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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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feedmegin posted:It was in the Queen's Speech. She is not, in fact, an absolute monarch and cannot just abolish letting fees by saying so; Parliament has to legislate to make it so. That's good to hear it's going ahead. They originally announced some time last year.
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peanut- posted:Didn't the Tories promise to make this poo poo illegal? Did that just get shoved by the wayside? "Proposed ban on fees for tenants In November 2016, the government announced in its Autumn Statement that it plans to ban letting agent fees for tenants. No timetable has been set for the new law needed to stop letting agents charging tenants." No timetable.... https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/private_renting/letting_agent_fees_for_tenants What are they saying the fees are for? Is it a holding fee? Make sure you'll get it back if your application is unsuccessful...
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Jun 29, 2017 12:36
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I'd hope that even more pro-life MPs can see the need to mitigate the harm caused by NI's blanket ban. As I understand it even underage victims of rape or incest cannot access abortion under those laws.
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Jun 29, 2017 12:39
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Its bollocks, either the agent or the landlord or both will increase rents accordingly to maintain the current level of profitability. The only solution has been and always will be more social housing, preferably not flammable.
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Jun 29, 2017 12:41
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learnincurve posted:Holy poo poo. My parrot heard Piers Morgan on those videos and went absolutely batshit insane with anger and rage. Animals are too good for this world
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Jun 29, 2017 12:42
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Serene Dragon posted:Brutal. I really don't know why May wants to stay on as PM, she's getting battered at every turn. She's shielding britian from marxism
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Jun 29, 2017 12:45
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Seaside Loafer posted:Its bollocks, either the agent or the landlord or both will increase rents accordingly to maintain the current level of profitability. When agents are only able to charge landlords, competition to attract landlords should result in a lowering of fees, as Landlords will want to find agencies that will minimise their expenses (or at least provide services that justify their fees. More cynically, of course, they'll all de facto agree to keep them equally high and those costs will get passed on to the tenant through higher rents. Either way - it is a law that is good and should be pursued, but for it to be properly effective it also needs to be in a wider context with greater control on rents and the rental market more generally. Unfortunately, a lot of MPs are landlords, so good luck getting much through Parliament... £520 is loving ridiculous and that agency deserves an email specifying that. You did good. Ewan fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 12:47
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Seaside Loafer posted:Its bollocks, either the agent or the landlord or both will increase rents accordingly to maintain the current level of profitability. The only solution has been and always will be more social housing, preferably not flammable. It seems like one of very few Tory policies that would go down reasonably well (even if it probably wouldn't make a huge splash), so it's hilarious that they haven't been able to get any movement on it since its original proposal a year ago. Speaks to their dysfunction, I suppose. waffle fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 12:49
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Seaside Loafer posted:Its bollocks, either the agent or the landlord or both will increase rents accordingly to maintain the current level of profitability. The only solution has been and always will be Fixed. Although without radical change from above or below, the only solution seems to be housing cooperatives where the stock is held in common, and the only people with the capital and will to do something like that at present seem to be the Quakers.
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Jun 29, 2017 12:51
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Seaside Loafer posted:Its bollocks, either the agent or the landlord or both will increase rents accordingly to maintain the current level of profitability. The only solution has been and always will be more social housing, preferably not flammable. Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure there is evidence to suggest (from areas where letting fees are banned i.e Scotland) that rents haven't risen as a result.
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Jun 29, 2017 12:59
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'd hope that even more pro-life MPs can see the need to mitigate the harm caused by NI's blanket ban. As I understand it even underage victims of rape or incest cannot access abortion under those laws. Prepare to be disappointed then, anti-abortion types don't care about harm prevention, they just hate women.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:02
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Its a ' Need somewhere to live? Pay up chump  ' fee
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Jun 29, 2017 13:03
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/grenfell-survivors-barred-from-council-meeting-about-firequote:Survivors of the Grenfell Tower disaster have been banned from the first meeting of senior councillors since the fire amid fears of “disruption”. 
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Jun 29, 2017 13:10
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Guavanaut posted:Fixed. Although without radical change from above or below, the only solution seems to be housing cooperatives where the stock is held in common, and the only people with the capital and will to do something like that at present seem to be the Quakers. the uk has a land monopoly?
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Jun 29, 2017 13:10
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https://twitter.com/gordonrayner/status/880366369665159170 May be some folding to hold off back bench jitters
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Jun 29, 2017 13:11
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communism bitch posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/grenfell-survivors-barred-from-council-meeting-about-fire theyre going to get themselves arsoned and nobody is going to feel sorry for them
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Jun 29, 2017 13:11
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Have to see if it keeps up, but Labour are presenting a very effective opposition at the moment. They're pushing the government into multiple situations that forces them to trade off short-term power with their long-term electoral prospects. Also just letting Tories be Tories, such as the cheer at the end of the vote on public sector pay yesterday, an unforced situation which makes it clear they are massive shits with zero integrity. That contrasts with Labour not cheering JC on his way into PMQs yesterday. Clearly deliberate and to provide a contrast. Reckon we'll see Tories cheering successfully blocking NI women access to abortions later?
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Jun 29, 2017 13:11
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Spangly A posted:theyre going to get themselves arsoned and nobody is going to feel sorry for them
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Jun 29, 2017 13:12
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The University of Manchester just gave George Osborne a honorary Professorship in Economics... To whom do I complain? Not only have his policies directly made thousands of lives worse and shouldn't be rewarded, austerity also isn't sound economics. e: ahahaha, look at this absolute wank of a press release we got: quote:Since leaving government, Mr Osborne has remained committed to this idea as chair of the Northern Powerhouse Partnership, the membership of which includes the University’s President and Vice-Chancellor, Professor Dame Nancy Rothwell. What are job training programmes? Apprenticeships? Scholarships? No, what we need are Innovative Thinking™ and Thought-Provoking Events® quote:He said: “I am bowled over by this honour. The University of Manchester was at the centre of so many things I tried to achieve as Chancellor, from the promotion of new science to the building of the links between this country and countries like China. It is also one of the jewels in the crown of the Northern Powerhouse. [...] Lunar Suite fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 13:12
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communism bitch posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/grenfell-survivors-barred-from-council-meeting-about-fire I hope all the survivors and other protestors go along anyway. How dare they hide from their sins.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:15
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I'm going to laugh until I poo poo my pants if Creasy is successful. Couldn't think of a better thing to go for an early upset with. Not always been her biggest fan but it's noble, and topical. She was on Sky News earlier and I think she mentioned she had several Tories who were willing to either abstain or vote with her. Don't know if it's the 7 (?) needed for an upset.Lunar Suite posted:The University of Manchester just gave George Osborne a honorary Professorship in Economics... He did a pretty good job putting more money into UK universities! number one pta fan fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 13:19
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Some Labour will abstain or vote against so it's gonna be a tough vote. Wonder if Tim Farron will prove us all lairs and vote for it
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Jun 29, 2017 13:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htZTb-MILjA For those that like the economist Mark Blyth, here's a good talk along with Michael Roberts, another economist with Marxist leanings. A lot of what they talk about is global economics, but there are lots of bits about the UK economy (specifically that we don't really have one any more, we just survive on housing bubbles) and also a nice bit about Corbyn right at the end from Mark. e: another positive take away from this video is that career politicians aren't ideological and could shift to socialist policies if that's where the votes are The DPRK fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 13:23
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I'm really confused by the idea that there are labour MPs who would rather vote against abortion once than be in government and vote against abortion forever
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Jun 29, 2017 13:23
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The Tories will prop up the corpse of Theresa May in Weekend at Bernie-style rather than run a leadership election or another general election now. She's lashed to the mast by the party and if she's battered to a pulp there, oh well.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:28
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Spangly A posted:I'm really confused by the idea that there are labour MPs who would rather vote against abortion once than be in government and vote against abortion forever Maybe it's against their principles ?
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Jun 29, 2017 13:40
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The cross-Atlantic synchronicity will kick in and the Labour party will devolve into the Dirtbag Hard Left and the Moderate-Caths.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:45
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Rincewinds posted:The Holy Ghost? no - basically, he is the 3rd most important representative of god on earth and he likes to abuse kids, and cover up for other child abusers. VATICAN CITY Australian police announced Thursday they are pursuing charges against Cardinal George Pell over allegations of historic sexual abuse against minors, bringing the decades-long clergy sexual abuse crisis directly to the Vatican for the first time and placing pressure on Pope Francis to oust one of his closest advisors. "Police have charged Cardinal George Pell with historical sexual assault offenses," Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton of the Australian state of Victoria announced. "Cardinal Pell has been charged on summons and he is required to appear at the Melbourne Magistrates Court on July 18 this year for a filing hearing." "Cardinal Pell is facing multiple charges in respect of historic sexual offenses and there are multiple complainants relating to those charges," Patton continued. .. The charges also mark a stunning cap to Pell’s storied career. The cardinal, 76, has long been the highest ranking Australian Catholic prelate, leading the archdioceses of both Melbourne and Sydney before being called to Rome by Francis in 2014 to serve as the Vatican’s number-three official. Pell also serves on the pope's nine-member Council of Cardinals, which is advising the pontiff on reforming the Vatican bureaucracy. https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/cardinal-pell-charged-police-historic-allegations-sexual-abuse
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Jun 29, 2017 13:47
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JFairfax posted:Pell also serves on the pope's nine-member Council of Cardinals, which is advising the pontiff on reforming the Vatican bureaucracy. "for the last time, cardinel pell, we can't sort out our finances by legalising child prostitution"
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Jun 29, 2017 13:49
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communism bitch posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/29/grenfell-survivors-barred-from-council-meeting-about-fire Can't have the oiks and foreigners disrupt the discussion on how to turn this into a PR win for the council! First on the table, who outside of the meeting is to blame for it all.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:50
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https://twitter.com/stellacreasy/status/880406951158583296 GOVERNMENT IN WAITING
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JFairfax posted:before being called to Rome by Francis in 2014 to serve as the Vatican’s number-three official.
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number one pta fan posted:https://twitter.com/stellacreasy/status/880406951158583296
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Jun 29, 2017 13:56
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The Grime Minister strikes again.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:57
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TBF Cardinal Pell strongly denies the charges.
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Jun 29, 2017 14:00
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So Corbs just has to ask for the nationalisation of all housing and the formation of Workers' and Peasants' Soviets and May will just do it now? 
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Jun 29, 2017 14:00
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I mean that's to be expected, I don't know of a pedophile who when accused and taken to court has been like 'no it was totally me, I love loving kids'
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Jun 29, 2017 14:01
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He's coming home  https://youtu.be/EtHOmforqxk
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Jun 29, 2017 14:01
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JFairfax posted:I mean that's to be expected, I don't know of a pedophile who when accused and taken to court has been like 'no it was totally me, I love loving kids' Charged=guilty? Really?
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