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i don't understand worshiping a god when you know there's nothing on the other side.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i don't understand worshiping a god when you know there's nothing on the other side. Does jon still show much piety tho?
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Jul 28, 2017 13:12
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melisandre knows there's nothing on the other side, beric told her. also he still is a follower. as is thoros.
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Jul 28, 2017 13:21
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Groovelord Neato posted:i don't understand worshiping a god when you know there's nothing on the other side. Because they have real actual power on this side?
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Jul 28, 2017 13:36
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I really miss Jonathan Pryce.
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Groovelord Neato posted:melisandre knows there's nothing on the other side, beric told her. also he still is a follower. as is thoros. Johnny Snow told her too. She's got all the evidence in the world telling her there's no afterlife. Keeping the faith! Princess that's promised!
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BigglesSWE posted:I really miss Jonathan Pryce. Jim Broadbent ain't a bad replacement
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fromsinkingsands posted:Is there anyone in this thread that actually enjoys the show? I agree with the fact that they've killed off a lot of great characters/actors but I'm still thoroughly enjoying this season. It's fun, I thought season 5 was the only truly dire one honestly
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Jul 28, 2017 15:01
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Not all religions believe in an afterlife or are even that concerned with what comes after death, IIRC Judaism is probably the most notable example of that.
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nopantsjack posted:When the necromancer guy brings cersei to see balerions skull I was like "oh poo poo he's gonna resurrect balerion, the giant dragon skull was a chekhovs gun! There's a chapter where Tyrion is watching mercenaries try and shoot drogon (flying incredibly fast at high altitudes) with a ballista and laughing internally at how idiotic that is iirc
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The only instance from the books of the Seven maybe being real was that one priest-monk on the Quiet Isle that maybe perhaps might have magical healing abilities.
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esperterra posted:If you want to see just how bad Clarke is, look up clips of her short run as Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's. REALLY late to the party, but I went to see this. That doesn't do justice to how bad it was. I left at intermission
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lezard_valeth posted:Did they ever pronounce R'hllor's name in the show or has it always been called The Lord of Light? I just realised that I want to hear how you pronounce a stupid name like R'hllor you shouldnt have trouble pronouncing that word its very simple and yes theyve said it on the show
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aBagorn posted:REALLY late to the party, but I went to see this. Ouch.
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PostNouveau posted:Oh, did she bow out? All of the articles about it just say "The original pilot sucked, so they recast some people." I read that Merchant didn't want to do it after the disastrous pilot rather than being fired. Gurm is even quoted somewhere saying how much he liked Merchant in "The Tudors" where she a) acted competently if not well and b) was clearly chill being naked on screen. He was disappointed she left.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's fun, I thought season 5 was the only truly dire one honestly  It's not high art or anything, but the show's very enjoyable even with all its dumb poo poo.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:It was never like, a profound series or anything, but I had more fun when it was poo poo like this, and less like...giant zombie armies The best part is that scene was never in the books. Both GRRM and the showrunners were doing genuinely good work in the beginning. I don't think either of them will find a good way to end this series. GRRM will die trying and the showrunners probably won't give much of a gently caress in the end.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I am in the minority who liked Bernie Sparrow. Not sure this follows. Smallfolk will do as they do, but people like Olenna would control the direction of the supply train. aBagorn posted:REALLY late to the party, but I went to see this. I only watched the clip, but her accent is loving horrible. Not sure about the acting; I'm not a good critic there. But Dany Golightly sounds like one of those Americans who moves to London and tries (and fails) to speak the part. Like Gwyneth Paltrow or Madonna, but worse. ed: ah, here we go. Hollywood Reporter: quote:Part of that is due to the miscasting of Clarke, best known as the platinum-haired Khaleesi uber-babe in HBO’s Game of Thrones. Reverting to brunette, she looks slinky and soignée in Colleen Atwood’s elegant period gowns, even if the details of the Oscar-winning designer’s costumes tend to get lost onstage in her first Broadway assignment. But Clarke doesn’t demonstrate the maturity to convey Holly’s unique dichotomy of breezy insouciance and jaded calculation. It takes skill and subtlety for a British actor to play an American hillbilly who wears her acquired sophistication like a satin sheath, and Clarke’s delivery mostly comes off as effortful over-enunciation. Her Hollywood mentor O.J. (Lee Wilkof) describes Holly as “a phony,” but clarifies, “she’s a real phony.” Those distinguishing layers are lost here. The most crucial missing component from Clarke’s performance is vulnerability. There’s neither softness nor fragility in her grating Holly, even when she’s subjected to the hardest knocks. Propaganda Machine fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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That would be fantastic. Twin Peaks the return has been great because while there's a bunch of characters, David Lynch has 18 hours to work with and so there's plenty of time to meander without it feeling squandered. The last two or so episodes pretty much have to be two hours long, right? But it'd be neat if they just extended that to the rest of the season. HBO should just write them a blank check and let them end this in the most unconstrained means possible. They'd probably make back the investment with spin-off's anyway if they land their footing. aBagorn posted:REALLY late to the party, but I went to see this. Can't judge too harshly off a youtube clip, but she sounds a lot like Sally Bowles from Cabaret. EatinCake fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Jul 29, 2017 18:43
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Propaganda Machine posted:Not sure this follows. Smallfolk will do as they do, but people like Olenna would control the direction of the supply train. I think if she came back with that Bernie Sparrow would ask who drives the carts, who tends the mules, etc. Again the answer is smallfolk not noble lords. And yeah when it gets to it you could stop them at swordpoint but who's holding the swords? That was his whole game. Interested to see his fate in the book.
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The sept blowing up is a momentous-enough event that I assume it has to happen in the books. Probably during Margaery's trial. They've even somewhat hinted at wildfire under the Great Sept, and Cersei becoming Aerys before.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. I also wouldn't be surprised if they just merged her burning the Tower of the Hand with tying up loose ends for the final seasons. fwiw I think it's more likely Cersei uses the wildfire again in the books. Especially after that shame walk.
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He was in the ToJ flashback.
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Vegetable posted:Why haven't we seen Howland Reed? Who is that? - Everyone
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esperterra posted:He was in the ToJ flashback. and wasn't a swamp guy. lame.
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Yestermoment posted:Who is that? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Howland_Reed
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Think they're gonna kill Gray Worm this season or next? I think it'll be this season and that's why they jammed the love scene in here. I think it's just a minor enough death of a semi-regular character that could have gotten missed in what appears to be completely accurate leaked spoilers. Plus, they need to kill someone we care about each season and Thoros ain't gonna do it.
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Don't mess with Thoros please. Grey Worm can be fish bait as far as I'm concerned
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benzine posted:Don't mess with Thoros please. Grey Worm can be fish bait as far as I'm concerned
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Kromlech posted:Jojen & Meera Who is that? - Everyone
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melisandre obviously thinks there should be an afterlife hence my question about worshiping the god after you find out there's nothing at the end.
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Groovelord Neato posted:melisandre obviously thinks there should be an afterlife hence my question about worshiping the god after you find out there's nothing at the end. Well she's like 400 or something, so it's paying off for her regardless.
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Plus she can do, like, magic.
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Groovelord Neato posted:melisandre obviously thinks there should be an afterlife hence my question about worshiping the god after you find out there's nothing at the end. She can probably also justify it to herself that the God wipes their memories of paradise, or that they end up in purgatory since it wasn't their time yet etc. A zealot of any sort will twist themselves into knots before admitting a mistake.
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Groovelord Neato posted:melisandre obviously thinks there should be an afterlife hence my question about worshiping the god after you find out there's nothing at the end. I mean, if you believe in a god and it has real, physical power in the real world and someone tells you theres just oblivion on the other side would it really matter? I'd probably double down since I do actually have magic now and theres fuckall waiting for me. That's one thing I've never understood about religion in that if there's some wonderful bullshit waiting for you then why do you stick around?
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TK-42-1 posted:. That's one thing I've never understood about religion in that if there's some wonderful bullshit waiting for you then why do you stick around?
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Caros posted:She can probably also justify it to herself that the God wipes their memories of paradise, or that they end up in purgatory since it wasn't their time yet etc. She literally brought a dude back to life, I'm not sure she's made much of a mistake. She was never like "Aha, you've been to the ethereal realm of ever joy yes?" she was just like "yoooo what did you see, did you see god, was it cool?" if I'm remembering the scene correctly. She seemed to just assume something was there, but didn't have a specific idea. She also asked Beric that, and was kinda surprised at his answer. Like, she wants an afterlife, but she also sees the future, convinces people she's a hot young lady and raises the dead.
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