hotchanie69 posted:

Absurd Alhazred posted:

חני is a girl's name, so I was kind of confused at you calling her a "he".

mrmcd posted:

I'm not in a position to assess the quality of the scholarship, but I thought it was informative. Guy needs some serious editing work though.

Edit: although I just checked the reg date and that does scream crank.

quote:

ALBANY — Less than a year after it started, the state Office for Information Technology Services is backing away from the outsourcing of its help desk, and will be once again have state workers assume many of those responsibilities.

Soon after it began last fall, representatives of numerous state agencies complained they couldn’t get through to the newly privatized help desks, which were based in Buffalo but were backed up in Boulder, Colo.

There had also been worries about the cost of the outsourcing. At least one retreat from the plan was made late last year.

Now, OITS plans to return some of the help desk responsibilities to state workers. The agency said it will continue to work with its main outsourcing contractor, IBM, but state employees will provide on-site assistance at the various state agencies. The process will begin this month in the Capital Region.
...
The Public Employees Federation, the union that represents state workers at the technology agency, hailed the decision.

“The Office of Information Technology Services will be returning much of the formerly outsourced Level 1 Help Desk work to our members over the coming months,” PEF President Wayne Spence said in a Friday statement to the union's membership.

Noting that the change also came after a series of town hall-style meetings between workers and management, Spence added that “this is a win for our members.”

hotchanie69 posted:

ugh


yeah, their being "pretty much all awful" is why some of The Good Ones get faced with physical violence from enlightened citizens that are lashing out at backwards evil people, since they all look the same...

try not to assume every hasidic man is a pervert, rapist or racist until he does something to you plz and plz don't try to make hasidic women uncomfortable to laugh at what prudes they must be for not wanting you to sit too close to them like creeps do. some ppl like to whisper creepy things to frum women thinking that none of them speak english and understand what sucking dick or loving might be



to say nothing of the loving chabad treatment of women, wow... but okay

a totally inaccurate and biased Hasidic Bullshit 101:
hasidim a mostly unified front for issues that impact the levels that they share, insofar as need for land/space and socioeconomic concerns as with with tax codes, social service funding (especially for special education).

that said:
skver and vizhnitz are the most 'extreme'/fundamentalist sects present in decent numbers in brooklyn (since Neturei Karta doesn't have a lot of numbers, still has a presence at anti-Zionist actions). satmar has the largest population between KJ, willi, BP.

upstate skverers set a man's house on fire for starting a prayer group at a nursing home, still within ideological lines of skver but not under the rebbe's direct control, and when he was getting his family out he got set on fire.

hasidim. loving. love. fire.
holiday with fire?! gently caress yeasss, burn everything!!!
holiday without fire? some rebbe at one point surely set something on fire for celebration so let's do that too! !! !


but, the kicker is:
sectarian affiliation means very little for individual behaviors unless you've got a hardcore ideologue on your hands.
our example Everyman Hasid will daven (pray) at a shul (synagogue) of one affiliation while their sons go to a secondary school of another affiliation and their daughters go to an unaffiliated secondary school and their wife sits on a parenting board affiliated with yet another sect but the Everyman still wears a hat that is associated with the rabbinical dynasty that he grew up being educated with/his (grand)father's sect so if anything the gang colors of sectarian affiliation are a better indicator of ethnic identity until further details are found out from the individuals.

but, bloc voting affiliation is determined, generally, by hat.

neturei karta wear the same hats as some Satmar, but Upstate and Downstate Satmar wear different hats and have similar voting patterns due to the socioeconomic concerns of their communities, which drives taking land from surrounding communities in Bed-Stuy or in Orange/Rockland counties and rezoning land to enable building huge, ugly houses and educational complexes if they cannot take over buildings left by the former residents of the area.

belz and bobov (very, very large sects in boro park, with some representation in williamsburg) wear the same hats and can be told apart by whether the man is wearing a certain type of belt on weekdays.
there are a lot of lil podunk backwater chassidic sects that people simply assume are parts of larger ones because of the hats that the men wear.

chabad-lubavitch wear hats nothing like other hasidic sects because Chabad are essentially no longer hasidic, so much as a hasidic-derived religious community with a variety of internal sectarian divides with deepening differences, ripe for a schism or two. their Russian/Litvak origin always had them ethnically outside the bounds of normal/general hasidic communities.
also, their food simply sucks and they drink too much.

chabad are worse than other hasidim when it comes to education for their children, following the death of their Rebbe a few decades ago, with zero English education whereas yiddish-speaking hasidim will have English education prior to bar mitzvah age for the boys and longer for girls, but because there are Chabad Houses as a presence on college campuses Chabad-Lubavitch is seen as more modern and assumed to be better about education, child abuse, sexual abuse, tax fraud, social service fraud, racism (unless you know about those Crown Heights riots), and everything that outsiders generally only associate with hasidim that have long, curled sidelocks/payos.

another shity thing: Chabad also do not hold by religious law that allows people to push strollers on the sabbath and holidays, using what's called an eruv (that wire or string thing sometimes gets writen about outside of jewish communities when people complain about real estate costs). not holding by an eruv leaves their women housebound for all significant religious and social gatherings but they're women so what does chabad care when it should just be a bunch of sloppy dressed men getting drunk to celebrate The Rebbe.
lubavitchers actively vandalize the structures of other Jewish sects or communities when they are in conflict with Chabad ideology, all while presenting a happy-go-lucky "chassidus means bringing joy and light to the world !!!" public image. sometimes they hire goyim to do the vandalizing for them

satmar and lubavitch used to get into huge streetfights with each other, with dozens of men just marching to each other's hoods to start poo poo. we can only hope that such good days can come again to brooklyn!!

chabad are seen as modern because they use Instagram and are those fuckers standing around asking, "excuse me, sir, are you Jewish?", as part of their evangelical outreach programs that aim to get every Jew on board with their specific, niche ideology in order to bring about the Messianic Age (which is what those yellow flags represent). if you are a woman that responds to that kind of thing they'll offer you shabbos candles and recipes to bake bread for your husband, like a good lil wifey!! if your gender is ambiguous and they think you are a man they will let you wrap tefillin but if they find our you "should be" a woman they will be very upset because you should be making bread and babies

in politics Chabad-Lubavitch throws money and marketing efforts into political things with the same semi lowkey sneakiness as the Mormon Church (with whom they share many commonalities, as stated with that evangelical outreach and smiley sunshine misogyny routine).

while Satmar may be much more boorish and look more alien (especially when they sexually harassing you), they want to be left the gently caress alone to LARP their fantasy version of 17th century Eastern Europe complete with wife beating and hiring exorcists through advertisements in yiddish language newspapers, where as Chabad-Lubavitch's Mendy, Menachem and Mendy want to lead you to believe that their LARP of 17th century fantasy values is somehow compatible with modern life while taking your money until they exclude you for not stepping up to their level of observance or deviating from it once you've been suckered into it. they believe, moreso that other hasidim, that the rebbe's predecessors and The Rebbe, represent the One True Judaism and that their culture is the one true way to be jewish

tl;dr = it's chabad are the truly worst but they have better marketing and act like they don't hate you, while other hasidim don't bother with pretense

satmar have done worse for the image and relationship people have w jews in NY because of things like B&H camera's racism and satmar real estate deals and satmar men beating up gay black men and leaving them blind in one eye, while on a national and global level chabad-lubavitch is far worse poo poo

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner are kinda affiliated with Chabad, while there are conspiracy theories (okay... stories) about how Hillary Clinton was loving some rebbe upstate because she was friendly with upstate hasidim while campaigning on state levels and then again while trying to be president.

so, may that hopefully illustrate who the real problem is


yeah, basically this, plz


yeah, this is going to get lovely. was hoping he'd have more class than this.


Agudath Israel of America has been allying with the Boyscouts of America and the Roman Catholic church to block the Child Victims Act.

sunday there is going to be a protest outside of the Novominsker Yeshiva in boro park, organized by an advovacy group called ZAAKAH. it is on FB

there are hasidic, yeshivish, and just-plain-orthodox jews that are protesting the sex abuse coverups within haredi communities (aka ultra-orthodox, the umbrella term that covers hasidic and yeshivish communities).

at the last protest a man came out to yell at the protestors and told women that they were behaving immodestly by protesting and would die within a couple of years because of such behavior...

yes, a female puppet is a great stride forward for frum women! !!


the recent rally was aimed to protest military drafts in israel that impact haredi communities (not solely Satmar), but yes, they are religious antizionists. before the rally there were trucks circling in boro bark (and i assume Williamsburg/Bed-Stuy and maybe Flatbush/midwood) announcing the rally to community members that do not follow either Satmar Twitter accounts or any of the mass-mailers, shul postings, or word of mouth about such big rallies.

hasidic groups also sometimes rent out Barclay's and CITI Field for anti-internet/anti-smartphone rallies

fyi, the location for KJ was chosen by the OG satmar rebbe, yoel teitelbaum, before his death. ahron and zalman just drew party lines that included different areas. boro park satmar are seen as less frum than williamsburg and satmar in kiryas joel/yoel are another issue, despite who they affiliate with or in spite of maybe

satmar also had the issue with women driving a few years back. williamsburg, of course. so boro park may be a little like jewish Turkey under Erdogan and the more modern young communtiies are the kurds (if the kurds could mvoe to staten island or NJ to get away from bullshit...), williamsburg wants to be saudi arabia but they;re more like UAE with their realty obsession and exploitation of foreign labor to build tacky things with no building safety standards

soon one boro park rabbi is moving, with a lot of his followers, to a small town in NJ where there is an orthodox but not hasidic community already. the jews already there are pretty upset that hasidim are moving in becuse people already there moved to NJ to get away from hasidic politics, drama and problems. the already there jews are too upset to realize that a lot of the hasidim are moving because they are sick of the same poo poo, but they all look the same so...

hth

Ogmius815 posted:

I think you might be the worst writer on the Internet. I am impressed.

KomradeX posted:

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Matt Zerella posted:

of course her name is Becky.

KomradeX posted:

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KomradeX posted:

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MizPiz posted:

I stopped by the protest yesterday for like 15 minutes, it was pretty heated and they roped in other gentrification issues that are affecting the community. I actually think I can hear them from my apartment.

MizPiz posted:

I stopped by the protest yesterday for like 15 minutes, it was pretty heated and they roped in other gentrification issues that are affecting the community. I actually think I can hear them from my apartment.

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Did they mention landlords or real estate holding companies?

MizPiz posted:

I stopped by the protest yesterday for like 15 minutes, it was pretty heated and they roped in other gentrification issues that are affecting the community. I actually think I can hear them from my apartment.

Nephzinho posted:

Hey neighbor. Gentrification is hitting Crown Heights hard right now - there are luxury buildings going up on pretty much every block. poo poo is ridiculous and I am pretty much stuck in my apartment. Every time I see another place with "Breukelen" in the name I cringe a little harder.

Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:

If Crown Heights is the New Williamsburg thanks to the L shut down then will the new Bushwick be Sunset Park or like Ditmas Park/Lefferts Garden or Prospect Heights? The nice streak of restaurants and bars on Courtelyou makes me nervous, and I hope that Kensington never gets desirable, really.

Nephzinho posted:

I know a half dozen people who have left Crown Heights for Sunset Park this summer. From my chair right now I can literally see 5 construction sites, all of which are luxury condos going for sale. I don't know who the hell is going to buy them, cause its sure as poo poo not anyone here now. At least my apartment is rent stabilized so I can at least be stuck here and not outright priced out.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Good news!

gobbagool posted:

I'm pretty deep in this operation having worked both at ITS and later for a company that does some of the outsourced Helpdesk. let me tell you there are no good guys in this story. the main (but never publicly stated) reason for outsourcing it in the first place was that ITS is loving terrible and completely unresponsive to the customers. That IBM and others hosed up the outsource so bad is another issue and cheers to Robert Samson for righting the ship. OFT/ITS have been bad news from the get go for 20 years now, and the big reason why the state of NY spend more on IT services than anyone else. sometime I'll work up an effort post about my time there because it's a long lovely story that ruined my faith in Government.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I guess that's what I get for daring to hope that NYS government and "good" belong in the same sentence.

Grondoth posted:

https://twitter.com/CTLizB/status/8...genumber%3D3695

gobbagool posted:

what should upstaters do? wait for GE and Chevy to hire in Schenectady and Tonawanda again? as long as the economic fate of upstate is dictated by the whims of the City, there won't be any big new factory built, or anything that would bring any large number of jobs in. I mean the proof is in the pudding, anywhere I travel in south and west I meet people from upstate.

gobbagool posted:

what should upstaters do? wait for GE and Chevy to hire in Schenectady and Tonawanda again? as long as the economic fate of upstate is dictated by the whims of the City, there won't be any big new factory built, or anything that would bring any large number of jobs in. I mean the proof is in the pudding, anywhere I travel in south and west I meet people from upstate.

Grondoth posted:

Build our own drat factories as a large scale effort in creating hubs of renewable energy across the country.

More importantly, Trump said he cared about these places, that he cared about the forgotten men and women of this country. Yeah no poo poo he didn't, he's a real estate developer from new york city; but that populist message moved people. This is the clearest signal possible that he didn't.

Matt Zerella posted:

I forgot gobbagool is the dipshit upstate/downstate warrior.

gobbagool posted:

oh yeah and you're queens rage boy who has never been north of Westchester. this isn't that complex. NYS is ruled by NYC.