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Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
:toot: Really happy about what happened in Germany today! Thanks RRG! :toot:

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Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Historisch betrachtet sind Respekt und Sachlichkeit suboptimale Strategien, wenn es zur Begegnung mit Leuten komme, die dich bestenfalls in Lager stecken möchten.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Randler posted:

Historisch betrachtet sind Respekt und Sachlichkeit suboptimale Strategien, wenn es zur Begegnung mit Leuten komme, die dich bestenfalls in Lager stecken möchten.
Bleib mal auf'm Teppich. I don't think dogboy wants to put anybody in any camps.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Cingulate posted:

Bleib mal auf'm Teppich. I don't think dogboy wants to put anybody in any camps.

Bro, why would you think I was referring to dogboy when I previously used somebody else as the goto example for that kind of people?

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Randler posted:

Bro, why would you think I was referring to dogboy when I previously used somebody else as the goto example for that kind of people?
Dogboy says something. People yell at dogboy. I say we shouldn't yell at people. You say you want to yell at botany cause he wants to put you in a camp. I say dogboy doesn't want to put you in a camp.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Cingulate posted:

Dogboy says something. People yell at dogboy. I say we shouldn't yell at people. You say you want to yell at botany cause he wants to put you in a camp. I say dogboy doesn't want to put you in a camp.

Okay, dann differenzieren wir das mal aus. Leute wie dogboy haben abweichende politische Meinungen, die sich im Rahmen dessen befinden, was eine Demokratie hinnehmen sollte. Leute wie botany sind dumpfe Extremisten, die das ganze System am liebsten noch heute abreißen und durch ihre kranken Ideologiekonstrukte ersetzen würden. Und deshalb müssen weder die Bürger noch der Staat sie tolerieren. Wehrhafte Demokratie und so.

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.
Nänä, wehrhafter Kapitalismus und so

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Randler posted:

Okay, dann differenzieren wir das mal aus. Leute wie dogboy haben abweichende politische Meinungen, die sich im Rahmen dessen befinden, was eine Demokratie hinnehmen sollte. Leute wie botany sind dumpfe Extremisten, die das ganze System am liebsten noch heute abreißen und durch ihre kranken Ideologiekonstrukte ersetzen würden. Und deshalb müssen weder die Bürger noch der Staat sie tolerieren. Wehrhafte Demokratie und so.
Botany sieht das evtl anders.

Ich bin aber in diesem Kontext auch nicht so besorgt, dass botany marginalisiert wird, weil unser Mitte-rechts-Threadmaskottchen ab und an was in seine Richtung insinuiert. Das ist doch für ihn ein Heimspiel.

Pand
Apr 1, 2011

Jogi Maldito

"in Lager stecken möchten" "dumpfe Extremisten"

:thunk:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

drat, are we getting some of that divine retribution for being nice to gay people that the Americans are always yammering about? It's been non-stop raining here for 24 hours straight now, and it doesn't look like it's about to let up tomorrow either. Starting to feel like England. :barf:

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Nono, you got that wrong.

God just realised that northern Germany was a mistake that needs to be corrected :smuggo:

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Freu dich nicht zu früh, das wird ja tatsächlich in den nächsten Jahrzehnten passieren.

goethe42
Jun 5, 2004

Ich sei, gewaehrt mir die Bitte, in eurem Bunde der Dritte!
Almost. I have it on good authority (friend of a friend who works in IT), that heaven was also affected by wannacry and due to the backlog it caused, they simply let anyone in for a short time. Thus it happened that god for the first time ever met a typical Berliner , turned around with a "gently caress you Noah, that wasn't part of the deal!" and pressed the "flush"-button. The rest of northern Germany is collateral damage.

dogboy
Jul 21, 2009

hurr
Grimey Drawer

Randler posted:

Okay, dann differenzieren wir das mal aus. Leute wie dogboy haben abweichende politische Meinungen, die sich im Rahmen dessen befinden, was eine Demokratie hinnehmen sollte. Leute wie botany sind dumpfe Extremisten, die das ganze System am liebsten noch heute abreißen und durch ihre kranken Ideologiekonstrukte ersetzen würden. Und deshalb müssen weder die Bürger noch der Staat sie tolerieren. Wehrhafte Demokratie und so.

"Wer vor seinem dreißigsten Lebensjahr niemals Sozialist war, hat kein Herz. Wer nach seinem dreißigsten Lebensjahr noch Sozialist ist, hat keinen Verstand."
- Benedetto Croce

Dieses Zitat gibt es in verschiedenen Variationen, "Sozialist" war vielleicht ~1880 passend aber ich würde wohl eher "Kommunist" wählen - ich wollte aber das original Zitat. Das konnte ich so in etwa bei mir und vielen anderen beobachten, und meine: Das gilt so in etwa auch für die Mehrheit der Bürger in Deutschland. Es ist glaube ich so eine Mixtur aus den "Sturm und Drang" des wütenden Kindes zu verlieren, und langsam Verantwortung aber auch Zufriedenheit und Gelassenheit aufzubauen. "Jetzt hier keine Aufregung mehr, nahezu optimal wie es so läuft und ich will jetzt keine Revolution."

Mein Verständnis von Gesellschaft ist, daß man zusammen mehr erreicht, als wenn man sich einzeln durchboxt. Dazu gehöhrt dann aber eben auch sowohl eine hohe Toleranz für andere Meinungen, als auch die Fähigkeit eigene für einen selber wichtige Standpunkte früh und prominent plaziert zu vertreten, ohne dabei polemisch zu werden - oder auch mal den Anwalt für jemanden oder eine Gruppe zu spielen, die sich nicht traut oder mehr Münder beim Demonstrieren braucht. Oder weil sie nicht jeden Tag 10h im Internet abhängt und noch gar nicht weiss, daß sie ein Problem hat.

Randler posted:

was eine Demokratie hinnehmen sollte.

Also ich finde nicht, daß man mich "hinnehmen" sollte. In einer Debatte im allgemeinen Wortsinn und in einer Demokratie im Speziellen fordere ich mein Recht ein, meine Meinung zu vertreten! Wenn mir alle Leute, die ich ernst nehme, dann sagen: "Du Depp!", nehme ich das aber dann auch ernst. Ein echtes aktuelles Problem ist, daß viele Leute einfach ausflippen und "kneejerk" Reaktionen wie Pegida oder so einen Quatsch machen, weil sie sich gemobbed oder marginalisiert fühlen.

(Nur Haarspalterei, ich denke mal du bist einer derjenigen diesem Faden mit dem man tatsächlich auch mal "Diskutieren" kann.)

[Kennt wahrscheinlich jeder] Don Alphonso erklärts besser: http://blogs.faz.net/stuetzen/2017/06/30/wertlos-konservativ-7937/

az
Dec 2, 2005

edit gently caress it dont care

az fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jun 30, 2017

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
ich mag den faden, ich lerne hier so viel über mich :allears:

az
Dec 2, 2005

botany posted:

ich mag den faden, ich lerne hier so viel über mich :allears:

I guess there must have been a mailer going around that I missed with your record of thought crimes :(

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

botany posted:

ich mag den faden, ich lerne hier so viel über mich :allears:

Randler right now :v::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKwj9JetfE8&feature=youtu.be&t=2m30s

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

az posted:

I guess there must have been a mailer going around that I missed with your record of thought crimes :(

you're not subscribed to my mailing list?! off to the camps you go


(before randler calls the verfassungsschutz on me, that was a joke. i do not actually have a mailing list. democracy lives to see another day.)

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
Randler wie hoch sollte Deiner Meinung nach die Erbschaftsteuer sein?

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
The German government made a correct decision today.
Now get rid of coal and bring back nuclear energy! :colbert:

Vulin
Jun 15, 2012
But without coal who is going to tear up the countryside and destroy villages that were around since the middle ages in the region here? :v:

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

botany posted:

you're not subscribed to my mailing list?! off to the camps you go


(before randler calls the verfassungsschutz on me, that was a joke. i do not actually have a mailing list. democracy lives to see another day.)

Botany don't put randler in the camp. he seems like he is really good with numbers, he can be your izhack stern and help you run them

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

Having her cake and eating it too.

Best chancellor of the 21st century right there.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

cant cook creole bream posted:

The German government made a correct decision today.
Now get rid of coal and bring back nuclear energy! :colbert:

Vulin posted:

But without coal who is going to tear up the countryside and destroy villages that were around since the middle ages in the region here? :v:

Suddenly I'm unsure. Normally, nuclear >>> coal, but on second thought, NPD-voting villages in the Ostzone getting bulldozed >>>>>> saving the planet :v:


breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat

Cingulate posted:

This is such a weird question. Where's this coming from? When I prepare to go to a new country, what I'm doing is figure out what the food is like. "What are your big social political problems?"

I'm a degenerate human being. And I already know "German" food is shite.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Die Storch kuckt immer so

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Bedshaped posted:

I'm a degenerate human being. And I already know "German" food is shite.

You'll fit right in nicely here. Welcome to Germany

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Bedshaped posted:

I'm a degenerate human being. And I already know "German" food is shite.
That makes the question all the more pressing. Don't do what I did - went to the UK, lost 7 pounds in 4 days cause everything was so disgusting.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Cingulate posted:

That makes the question all the more pressing. Don't do what I did - went to the UK, lost 7 pounds in 4 days cause everything was so disgusting.

Everything you say, all the posts you make are just so loving retarded. Are you like this in real life?

Dommolus Magnus
Feb 27, 2013

oliwan posted:

Everything you say, all the posts you make are just so loving retarded. Are you like this in real life?

Being disgusted by english food is perfectly natural, though! Frankly, it is the first time Cingulate has ever reacted like an actual human. ;)

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Hey, lieb sein zueinander.

Übrigens: Gibts hier bei uns in Europa sowas wie nen abschreckenden Effekt den die Wahl von Trump auf die Wählerschaft ausübt? So á la Erkenntnis, dass es vielleicht doch keine so gute Idee ist nicht wählen zu gehen oder nen kompletten Vollpfosten ans Steuer zu setzen?

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

oliwan posted:

Everything you say, all the posts you make are just so loving retarded. Are you like this in real life?
Woah woah woah. Let's take this down a step in intensity

JaucheCharly posted:

Hey, lieb sein zueinander.

Übrigens: Gibts hier bei uns in Europa sowas wie nen abschreckenden Effekt den die Wahl von Trump auf die Wählerschaft ausübt? So á la Erkenntnis, dass es vielleicht doch keine so gute Idee ist nicht wählen zu gehen oder nen kompletten Vollpfosten ans Steuer zu setzen?
There's a bunch of suggestions to this extent. E.g., https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-making-europe-liberal-again/

Google Europe + Trump + Elections, you'll find a bunch of articles on the topic.

I personally don't know. It sounds plausible, but hard to tell if true.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

You could probably draw a reasonable correlation between Trump being Trump and the AfD's dwindling support in the polls. Though then again that might as well be just to their regular old infighting, or the fact that the complete downfall of western society due to brown people they've been prophecising stubbornly refuses to materialise. :shrug:

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

oliwan posted:

Everything you say, all the posts you make are just so loving retarded. Are you like this in real life?

Lol if you think any British food besides maybe fish&chips can be considered good.

Literally gekochtes Wildschwein in Pfefferminzsoße und lauwarme Cervisia

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


AfD losing votes is 100% due to the refugee numbers dropping and nothing else. It's a single-issue party.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Also, Islamocalypse never happened as predicted. That usually turns people off doomsayers and charlatans (after the third or fourth time)

Uncle Kitchener
Nov 18, 2009

BALLSBALLSBALLSBALLS
BALLSBALLSBALLSBALLS
BALLSBALLSBALLSBALLS
BALLSBALLSBALLSBALLS

GaussianCopula posted:

https://twitter.com/HeikoMaas/status/880705567148445697


I hope no one is considering to vote for this person and/or his party.

Nobody would want to gently caress this dude, even his own reflection.

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Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Sereri posted:

Lol if you think any British food besides maybe fish&chips can be considered good.

Literally gekochtes Wildschwein in Pfefferminzsoße und lauwarme Cervisia
My second (I think?) trip to the UK, I stayed at this guest house and every morning they'd ask me, "Cingulate, why are you late for breakfast again, you lazy person!", and then, "continental or english?", and I have this thing where I try to eat local, so I say "english" and they serve me the most vile poo poo. Every day. And I eat it. Burnt black sausages, beans, half a badly cut tomato slice just to really hammer home how disgusting and unhealthy all of this is, and just fat fat fat. Every day. Last day, I ask for "continental" and they give me a normal breakfast and tell me: wow, we're so impressed you kept it up for this long, we don't actually eat this poo poo at all, we all just eat cornflakes, this is just for tourists to experience once and never come back, like eating Wattwürmer (they didn't say that last part, but that was the spirit).

So that's how I got owned by literally British Cuisine Itself.

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