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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Harrow posted:

Kind of torn between leveling PLD and DRK when I get around to leveling a tank. I think I like the overall aesthetics of PLD better, but I know DRK has some really cool job quests.

To be honest PLD quests are really not great. 1-30 is dealing with a jilted woman, 30-50 is searching for an unremarkable missing mentor, 50-60 is training some schlub nobody, 60-70 is going into a tournament where you're guaranteed to win because you're the freaking Warrior of Light, man. At no point did I ever do anything that actually made me feel like a Paladin.

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jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015

Sade posted:

I'm lv70 and I've never done a guildhest ever.

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015
I also only bothered to unlock the Gold Saucer in the last week before Stormblood. I really regret doing it because now my chat is constantly spammed with messages about where I can or can't play Triple Triad.

Fridurmus
Nov 2, 2009

:black101: Break a leg! :black101:

SKULL.GIF posted:

To be honest PLD quests are really not great. 1-30 is dealing with a jilted woman, 30-50 is searching for an unremarkable missing mentor, 50-60 is training some schlub nobody, 60-70 is going into a tournament where you're guaranteed to win because you're the freaking Warrior of Light, man. At no point did I ever do anything that actually made me feel like a Paladin.

I liked the 60-70 quests for the Gladiator callback but given that there's a loving war you'd think we would've gone and done some protecting the weak or something.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Fridurmus posted:

I liked the 60-70 quests for the Gladiator callback but given that there's a loving war you'd think we would've gone and done some protecting the weak or something.

Right? At least let me actually Clemency/Cover/Passage of Arms some NPCs.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


SKULL.GIF posted:

This would help MCH's damage but it wouldn't help their basic gameplay at all. Putting everything in 10 out of 60 seconds then doing the vanilla // Heated attacks for the next 50 seconds isn't that thrilling. They need something to mix things up more.

I dunno, I've rather enjoyed leveling MCH from 60 to 66, and don't enjoy BRD very much at all at least at 60. v:shobon:v

Hoping like hell the numbers get a good look in 4.05, though. I know the game's not balanced for levels below cap, but when my 60 BRD can keep up in terms of dummy DPS (to the tune of 5% difference) with a 66 MCH, that says something to me :v:

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Man, you can really confuse the game with the saved character appearance .dats. I just made it change species in the creator (it reverts to default appearance).

Weird and not useful in any way, but cool to see how it works.

I'm also joining the "how did SE miss this" crowd, although I haven't found the color values yet. I wonder how they're planning on fixing it. :psyduck:

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Fridurmus posted:

I liked the 60-70 quests for the Gladiator callback but given that there's a loving war you'd think we would've gone and done some protecting the weak or something.

The very first Samurai quest puts you in the coliseum right away. You have to wait like 63 levels as a Gladiator before you can do that poo poo.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

jalapeno_dude posted:

I also only bothered to unlock the Gold Saucer in the last week before Stormblood. I really regret doing it because now my chat is constantly spammed with messages about where I can or can't play Triple Triad.

If you think that's spam you don't know what real spam is.

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


TT is the best casino addiction.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013

A Spider Covets posted:

Man, you can really confuse the game with the saved character appearance .dats. I just made it change species in the creator (it reverts to default appearance).

Weird and not useful in any way, but cool to see how it works.

I'm also joining the "how did SE miss this" crowd, although I haven't found the color values yet. I wonder how they're planning on fixing it. :psyduck:

They probably can't.

Thumbtacks fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jul 9, 2017

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

A Spider Covets posted:

TT is the best casino addiction.

actually mini cactpot is but they limit me to 3 of my scratchers a day, the fucks

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Thumbtacks posted:

They probably can't.

Lol, maybe not. I don't know, I'm basically a kid looking inside a calculator and going, "Oh, so it doesn't ACTUALLY have tiny hamsters inside making it work..."

My knowledge of coding extends no further than like, CSS, a bit about hex, and using CE on single player games.

MotU posted:

actually mini cactpot is but they limit me to 3 of my scratchers a day, the fucks

It's very cruel to spare us a gambling addiction with fake money wtf :colbert:

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
I forgot Adamantortise was a mount so I too regret forgetting about Golden Saucer.

megalodong
Mar 11, 2008

A Spider Covets posted:

Man, you can really confuse the game with the saved character appearance .dats. I just made it change species in the creator (it reverts to default appearance).

Weird and not useful in any way, but cool to see how it works.

I'm also joining the "how did SE miss this" crowd, although I haven't found the color values yet. I wonder how they're planning on fixing it. :psyduck:

Maybe it'll convince them to implement an actual anti-chea-*8 level 50 BLMs fly past you in the air and assemble into the form of a giant LOL, before dissapearing under the ground*

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Yellow Gatherer Scrip tip -

With all HQ ilvl 290 crafted gear (unmelded) plus the Gameni food from Kugane puts you at 702 GP and 1007 gathering/989 perception. This rotation plus the "Discerning Eye + Impulsive Appraisal II / Discerning Eye + Impulsive Appraisal II / Discerning Eye + Methodical Appraisal" is enough to get 470 on all gathering nodes, including Legendary. With enough GP to hit Sharp Vision II and push gathering chance to 98%.

EDIT: If you're diligent with this rotation and hit a new node every 6 minutes, you can pull in about 800 scrips per Eorzean day. (About an hour) This means that to get all 3 gatherer tools, it will require roughly 5 hours of gathering scrips.

Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jul 9, 2017

fakemirage
Nov 6, 2012

Can't see the haters.

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

If you're gonna go gaudy, go all the way




Go gaudy, or go home.

Obligatum VII
May 5, 2014

Haunting you until no 8 arrives.

A Spider Covets posted:

Man, you can really confuse the game with the saved character appearance .dats. I just made it change species in the creator (it reverts to default appearance).

Weird and not useful in any way, but cool to see how it works.

I'm also joining the "how did SE miss this" crowd, although I haven't found the color values yet. I wonder how they're planning on fixing it. :psyduck:

They probably did notice the possibility at one point and then filed it away as "we'll deal with it if we have to" because really, it's just some weird cosmetic modifications, that's pretty low on the the priority list.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Brainamp posted:

It's basically sitting in the same place as it was in HW, only with even less to do. The new skills aren't really interesting.

This is just wrong. MNK lost like, what, Touch of Death and Fracture if you were one of the crazies that used Fracture. Oh and Haymaker, which is a skill I had to look up to even remember it existed because it was so unused besides in solo content.

In exchange they get to have a big fun burst phase where you pop off a large number of Forbidden Chakras, get to use more Forbidden Chakras in general and get to keep GL during certain mechanics due to Riddle of Earth. Like, I do wish they had gotten at least ONE new punch, but the difference in how fun MNK is in 4.0 than 3.0 is staggering. Now you actually have something your cooldowns are building up to, rather just sitting in the same rotation forever. You might not like it how it is now, but it's just wrong to say they have less to do than they did in HW. Keeping up 1-2 more DoTs isn't nearly as fun as slamming a bunch of forbidden chakras, in my opinion anyways.

They also have pretty decent numbers. They're no SAM, but they're no slouches either.

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


That would make sense yeah. It doesn't seem like you can do too much that's a) permanent and b) visible to other players, and none of it affects game play.

I think I've stopped rising to the occasion as of tonight unrelatedly, PF Susanex is a total slog. Yesterday and today I ran into like three groups where they lied about something or another before queueing (if someone hadn't cleared, farm when they actually were looking for a clear carry, etc).

Been leveling DoL classes, are there any particular mats that sell well so far? I noticed fish sell for basically nothing. Koppranickel mats fly off the shelves, but not for mind blowing numbers.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

queeb posted:

it's 10% difference on a dummy, so probably even closer in a real fight

In a real fight you'd probably come out ahead because I'm sure having to cut fire phase short all the time because you don't have enough time left to refresh it comfortably.

I'm a bad blm and do like 2200 dps on susanoo because I constantly had to use blizz 3 prematurely since casting fire 1 would take too long, and I remember thinking to myself I should probably just switch to lv50 rotation, turns out it's true.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Obligatum VII posted:

They probably did notice the possibility at one point and then filed it away as "we'll deal with it if we have to" because really, it's just some weird cosmetic modifications, that's pretty low on the the priority list.
Yeah in terms of game-breaking bugs, "use some NPC appearance assets" is well down the priority list. Especially if you have to actively and intentionally go well out of your way to do it and not just stumble into it through normal play.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
I expect the bug to be patched the same day those things go up for sale in the cash shop

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
any idea when 4.05 is coming out?

Thumbtacks fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Jul 9, 2017

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Thumbtacks posted:

any idea when 4.05 is coming out?

Tuesday after the next, right? I'm pretty sure that's when Savage drops and they always do the first big balance pass then.

Ignimbrite
Jan 5, 2010

BALLS BALLS BALLS
Dinosaur Gum
Yeah, should be 2 weeks from Omega normal release, so Tuesday week.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


shout outs to square and having to redownload 22gb of data because i had a power flicker

real good design there idiots!

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Leal posted:

I made about 20 million gathering the poo poo out of SB mats and selling them. Hopefully a medium house will open up in the mists when kugane housing happens :pray:

Yeah, I've been focused on levelling crafters so I've only probably made a couple of mil and it's mostly from gathering mats.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Paladin 60-70 should have you be Mozgus from Berserk.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

please knock Mom! posted:

Undercutting by a lot is just cutting your own profits but it's a thing that happens and you should just be aware of. Don't put all your eggs in one basket

A lot of the problems with the current market would be solved by letting people post a buy side order (or a bid). It would mean people looking to dump would have something to unload to, and it would make for a tidier market with less ping pong spins

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



A system like BDOs reserving where a buy order is placed with an X amount of Gil put as collateral. The moment the item goes into the market the highest reserve collateral wins and the item is sold to that person. The person that sold the item only gets what he put the item up for, everything else is lost into the ether. By eliminating the "I want to sell this quick" mentality, because items will sell instantly either way, people are compelled to maximize their potential profits.

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

vOv posted:

As someone who played BLM since 2.55 the ARR rotation is much more boring and I hate syncing below 60.

As someone who played BLM since 2.0 I actually enjoyed the class more pre-Enochian.

Chucat
Apr 14, 2006

Magil Zeal posted:

As someone who played BLM since 2.0 I actually enjoyed the class more pre-Enochian.

To clarify I liked when movement punished you by pausing your rotation as opposed to threatening to make poo poo fall off that just really fucks with your flow. It doesn't help that F4 x --> F1 --> F4 x 3 is really tight.

Chucat fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jul 9, 2017

Krabboss
Nov 11, 2016

MY HUSBAND'S PARSE IS BETTER THAN YOURS
Anybody else wish Summoner was still a fun class to play? I do.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Asimo posted:

Yeah in terms of game-breaking bugs, "use some NPC appearance assets" is well down the priority list. Especially if you have to actively and intentionally go well out of your way to do it and not just stumble into it through normal play.

Wait what's this now

Shy
Mar 20, 2010

Xun posted:

Wait what's this now

An exploit that goons think is cool and okay.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Krabboss posted:

Anybody else wish Summoner was still a fun class to play? I do.

What changed that made it so bad? Are people really nostalgic about babysitting dots? Dreadwyrm stance charges falling off?

Oscar Wilde Bunch
Jun 12, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

What changed that made it so bad? Are people really nostalgic about babysitting dots? Dreadwyrm stance charges falling off?

It's a technical PhD dissertation now to play and optimize.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Shy posted:

An exploit that goons think is cool and okay.

It is both those things.

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Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Is that how the goon earlier got the bright blue eyes?

I want those special eyes:argh:

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