all truly believe they are the middle class which apparently just means you can afford shelter and maybe food every day of the week. The 2nd hosed up part is a lot of people that know they are part of the lower class will actively vote against their own interests so that they day they live out the Canadian dream and join that middle class they don't have to pay extra tax on their future hypothetical middle class wage.

In the US people actively pushed back against an increased estate tax over 5 million because what if they won the lottery and then died, their kids wouldn't get the rest of that excessive wealth!

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

DariusLikewise posted:

There's 2 things that are really hosed up about the Liberals "Middle Class" messaging, one you covered, it's like literally everyone from people making minimum wage to people making like 180k in office jobs all truly believe they are the middle class which apparently just means you can afford shelter and maybe food every day of the week. The 2nd hosed up part is a lot of people that know they are part of the lower class will actively vote against their own interests so that they day they live out the Canadian dream and join that middle class they don't have to pay extra tax on their future hypothetical middle class wage.

In the US people actively pushed back against an increased estate tax over 5 million because what if they won the lottery and then died, their kids wouldn't get the rest of that excessive wealth!

Big red tent

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

DariusLikewise posted:

There's 2 things that are really hosed up about the Liberals "Middle Class" messaging, one you covered, it's like literally everyone from people making minimum wage to people making like 180k in office jobs all truly believe they are the middle class which apparently just means you can afford shelter and maybe food every day of the week. The 2nd hosed up part is a lot of people that know they are part of the lower class will actively vote against their own interests so that they day they live out the Canadian dream and join that middle class they don't have to pay extra tax on their future hypothetical middle class wage.

In the US people actively pushed back against an increased estate tax over 5 million because what if they won the lottery and then died, their kids wouldn't get the rest of that excessive wealth!

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

DariusLikewise posted:

In the US people actively pushed back against an increased estate tax over 5 million because what if they won the lottery and then died, their kids wouldn't get the rest of that excessive wealth!

The joke's on them, most lottery winners and people that "get lucky" end up pissing all of it away long before they die. Being rich is pretty easy, but staying rich is surprisingly non-trivial from what I've observed.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

PT6A posted:

The joke's on them, most lottery winners and people that "get lucky" end up pissing all of it away long before they die. Being rich is pretty easy, but staying rich is surprisingly non-trivial from what I've observed.

Invest your winnings in some safe mutual fund that pays out two to three percent above inflation. Your ten million dollars is now two hundred fifty thousand dollars a year in perpetuity.

Don't invest in crazy schemes or overextend your credit, and you're golden. Also, don't lend to your family.

It's not a bigass yacht, but it's security for the rest of your life. Sounds pretty good to me.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
WTF is this no yacht gtfo

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

PhilippAchtel posted:

Invest your winnings in some safe mutual fund that pays out two to three percent above inflation. Your ten million dollars is now two hundred fifty thousand dollars a year in perpetuity.

Don't invest in crazy schemes or overextend your credit, and you're golden. Also, don't lend to your family.

It's not a bigass yacht, but it's security for the rest of your life. Sounds pretty good to me.

Yeah, it shouldn't be difficult but almost no one ends up actually doing that.

thehoodie
Feb 8, 2011

"Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

Kraftwerk posted:

Could some people in the know please explain to the thread what would happen if some of us left leaning posters decided to actually stop complaining and do something about the NDP?

What would happen if for example people like Helsing joined the NDP and tried to run for high office? Could it be possible for a few individuals to move in favour of legit socialism instead of this ineffectual milquetoast nonsense?

Check out the Courage Coalition.

I'm obviously skeptical about whether they will be able to accomplish anything meaningful, but it is organized by a number of people I respect highly and they are very committed to, among other things, the idea of renewing the NDP to be legitimately progressive. Basically, it's at least better than nothing.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

But with my lottery winnings, I can finally open up the restaurant that I've always wanted to own! (90% of lottery winners for some reason).

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

PT6A posted:

Yeah, it shouldn't be difficult but almost no one ends up actually doing that.

It's crazy how society has shifted to having such little expectation for capital these days. Being satisfied with a couple percent above inflation, ridiculous, you'd be paying income tax on the dividends and full capital gains when you sell.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Postess with the Mostest posted:

It's crazy how society has shifted to having such little expectation for capital these days. Being satisfied with a couple percent above inflation, ridiculous, you'd be paying income tax on the dividends and full capital gains when you sell.

So you're saying to start a cockfighting ring in bowmanville, cash/bitcoin only.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/2017/06/25/conservative-leader-andrew-scheer-talks-about-his-policies.html

Here's one of the more telling interviews Scheer has done so far, looks like most of the policies he will adopt will basically be focused around undoing things the Liberals have done. I think he's going to have a hard time convincing young people that expanded CPP and EI are a bad thing for them and the transit pass thing isn't going to win an election. I think the CPC will be looking for a new leader again after 2019.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
The type of person who buys lottery tickets is the type of person who tends to not be the greatest at managing money in the first place.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
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Black Bones posted:

Ah those pre-internet halcyon days of sexy bra ads, garbled pay-per-view channels, and whatever weird european movie showcase was playing

I think I see an areola!

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

mojo1701a posted:

But with my lottery winnings, I can finally open up the restaurant that I've always wanted to own! (90% of lottery winners for some reason).

Because they're simpleminded, that's why the were playing the lottery in the first place.

gently caress, just open up a franchise and hire people to run a restaurant concept that's already known to work, like the Keg or something.

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Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

HookShot posted:

The type of person who buys lottery tickets is the type of person who tends to not be the greatest at managing money in the first place.

That's a really nice way of saying that the lottery is A tax on people who're terrible at math. Whenever I'm annoyed in a line by someone strenuously trying to pick the right ticket in front of me, I appreciate that I'm watching somebody pay a voluntary tax and it gets better.

Risky Bisquick posted:

So you're saying to start a cockfighting ring in bowmanville, cash/bitcoin only.

Dude, no, not bowmanville. Downtown Toronto Vancouver, $5m SFH. Gotta shelter those cap gains.

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