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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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baka kaba posted:This is probably what yr Tory Facebook friends are going for when they blame Labour though - they're not talking about Grenfell, they want it to be a widespread long-term problem that also indicts Labour councils and Labour governments Yeah I saw a bunch of stuff on facebook trying to blame Corbyn because he voted against putting sprinklers into pre-existing blocks in '05, which is lovely but redeemable if it was because of wanting a single piece of legislation that says they should be in all blocks old and new, which is rather different to conservative ministers saying they don't want to spook off builders with extra costs and that sprinkler companies, in the spirit of a free market, will have to make a case to convince builders to not turn their products into giant death-traps. Corbyn might have just been a poo poo though 
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I know the parallels have already been drawn but this really is an episode of the thick of it. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/28/public-sector-pay-cap-could-be-lifted-downing-street-hints
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Pissflaps posted:Fylingdales is miles away from anywhere though. I've always been pretty lucky with landlords. Our landlord at Uni was a nice guy - he fixed stuff when we asked, and even helped us get around some of the extortionate agent's fees when renewing contracts etc. Since then I've always had landlords that have insisted on doing things by the book, approved repairs/replacements quickly, and for deposits have only ever deducted for things that I was legitimately liable for. Letting agencies can get hosed though - my last place I had to pay £200 to get my name on the contract (I replaced an existing tenant mid-term), a further £60 or something for a reference check, and a not small check-out fee.
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lohli posted:Yeah I saw a bunch of stuff on facebook trying to blame Corbyn because he voted against putting sprinklers into pre-existing blocks in '05, which is lovely but redeemable if it was because of wanting a single piece of legislation that says they should be in all blocks old and new, which is rather different to conservative ministers saying they don't want to spook off builders with extra costs and that sprinkler companies, in the spirit of a free market, will have to make a case to convince builders to not turn their products into giant death-traps. Looks like this didn't happen. Here's the source, citing this statutory instrument. A few points to note: I can't see anything about fire sprinklers in there; statutory instruments aren't actually voted on in Parliament; Jeremy Corbyn still didn't show up that day. So yeah, not even a bit true. Borrovan fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 07:46
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baka kaba posted:This is probably what yr Tory Facebook friends are going for when they blame Labour though - they're not talking about Grenfell, they want it to be a widespread long-term problem that also indicts Labour councils and Labour governments The Tories are exactly mirroring Peter Manion from the thick of it, pushing for an inquiry to be as wide as possible to deflect the focus from the fact that their policies have killed someone.
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Jun 29, 2017 07:49
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Hey at least they'll finally have a reason to sort everything out, learn some hard truths. https://politicalscrapbook.net/2017/06/chairman-of-governments-new-grenfell-panel-pushed-ministers-to-cut-fire-service-funding-by-200m/ quote:The man advising the Government on its response to the Grenfell Tower disaster argued in favour of cuts to fire service funding and against fitting sprinklers to tower blocks. Sounds like a sensible pick, how could this guy possibly not be independent?
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Jun 29, 2017 07:57
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Surely they could find a building that's just been finished or even in the middle of being clad right now, check the approved plans and specifications, find out whether the cladding is as per the specification, who ordered and supplied the cladding, and whether it was installed as designed and who inspected it. I mean it should be straight forward enough to find out all this about Grenfell specifically, but an in progress development could be pretty insightful. Though in the same breath its close to all becoming about the cladding while there may well have been, and likely was, much more wrong at Grenfell.
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Jun 29, 2017 08:36
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https://twitter.com/garystreeterSWD/status/880149802876534787 no trial
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Jun 29, 2017 08:51
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Well you see if lots of people have failed to do their jobs at all levels, then is it really anybody's fault? It's like people never grew out of "teacher can't punish everybody if nobody does their homework".
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Jun 29, 2017 08:52
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OK, which one of you is this: https://twitter.com/BBCTees/status/879976888286027776
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Jun 29, 2017 08:56
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Pissflaps, obv.
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Watch these in order (warning: contains Piers Morgan) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVExq6zHOXA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H1BdW-Qy7I
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kanonvandekempen posted:Watch these in order (warning: contains Piers Morgan) Absolutely not
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Absolutely not It also contains Susanna Reid.
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The Mail has taken an interesting approach to yesterdays events, in that they've presented the end of the public sector cap as a downing street idea, not reported on the details of the Labour amendment instead just describing the vote purely as a attempt to sabotage the Queens speech without even mentioning it was about the end to the cap, and holding Hammond completely responsible for blocking any talk of an end to the cap.
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Praseodymi posted:It also contains Susanna Reid. Fair point, she is pretty well
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Skinty McEdger posted:The Mail has taken an interesting approach to yesterdays events, in that they've presented the end of the public sector cap as a downing street idea, not reported on the details of the Labour amendment instead just describing the vote purely as a attempt to sabotage the Queens speech without even mentioning it was about the end to the cap, and holding Hammond completely responsible for blocking any talk of an end to the cap. So lying about literally everything.
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kanonvandekempen posted:Watch these in order (warning: contains Piers Morgan) Reid is great and it's a shame that she's playing second fiddle to Morgan, I much preferred seeing her working with Bill Turnbull, as tepid/mild as he was he was a decent interviewer/presenter and at worst was a bit boring instead of being annoyingly overbearing like Morgan is. The show seems mostly about Piers Morgan being opinionated to the detriment of the viewers and everyone around him.
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lohli posted:The show seems mostly about Piers Morgan being opinionated to the detriment of the viewers and everyone around him.
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icantfindaname posted:http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2017/06/harry-potter-gay-porn-hermione-ginny How did someone get paid to write this article which says absolutely nothing. "Once upon a time there was some harry potter erotics but even at an early age I was too hardcore for it, the end." new statesmen send check please.
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Jun 29, 2017 09:38
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josh04 posted:How did someone get paid to write this article which says absolutely nothing. "Once upon a time there was some harry potter erotics but even at an early age I was too hardcore for it, the end." new statesmen send check please.
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Jun 29, 2017 09:45
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NI executive deadline is 4pm today - talks went into the early hours of the morning and are due to pick up again this morning but there's an air of pessimism, a stand alone Irish Language Act remains the key sticking point. Also Court of Appeal due to rule on DoJ's appeal against the high court ruling that NIs abortion laws are incompatible with human rights sometime today And all going to plan the commons will vote on the amendment to allow NI women free access to abortion services on the English NHS. Busy enough day
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Jun 29, 2017 09:58
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? does it matter? Blair's Labour was as bad as the Tories
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Kurtofan posted:does it matter? Blair's Labour was as bad as the Tories This is nonsense. Blair's labour was responsible for massive investment in public services and wealth redistribution. The stuff that the Tories have spent the last eight years dismantling.
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Pissflaps posted:This is nonsense. Blair's labour was responsible for massive investment in public services and wealth redistribution. The stuff that the Tories have spent the last eight years dismantling. That's balanced out by Blair's greater propensity for committing war crimes.
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JFairfax posted:so I hear the third most important person in the Catholic Church is probably a pedo. The Holy Ghost?
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kustomkarkommando posted:And all going to plan the commons will vote on the amendment to allow NI women free access to abortion services on the English NHS. I thought that was unlikely to get picked for a vote?
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Jun 29, 2017 10:32
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dispatch_async posted:I thought that was unlikely to get picked for a vote? According to the Graun Bercow is undecided on his final picks, so we could see something amazing happen.
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Jun 29, 2017 10:33
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gently caress Tony Blair in particuar, but fukken lol if you think the Tories wouldn't have hosed us even harder or done anything different with Iraq.
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lohli posted:I much preferred seeing her working with Bill Turnbull, as tepid/mild as he was he was a decent interviewer/presenter and at worst was a bit boring instead of being annoyingly overbearing like Morgan is.
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dispatch_async posted:I thought that was unlikely to get picked for a vote? Its picked up a huge number of signatures and there's been a fair amount of discussion on it in the commons. Speaker can only select 4 including the leader of the oppositions amendment (I don't know if last night's vote is counted tbh) and it seems well placed based on support But then again that's no guarantee as there's a couple of other with traction; there's the main Labour amendment, an SNP & Plaid joint one and a backbench labour one about "no deal" stuff - but the abortion amendment has picked up the most signatures by far. There's also a lib dem one about the single market signed by all the lib dems so the speaker could defer to that I geuss
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Jun 29, 2017 10:44
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If I remember right any selected amendments outside of the leader of the oppositions are voted on without debate in a quick fire batch at the end
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https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/880361042152435712 The SNP single market one not selected.
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kustomkarkommando posted:There's also a lib dem one about the single market signed by all the lib dems so the speaker could defer to that I geuss
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Cerebral Bore posted:That's balanced out by Blair's greater propensity for committing war crimes. The only separation between Blairs war crimes and this government's lack of them is opportunity.
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Here's the text of the Chuka amendment, which has no chance I reckon. https://twitter.com/ParlyApp/status/880361848054439936 Stella's on the other hand... https://twitter.com/ParlyApp/status/880361438753300480 TheHoodedClaw fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Holy poo poo. My parrot heard Piers Morgan on those videos and went absolutely batshit insane with anger and rage.
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