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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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in other news... https://twitter.com/JackHardy9/status/880476473886474240
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Jun 29, 2017 18:39
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Remember that there's no cover up attempt. This is just government ineptitude.
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Jun 29, 2017 18:42
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what are those loving pissants doing sitting on their phones instead of breaking into the building journalists today smh
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communism bitch posted:Remember that there's no cover up attempt. This is just government ineptitude. ¿Por qué no los dos?
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Jun 29, 2017 18:44
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That's clearly an unsealed draft order.
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Jun 29, 2017 18:44
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waffle posted:Also from Waugh: They whipped to abstain. Technically not whipping but at the same time it's practically a whip nonetheless.
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Jun 29, 2017 18:45
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Night10194 posted:Wait, you guys just fire legislators who don't hold to the party whip? What happens to their seat? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_collective_responsibility
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Jun 29, 2017 18:47
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Hmm, the optics on the SM amendment are interesting. OTOH having Creasy withdraw her amendment (loving boo!) and Labour rebelling with sackings on their own amendment is like the first poor showing for Labour since the election was called. OTOH while Creasey was trying to make the tories look poo poo to women, Chuka I think was trying to do the same but to the business class. Its possible it was meant divide Labour in classic anti-corbz labour style, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think the whip was kinda stupid but if firing these people lets Corbz shuffle house thats alright, it does signify to the business class that Labour is the only viable English party that could potentially keep the UK in the single market since it seems to have quite a few members who would fight for that and absolutely no tories. I think if Labour's really gonna win the next election it needs to broaden its base, it'll probably pick up more young people and not-rich-bastards, but as long as things don't devolve into outright war this kind of measured ambivalence could end up picking them up some of the rich bastards who are more scared of brexit than they are of renationalised railways, if Labour can also make the case that strong public infrastructure is hugely cost-saving for SME businesses they could end up sapping a lot of Tory support unexpectedly. FWIW I would infinitely prefer staying in the EU and fighting for socialism/just non-shitness across Europe but that doesn't seem to be on offer barring some VERY specific events. I'd much rather have Corbyn's Labour when we go it alone than the Conservatives though, if he by some quirk ended up straightforwardly undertaking brexit as PM without a very good plan I'd probably not like that very much thoug.
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Good to see Jezza laying down the law. Also, scummy RBKC news https://twitter.com/susana_mendonca/status/880484521426268160 forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 18:53
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Single market means free movement, which is the most achievable (it already exists!) way of improving the lives of underprivileged people throughout Europe. Disappointing to see it sacrificed in favour of some theoretical future nationalist labour government
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quote:At end add 'but respectfully regret that the Gracious Speech does not rule out withdrawal from the EU without a deal, guarantee a Parliamentary vote on any final outcome to negotiations, set out transitional arrangements to maintain jobs, trade and certainty for business, set out proposals to remain within the Customs Union and Single Market, set out clear measures to respect the competencies of the devolved administrations, and include clear protections for EU nationals living in the UK now, including retaining their right to remain in the UK, and reciprocal rights for UK citizens.'. Can anybody tell me which part of this goes against Labour policy? I'm pretty sure each part was in Labour's manifesto.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:08
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pointsofdata posted:Single market means free movement, which is the most achievable (it already exists!) way of improving the lives of underprivileged people throughout Europe. Disappointing to see it sacrificed in favour of some theoretical future nationalist labour government Okay sure it's an actually existing tool but it's a pretty pisspoor one compared to any action the EU could take if it was a state. It's not like British people are happy having to move to London to get quality work; I can't imagine that Eastern Europeans or Spanish teens are really any happier.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:10
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forkboy84 posted:Good to see Jezza laying down the law. https://twitter.com/ConnorGillies/status/880485304410546181
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Jun 29, 2017 19:11
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Private Speech posted:It's funny how much this thread moved towards a pro-brexit stance since the referendum. With my view of "even the libdem stance is wayy too Eurosceptic" (much as I understand the political realities of anti-immigration sentiment and Brexit happening no matter what) I feel pretty lonely here these days. This is me.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:13
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namesake posted:Okay sure it's an actually existing tool but it's a pretty pisspoor one compared to any action the EU could take if it was a state. I mean they do it so most must think it's better than their existing alternatives. And some people do want to live in London! It's got a lot going for it like a vibrant cultural scene, a large LGBT community, lots of good universities, is safer for women and minorities than most other cities, interesting and varied jobs.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:14
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Haha gently caress that went badly, everyone involved is gonna have to resign soon
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Jun 29, 2017 19:15
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Private Speech posted:It's funny how much this thread moved towards a pro-brexit stance since the referendum. With my view of "even the libdem stance is wayy too Eurosceptic" (much as I understand the political realities of anti-immigration sentiment and Brexit happening no matter what) I feel pretty lonely here these days. Yeah it's sad. The EU does a lot of good and we could still nationalise the railways if we wanted to. Also lol https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/880477525306216448
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Jun 29, 2017 19:16
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That's a good one form Farage, to be fair.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:18
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loving hell. I don't even know how they can be so incompetent. No wonder the Robert Atkinson was giving Paget-Brown an earful, what a horrible force. Their response to a horrific disaster has been non-existent. Just cowering from the public & from the press & trying their damnedest to avoid taking any responsibility. It's galling. Utter bastards.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:19
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forkboy84 posted:loving hell. I don't even know how they can be so incompetent. No wonder the Robert Atkinson was giving Paget-Brown an earful, what a horrible force. Their response to a horrific disaster has been non-existent. Just cowering from the public & from the press & trying their damnedest to avoid taking any responsibility. It's galling. Utter bastards. Don't even have it in them to resign, just trying to ride it out. Awful.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:21
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So if they're legally obligated to allow the press into meetings, and the council leaders won't hold a meeting with the press there, then they'll end up never holding any meetings at all? This is really not going to go down well at all.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:21
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Julio Cruz posted:So if they're legally obligated to allow the press into meetings, and the council leaders won't hold a meeting with the press there, then they'll end up never holding any meetings at all? This is really not going to go down well at all. They're successfully emulating the Theresa May response to any actual issue whatsoever.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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pointsofdata posted:Yeah it's sad. The EU does a lot of good and we could still nationalise the railways if we wanted to. tibfjc
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Jun 29, 2017 19:31
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Julio Cruz posted:So if they're legally obligated to allow the press into meetings, and the council leaders won't hold a meeting with the press there, then they'll end up never holding any meetings at all? Sir Humprey would be proud.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:43
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blowfish posted:tibfjc it's a good thing right? like there's a lot more ukippers who hang on his every word than remainers who give a poo poo what he says right?
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communism bitch posted:Remember that there's no cover up attempt. This is just government ineptitude. Heh, never attribute to malice what yovbcvjhstipdty!!!!!!!!  Private Speech posted:It's funny how much this thread moved towards a pro-brexit stance since the referendum. With my view of "even the libdem stance is wayy too Eurosceptic" (much as I understand the political realities of anti-immigration sentiment and Brexit happening no matter what) I feel pretty lonely here these days. Honestly I think pretty much everyone in here is anti-Brexit, even the few who think we'll come out of it ok. What's changed since the referendum is that a democratic decision was taken, public sentiment swung heavily towards going ahead with it, and the Tories gained huge amounts of support by framing themselves The Champions of Brexit, stoking nationalism, and promising the moon on a stick That makes it a complex situation, where taking a principled but purely symbolic stance could hurt Labour's chances of actually having the power to influence things. Most people are pro Labour being smart about this, instead of providing a convenient distraction and scapegoat while the Tories cling to power and gently caress things up unhindered
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Jun 29, 2017 19:45
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a meeting that never happened still puts out a prepared statement: https://twitter.com/RBKC/status/880495105559457792 quote:Statement by Cllr Nicholas Paget-Brown
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Jun 29, 2017 19:46
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There is a labour MP called Slaughter? If so, nobody on earth has ever been more in need of a peerage.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:48
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OwlFancier posted:There is a labour MP called Slaughter? MP for Hammersmith, I believe.
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Spangly A posted:what are those loving pissants doing sitting on their phones instead of breaking into the building Court order for breaking and entering i think not
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pointsofdata posted:I mean they do it so most must think it's better than their existing alternatives. And some people do want to live in London! It's got a lot going for it like a vibrant cultural scene, a large LGBT community, lots of good universities, is safer for women and minorities than most other cities, interesting and varied jobs. lol
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Jun 29, 2017 19:53
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OwlFancier posted:There is a labour MP called Slaughter? Pfft, "Lord Slaughter" is no "Baroness Blood".
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Sarah Bellum posted:Pfft, "Lord Slaughter" is no "Baroness Blood". Neither of them are a patch on "Lady Garden".
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Jun 29, 2017 19:57
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OwlFancier posted:There is a labour MP called Slaughter? Andy Slaughter, who previously resigned from the Shadow Cabinet in June 2016.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:58
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OwlFancier posted:There is a labour MP called Slaughter? Surely some regiment in the army could do with an honourary Sergeant?
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Jun 29, 2017 19:59
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There's a Lady Garden? Baroness Blood is real. Rumour has it she's several centuries old, gone insane, and that peasant girls go mysteriously missing from her employ. Rumours that I started just now, on this forum.
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Julio Cruz posted:Neither of them are a patch on "Lady Garden". Less suggestive, but Lord Judge is also amusing
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