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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Peel posted:This cannot be stressed enough for Americans visiting the thread: the US healthcare system is uniquely bad. It delivers mediocre outcomes at extremely high prices, well outside the range of costs of other developed world systems. You can debate which system would be best to switch to, but the answer to 'would we be be better off with [other first-world country system]?' is always 'yes.' Scene: Monty Hall's "Let's Make a Healthcare Deal" An American reaches the final game—the one everyone's familiar with, where you have three doors, behind one of which is a car and the remaining two, a goat. Except in this version, there are sixty doors. One is decorated with gaudy red, white, and blue stars and stripes* while the others are more tastefully done. Monty asks the American to choose a door. The American immediately points to the red, white, and blue door while chanting "USA!! USA!! USA!!" Monty opens that door to reveal a goat. Monty then opens the remaining fifty-nine doors to reveal a range of single-payer universal healthcare options, each of which delivers better outcomes at a lower total cost to the taxpayer than the American system. He then asks if the American would like to switch doors. The American does not switch doors and loudly insults each of them while pissing all over the studio * autocorrect tried to capitalise that, wtf fake edit: snyep
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Tigey posted:Doesn't matter that it enrages the EU, and sets fire to the UK economy due to skills shortages, etc The upside is there'll probably be huge demand for skilled Britons to fill those jobs. The downside is you'd have to live in post Brexit Britain when you clearly have the skills to move elsewhere.
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big scary monsters posted:The upside is there'll probably be huge demand for skilled Britons to fill those jobs. The downside is you'd have to live in post Brexit Britain when you clearly have the skills to move elsewhere. Still better than Trump's America.
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Why is the UK Marxism Thread suddenly full of Americans talking about Trump? Have we offered asylum or something?
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feedmegin posted:Why is the UK Marxism Thread suddenly full of Americans talking about Trump? Have we offered asylum or something? It's merely the international at work, comrade. 
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look i ain't racist or nothing i just think these foreigners coming over here should drat well learn our own horrible endless circular arguments about politics rather than bringing their own over here. sometimes i'm on the bus and someone will say "rigged the primaries with superdelegates" to their friend and I won't know what they're on about, that's not very social now is it
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feedmegin posted:Why is the UK Marxism Thread suddenly full of Americans talking about Trump? Have we offered asylum or something? Your political situation is way less depressing than ours and we're following to feel better.
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Night10194 posted:Your political situation is way less depressing than ours and we're following to feel better. Christ, that bad, eh?
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TomViolence posted:Christ, that bad, eh? TBH I found the nuclear war video someone posted a little while back less depressing than US politics.
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TomViolence posted:Christ, that bad, eh? Imagine the Tories controlled most of the levers of state that decide who is allowed to vote.
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feedmegin posted:Why is the UK Marxism Thread suddenly full of Americans talking about Trump? Have we offered asylum or something? Someone mentioned Hillary and thus the siren song wafted across the forums. This is why we don't mention Hillary people.
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Night10194 posted:Imagine the Tories controlled most of the levers of state that decide who is allowed to vote. They do? E: i guess now they'd have to get the DUP to sign off, but parliement has the power to change any aspect of our electoral system Gum fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Night10194 posted:Imagine the Tories controlled most of the levers of state that decide who is allowed to vote.
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Jun 28, 2017 00:18
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Basically poo poo's hosed over here.
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The government had plans to completely gently caress over labour electorally but lol May was so confident that she called the election before they could go through
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Night10194 posted:Basically poo poo's hosed over here. If it helps the rest of the world has noticed that your poo poo is hosed, you haven't been flying under the radar here.
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Night10194 posted:Your political situation is way less depressing than ours and we're following to feel better.
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Ofaloaf posted:Quoting just to confirm that follow UKMT and UK politics is my way of cheering up after reading about whatever the hell the latest news here is. Haha wait till Brexit becomes a real thing happening now instead of a hosed up thing that's going to happen in the future. EDIT: Also this thread was very recently about a bunch of people being burned alive in an extremely depressing example of how little late stage capitalism values human life . Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 00:36
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So tomorrow Labour will table an amendment to the Queen's speech to end the public sector pay cap. Pretty canny politics really, since several Tories (including Hunt himself) have suggested support for this policy is dropping and it's probably going to be ditched soon. By bringing this amendment Labour get to hit the Tories for voting it down, especially after bunging a load of money to Northern Ireland, and then they get to claim they pressured the government into it if the pay cap does get dropped. It's sure to ruffle a few feathers with Tories in marginal seats, especially if they've tried to play up their anti-austerity views.
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Night10194 posted:Your political situation is way less depressing than ours and we're following to feel better. It wasn't that long ago, post-Brexit but pre-Trump, I started reading the USpol thread for exactly that reason.
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Jun 28, 2017 00:42
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm looking forward to PMQs tomorrow, as Labour table their amendment. Lets hope Jezza hasn't peaked too soon...
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radmonger posted:It wasn't that long ago, post-Brexit but pre-Trump, I started reading the USpol thread for exactly that reason. Yeah likewise. What a fun dance this is.
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TomViolence posted:Christ, that bad, eh? Americans are little pissbabies who don't get that trump is a symptom of their problems, not a cause. America is a militaristic hyper nationalistic county that borders on fascism at times and the horrible reality is that trumps incompetence is actually probably for the best as democrats and republicans alike are both on board with the militarist empire. poo poo is hosed but it has been since the 1960s and trump isn't really that big of a deal and is in fact a distraction from the real issues of militarism, nationalism, American exceptionalism and the institutional racism
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Jun 28, 2017 00:48
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JFairfax posted:Americans are little pissbabies who don't get that trump is a symptom of their problems, not a cause. This is a very spicy and very good take. Trickjaw posted:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm looking forward to PMQs tomorrow, as Labour table their amendment. Lets hope Jezza hasn't peaked too soon... I don't fuckin think so he's just getting started.
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Jun 28, 2017 00:49
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I follow this thread to get a vicarious contact high from Corbyn and his wonderful policies, while working back home to try and get people like him for us. It's like bashing your head on a brick wall named CENTRISM and that you actually have a functional and fighting Labor Party gives me hope.
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If you're looking for solace in UK politics you might want to strap in for a bumpy ride. JC/Labour have been emboldened and it's a once in a generation event for a socialist opposition to look so healthy but a lot more has to change to stop me from grimacing every time I go to read a newspaper.
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Jun 28, 2017 00:58
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I'm desperate, not crazy. I know the reputation of your press perfectly well, that's why I get all my news from here.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Haha wait till Brexit becomes a real thing happening now instead of a hosed up thing that's going to happen in the future.
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If only these loving lefties were actually right-wing and didn't care at all about the working class, then they'd surely get elected! ~centrism~
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Death to America
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Namtab posted:Death to America
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Paul Ryan posted:Death to Americans
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I was playing Hearts of Iron IV and before 1938 rolled around I accidentally turned America into the Communist States of America, so I know I'm one of the Good Ones
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Fans posted:Someone mentioned Hillary and thus the siren song wafted across the forums. This is why we don't mention Hillary people. If you say hillary in the mirror three times a guy wearing a red baseball cap will appear in your bedroom at night and say "this is why trump won".
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JFairfax posted:Americans are little pissbabies who don't get that trump is a symptom of their problems, not a cause. Well we learned it from you, Dad!
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Crabtree posted:Well we learned it from you, Dad! Yeah well I think we learned it from the Roman Empire, so really this is all Italys fault
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Night10194 posted:Imagine the Tories controlled most of the levers of state that decide who is allowed to vote. also imagine Corbyn's efforts, except after they've been proven incredibly popular and effective Labour still kept running away from him and his policies e: Nuclearmonkee posted:Haha wait till Brexit becomes a real thing happening now instead of a hosed up thing that's going to happen in the future. Even Brexit has that smidge of hope that Corbyn becomes PM before talks end and sets Britain on a course that lets Britain not be a wasteland long-term and safely exits the EU while keeping the good parts (i.e not the brain drain and austerity vultures) Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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We do have a bit of a complication in that socialist policies are popular up until the exact second you suggest someone who isn't white might get those benefits, here. Then the screaming starts. E: Though I imagine that's true in Britain, too. Trying to criticize policy they can't attack on policy basis by turning to racism is one of the favorite tactics of the right. Night10194 fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:The only good nukes are the ones you drop on France, or maybe India, in Civ 4 Having Gandhi launch pre-emptive nukes at me. I was shocked at having some cities nuked but BY Gandhi? GANDHI? IT'S ON MOFO.
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Gradis posted:Having Gandhi launch pre-emptive nukes at me. I was shocked at having some cities nuked but BY Gandhi? GANDHI? IT'S ON MOFO. Ah, you must be unfamiliar with the Civilisation series's Gandhi.
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