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Condiv posted:the allegations are completely word of mouth from a ranking member of the vt gop Isn't that just referring to the allegations the Sanders' office pressured the bank to approve the loan?
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Sneakster posted:I feel like this is going to be remembered when people ask how the radicalized white nationalists with a charismatic leader and the support of big business overthrew democracy claiming it to be weak and useless.
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Jul 16, 2017 02:07
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He's a private citizen now! http://thehill.com/homenews/news/342074-obama-raises-millions-from-first-corporate-donors-for-presidential-foundation also lol at all the people who brought her up as an alternative to tulsi earlier in the thread https://twitter.com/PageSix/status/886432775129227264 Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 06:47
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Call Me Charlie posted:He's a private citizen now! 
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:
Wait. Wait, is that the one that actually won? Jesus loving Christ no wonder satire is dead.
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Jul 16, 2017 08:20
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kamala harris believes in uhc. by which she means obamacare, which fixed will become uhc. but not with a public option cause kamala harris doesn't like that. obamacare just needs fixed and people will have healthcare (and insurance companies will be happy  )she also wants to protect businesses from being sued, cause all those mean people sue businesses too much.finally, she'll be taking millions from wall street just like hillary, but you can be assured that will not affect how pro-wall street she is!
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The entire idea of a "Clinton inner circle" that is vetting people for 2020 is basically "the democrats are a waste" in a nutshell, isn't it?
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Jul 16, 2017 10:42
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I'd say to start discrediting these people ASAP, but that didn't stop Hillary. Even after literally praising slavery. Hm, suggestion: try to turn the meme around on them and push 'unelectable centrist'. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 10:44
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Inescapable Duck posted:I'd say to start discrediting these people ASAP, but that didn't stop Hillary. Even after literally praising slavery. No one called her out for being pro-slavery until 2017.
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Jul 16, 2017 10:49
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Inescapable Duck posted:I'd say to start discrediting these people ASAP, but that didn't stop Hillary. Even after literally praising slavery. kamala harris is pro slavery too! this must be a very important issue for the democratic establishment 
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Call Me Charlie posted:He's a private citizen now! quote:Despite being less than seven months into her new job as senator, Harris is already said to be the Democrats’ top fund-raiser and is being talked about as a 2020 presidential hopeful.
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Jul 16, 2017 13:48
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As long as frightening amounts of money are required for running for public office, I think the Clinton Family's "inner circle" will continue to have a lot of influence. Otherwise, many of these politicians witth national ambitions are going to feel like they're running into a big gunfight without enough ammunition. I know that people will counter that you can use technology to tap into big grassroots fundraising and youthful fundraising, but I think that, to some level, you will need to be ready to game the system in order to win the nomination.
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Yeah, Harris is pushing her messaging more to the left on health care, but at the same time, she has done very little to nothing to actually push for health care in California. I do think that there is going to be a push to move most messaging left-ward in the run-up to 2020, but in all honesty I think Harris herself is still very much an establishment dem.
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I wonder if Dems will try to shame Bernie out of running again if Harris is the establishment choice "WOW! Bernie Sanders REALLY doesn't want a woman to become president!" - Huffington Post, April 2019
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Trabisnikof posted:No one called her out for being pro-slavery until 2017. lmao except for literal decades it's not like some kind of massive surprise that HRC is a racist slavery supporter, she campaigned for barry goldwater what would be more accurate is to say that liberal america completely ignored any of her race issues because it didn't fit their preferred narrative
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I'm nearly finished with perlstein's book on Goldwater and if anything attracted her to him it was Goldwater's love of war. dude had a priapism about nuclear war
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WampaLord posted:The entire idea of a "Clinton inner circle" that is vetting people for 2020 is basically "the democrats are a waste" in a nutshell, isn't it? Your av is the answer
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Kokoro Wish posted:Wait. You've got to be kidding me, I thought that was a goon edit.
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Oh you wish. I thought it was from an Onion article at first, but no, all those stickers were real, official things. The fact that was the one that won is so far beyond ridiculous I can barely fathom it.
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Let the record show that the Democrats chose accelerationism as their campaign strategy. May God have mercy on their historic base of support.
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UK's putative left-wing party gets "For the Many, Not the Few" and Democrats in the US are stuck with poo poo-eating communications majors who land on "hey have you seen the other guys  Like I have to admit I laughed when the DNC's favorite intern lost the most expensive Congressional election in history. It'll be a different kind of laughter when Democrats lose seats in 2018 though.
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If they lose any more then the Republicans can call a Constitutional Amendment all by themselves and there's not a drat thing anyone else can do about it. The Democrats are so far beyond a joke that they're just outright a danger to the nation as it stands with their incompetence.
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Jul 16, 2017 17:24
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Kokoro Wish posted:Oh you wish. I thought it was from an Onion article at first, but no, all those stickers were real, official things. The fact that was the one that won is so far beyond ridiculous I can barely fathom it. So I tried to look for those lovely stickers on the DCCC's website and stumbled on to their donation page:  
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Jul 16, 2017 17:25
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As a foreigner, it's kinda mind-bending to watch the dance of both major US parties. GOP runs a strong candidate? Democratic establishment goes "We need to lean right so we won't be left behind." GOP runs a weak bufffoon? "We need to lean right to pick up the moderate conservatives the republicans are leaving out!" Has there been any other party to repulsed by its own alleged base and ideals? It never seemed to me that the Republicans truly worried if stopping abortion and killing the government was popular with the nation at large; it was what their base wanted, so it was what they sold, and they never looked back. In contrast, the Dems seem to barely be able to wait before dropping everything that engages their own base the moment they get near elected office. I don't think I've seen any GOPer tell his crowd "hey now, getting rid of Roe v. Wade is a pipe dream.", but I can find a list of dems making GBS threads on UHC as long as my arm in under a minute. All in all, it's amazing how much "GOP policies, only 5% less cruel" has endured as the liberal playbook.
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Sephyr posted:As a foreigner, it's kinda mind-bending to watch the dance of both major US parties. The secret is to realize Democrats are Republicans who don't want to get their hands dirty, so they let the other Republican party win and do all the work.
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Sephyr posted:Has there been any other party to repulsed by its own alleged base and ideas? The Republican Party during reconstruction actually. After the civil war, everyone but a handful of radicals had grand dreams of forming a national party with moderate democrats. the result was 100 more years of white supremacy in the south
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Sephyr posted:As a foreigner, it's kinda mind-bending to watch the dance of both major US parties. Part of the problem here is that Democrats have given up on actually evangelizing for policies. Whether that's because the Democratic leadership doesn't actually want those policies isn't something I really want to get into, but it doesn't matter because the end result is the same: Republicans are the only ones actually pushing any kind of message. Moderates who desperately want to appear reasonable are losing ground because there's no one on the national stage pushing back against conservatism and saying "actually, these slightly left-of-center policies are good." Republicans will outright lie to convince their base and anyone else who might listen that the things they're doing are going to benefit everyone while Democrats barely bother to promote their legitimately progressive platform. It's insane. At some point moderates in the US forgot that you can't actually have a political center without functional parties on both sides of the aisle.
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Kokoro Wish posted:Oh you wish. I thought it was from an Onion article at first, but no, all those stickers were real, official things. The fact that was the one that won is so far beyond ridiculous I can barely fathom it. guys im coming around to the idea that the democrats are a waste
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, Harris is pushing her messaging more to the left on health care, but at the same time, she has done very little to nothing to actually push for health care in California. I do think that there is going to be a push to move most messaging left-ward in the run-up to 2020, but in all honesty I think Harris herself is still very much an establishment dem. I'm curious, what do you think a State Attorney General should do to improve healthcare.
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YodaTFK posted:I'm curious, what do you think a State Attorney General should do to improve healthcare. she's a senator now
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Ah, so this is how America officially turns into a Theocracy
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Grouchio posted:We're going to loving lose next year.
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