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hiddenriverninja: May 10, 2013; life is locomotion
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Is it against the rules to use the holodeck to kill a facsimile of a coworker you hate? Like, how closely do they monitor that stuff?

# ? Jun 29, 2017 01:26

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WampaLord: Jan 14, 2010

Presumably the replicator and holodeck do offer a lot of solutions to social issues. Bad day at work? Order up your favorite meal, perfectly made, then step into your favorite holodeck program and forget all about it.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 01:32

Orv: May 4, 2011

Just 24/7 non-stop off camera fuckin'.

Especially with the fish dudes.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 01:39

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

hiddenriverninja posted:

Is it against the rules to use the holodeck to kill a facsimile of a coworker you hate?

Well you HAVE to kill Geordi to pass the bridge officer's test, so I'd say yeah, go for it.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 01:51

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Hipster_Doofus posted:

It's Ars. As a long-ago expat from there, I am not at all surprised. God I hate that place. The front page articles (and the comments) are (usually) alright, but their forums are insufferable. Even reading my own post history there makes me cringe.

These were comments on a front-page article, which is just sad.

But they hired Annalee Newitz (the founder of io9, who also pretty obviously edits her own Wikipedia entry) as their tech culture editor last year, which means she's the person who writes basically every article about TV shows and movies, and so nowadays every single piece is written from the angle of, "If it isn't precisely what I imagined in my head prior to watching it, it sucks out loud and everyone should be ashamed of it."

# ? Jun 29, 2017 01:58

Nothus Infelix: Jan 1, 2006; Scelesti vulgus superstitiosus ignavusque sunt.

hiddenriverninja posted:

Is it against the rules to use the holodeck to kill a facsimile of a coworker you hate? Like, how closely do they monitor that stuff?

Since I just watched it, "Hollow Pursuits" establishes there is no rule against making holodeck facsimiles of coworkers and attacking them with swords, though Riker felt it was against protocol. It might fall under some general "respect for superior officers" rule. They apparently don't monitor it at all, although your boss can walk into the holodeck at any time. I think in a later episode Leah Brahms even replays one of Geordi's programs, complete with her facsimile's verbal responses. So theoretically, if you kill your coworker in the holodeck, the same coworker can replay your murder fantasy at any time.

I also just saw David Rappaport's scenes as Kivas Fajo. I had no idea he was a dwarf.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 02:04

FredMSloniker: Jan 2, 2008; Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

hiddenriverninja posted:

Is it against the rules to use the holodeck to kill a facsimile of a coworker you hate? Like, how closely do they monitor that stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTpBN6jKa4
In case it's not obvious from context, it's a holodeck simulation. Tuvok was having issues with emotional control after a mind meld.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 02:14

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

Why he jacked don't fit?

# ? Jun 29, 2017 02:33

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Powered Descent posted:

Well you HAVE to kill Geordi to pass the bridge officer's test, so I'd say yeah, go for it.

"There are some odd sensors readings on deck two. What are your orders, sir?"
"Mr. Laforge, I need you to climb into the warp core."

"Congratulations, you passed your command test."

Nothus Infelix posted:

Since I just watched it, "Hollow Pursuits" establishes there is no rule against making holodeck facsimiles of coworkers and attacking them with swords, though Riker felt it was against protocol. It might fall under some general "respect for superior officers" rule. They apparently don't monitor it at all, although your boss can walk into the holodeck at any time. I think in a later episode Leah Brahms even replays one of Geordi's programs, complete with her facsimile's verbal responses. So theoretically, if you kill your coworker in the holodeck, the same coworker can replay your murder fantasy at any time.

I also just saw David Rappaport's scenes as Kivas Fajo. I had no idea he was a dwarf.

He made the mistake of hitting save on that Utopia Planetia file instead of save as.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 02:38

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Powered Descent posted:

It's been remarked that cramming a thousand people into a starship and keeping them all happy and productive for years on end would be almost as big a miracle as warp drive.

The difference is that warp drive (like most of the other technological miracles) shows a plausible amount of infrastructure and effort to keep it going. Engineering takes up half the ship, and a big chunk of the crew specializes in keeping it all humming along. Things need active repair and maintenance. It makes sense.

And maintaining all the social harmony is... Troi, I guess? Even if she sees ten people a day, it'd take her months to get around to everyone on the ship one time. And she seems to spend most of her time hanging around the bridge, not talking to people. There's nothing behind the sociological miracle, and so it doesn't really ring true.

And then on the other hand, people complain that the D was a luxury liner. A lot of what we see in TNG - nice quarters, crew having hobbies, plays, recitals, recreation areas and gyms and parks and spouses - were specifically put in to address the issue, with the idea that we'd handle it by taking an entire chunk of civilisation with us.

TNG should've had a promenade. But space and budget.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jun 29, 2017

# ? Jun 29, 2017 02:59

Orv: May 4, 2011

FredMSloniker posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTpBN6jKa4

Voyager's finest moment.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:01

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Axanar's former CTO released the entire (awful) script because he's sick of Alec Peters' bullshit.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:14

Winifred Madgers: Feb 12, 2002

thexerox123 posted:

I've started watching Babylon 5 for the first time recently... halfway through season 2 already. I'm kicking myself for not watching it sooner, so drat good.

The Unlife Aquatic posted:

Same.

I really enjoy how cohesive it feels. The fact one person wrote the vast majority of the scripts really shows. It helps that Straczynski's dialogue is really snappy.

Come join us in the Babylon 5 thread if you haven't already. It's always enjoyable following along vicariously with someone's first time.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:28

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Orv posted:

Just 24/7 non-stop off camera fuckin'.

Especially with the fish dudes.

A popular retreat aboard the Enterprise is the Holorgy Chamber; in this spacious, well-appointed holodeck, crew members and holograms entwine in ceaseless sensuous, erotic play. All sorts of toys and tricks are replicated at one's fingertips, and every metric of one's sexual being is shifting as whim; all possibilities of avatar exist within the Holorgy Chamber. From gender through species to composition of matter, every sexual avenue is given form for exploration in this debauched dionysian hall of projections.

Mr. Roddenberry, this is a McDonald's Drive-Thru

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:29

TheScott2K: Oct 26, 2003; I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Baronjutter posted:

Holodecks solve everything.

So much cum

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:31

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

TheScott2K posted:

So much cum

my idea of pleasure is waves and waves and waves of cum exploding out of me.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:32

Winifred Madgers: Feb 12, 2002

Trip report: DS9 season 2, episode 22 "The Wire"

If this were B5, Garak's addiction and recovery would have been an arc in episodes throughout half a season. But, this is Star Trek. Still, a Garak episode's a Garak episode.

Episode 23 "Crossover"

Well, it happened. The first mirror universe episode. This one wasn't bad, but with them killing off Odo and Quark I get the feeling the writers weren't really planning on coming back to it later on.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:34

thexerox123: Aug 17, 2007

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

Come join us in the Babylon 5 thread if you haven't already. It's always enjoyable following along vicariously with someone's first time.

I went there first, but then found that there were untagged spoilers on Page 1, so I decided to leave until I've watched the show.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:34

Winifred Madgers: Feb 12, 2002

thexerox123 posted:

I went there first, but then found that there were untagged spoilers on Page 1, so I decided to leave until I've watched the show.

Yeah, I suppose that is a drawback for posting about a 25 year old show. Still, we wouldn't mind some drive-by trip reports if you've got 'em, or save them up for when you're done if you want.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 03:41

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

Trip report: DS9 season 2, episodes 20-21, "The Maquis"

This Vulcan member of the Maquis is just everything wrong with TNG-era Vulcans. I'm sure you could write a Vulcan character who finds it logical to do what she's doing, that's not the problem, although I kept waiting for her to be revealed as a Romulan agent sowing chaos and discord, especially after her failed mind meld attempt.

But no, she's just a Vulcan, and played in the worst way, as blasé and hopelessly naive. I mean can you imagine if, for example, Spock or Sarek had coldly, logically decided to start killing people? They'd be terrifying.

That's been pretty standard characterization for Vulcans all the way to TOS, remember Valeris? She made the cold calculation that Klingons would most likely be unreliable and untrustworthy allies and helping them now was too big a risk that they might become too strong and decide to destroy the Federation later (and the events of Yesterday's Enterprise showed that she was completely correct, only a fluke self-sacrificial intervention by a Federation ship that happened to be near a Romulan attack kept the political situation in the Federation's favor). So she logically allied with Klingon hardliners to try to assassinate the leaders of both countries to start a hot war that would kill billions of people but that the Federation would definitely win because the Praxis disaster temporarily crippled the Klingon Empire, rather than take the risk they might lose a future war. And the only reason she didn't succeed completely was her emotional decision to not kill Kirk and Spock in sickbay when they discovered her involvement in the conspiracy. Spock even tells her killing them immediately is the logical thing to do.

That was pretty much Spock's entire character arc: learning that pure logic without compassion is loving horrific, that's what he tried to teach Valeris, and that's the entire reason he pushed so hard to get the Federation to reach out for peace even though he admitted the hardliners who wanted to attack immediately had logic on their side.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 04:06

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turn left hillary!! noo posted:

Trip report: DS9 season 2, episode 22 "The Wire"

If this were B5, Garak's addiction and recovery would have been an arc in episodes throughout half a season. But, this is Star Trek. Still, a Garak episode's a Garak episode.

Episode 23 "Crossover"

Well, it happened. The first mirror universe episode. This one wasn't bad, but with them killing off Odo and Quark I get the feeling the writers weren't really planning on coming back to it later on.

I actually appreciate how they have serial plots but they package things up so you can actually watch a loving episode and it's like: This is a story! It completed!

# ? Jun 29, 2017 04:17

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

VitalSigns posted:

And the only reason she didn't succeed completely was her emotional decision to not kill Kirk and Spock in sickbay when they discovered her involvement in the conspiracy. Spock even tells her killing them immediately is the logical thing to do.

Spock slapping the phaser away is so great, much like most of that movie.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 04:35

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Brawnfire posted:

A popular retreat aboard the Enterprise is the Holorgy Chamber

Maybe that was Barclay's problem; he read it wrong and spent his free time in the Horology Chamber learning to repair watches. No wonder he was so much less relaxed than the rest of the crew.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 04:51

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Worf should keep his hair messed up like this, it looks better.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:48

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Watching The Bonding. Troi gets to be useless by telling Picard to beam the away team up 1 second before they request a beam-up. I'm not sure what injury exactly the makeup on the dead away team member's head is supposed to be showing.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:49

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Speaking of hair, Troi looks like she has mustache stubble :stare:

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:51

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Speaking of hair, Troi looks like she has mustache stubble

Don't worry, Marina, it won't show up when transferred to VHS.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:52

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

gently caress the dead away team member left an orphan. At least it goes against the idea of dead crew members being disposable and immediately forgotten. TNG's actually been pretty good about that through the whole run so far. I heard TOS isn't.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:53

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Artistic shot

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:55

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The gently caress is Worf doing heating a dagger over a candle.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:56

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

For the super serious Klingon ceremony he read about in his Klingon books as a kid on Earth.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:57

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

PIcard: "I've always believed that carrying children on a starship... is a very questionable policy."

Yeah no poo poo.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:57

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Jeb! Repetition posted:

The gently caress is Worf doing heating a dagger over a candle.

It's said that many of the scripts had a space that was just (TECH) for the nerds to fill in later.

I suspect Worf had (KLINGON) sections.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 06:58

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Aaaaaaah THE FEELS

# ? Jun 29, 2017 07:02

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I want some of that grapefruit juice.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 07:03

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I think Riker's implying to a confused Data that he hosed the dead archaeologist.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 07:05

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Whoa another artistic Worf shot.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 07:07

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The grid-light set they're in is cool and I don't think I've seen it before.

# ? Jun 29, 2017 07:09

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

The kid is accepting his mom's death way too well and it ties in with the discussion folks have been having ITT about just how much the future will help us deal with social and emotional problems.

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Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Ho gently caress

# ? Jun 29, 2017 07:19

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