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Xelkelvos posted:Journalist was great before the age of the internet since those were the types of people in the know about the goings on around town and could generally go into most places and had an interest in places they were barred from. Nowadays, however, everyone has a cell phone and there's CCTV everywhere so anything that doesn't involve literally being at the scene can now be done by a hacker/programmer sort (I forget what type of Engineer Cisco is, though; Mechanical like Ronnie maybe?). So the journalist thing is mostly retained out of tradition rather than utility. A computer program that can tap into literally every CCTV camera in the city and run facial recognition on every face no matter how grainy the footage is basically magic. They could've just not included that bit of crazy sci-fi technology.
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It would be nice if Joe got to do some sort of proper detective stuff next season. I like him as Barry's wise dad because that's a part he plays well, but outside of that, he's mostly the non-science guy the rest of the team explains science stuff to.
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Jul 28, 2017 20:27
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Burning_Monk posted:He annoyed me less when I found out he's actually Australian and is doing an American accent. Hah, really? They should've just gone with it. Xelkelvos posted:Journalist was great before the age of the internet since those were the types of people in the know about the goings on around town and could generally go into most places and had an interest in places they were barred from. Nowadays, however, everyone has a cell phone and there's CCTV everywhere so anything that doesn't involve literally being at the scene can now be done by a hacker/programmer sort (I forget what type of Engineer Cisco is, though; Mechanical like Ronnie maybe?). So the journalist thing is mostly retained out of tradition rather than utility.  There's more to journalism than just going places and flashing your press pass. I mean at the very least everyone else on Team Flash except Joe is a STEM specialist and should have little to no practical experience in non-academic avenues of investigation or building a network of contacts and tipsters in diverse areas of interest. Joe and Iris both should be bringing more to the table than different flavors of moral support 95% of the time.Guy Goodbody posted:A computer program that can tap into literally every CCTV camera in the city and run facial recognition on every face no matter how grainy the footage is basically magic. They could've just not included that bit of crazy sci-fi technology. But also this particularly inane blend of comic book science and CSI Miami poo poo.
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Jul 28, 2017 20:30
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McSpanky posted:Hah, really? They should've just gone with it. When has team Flash ever used a network of contacts and tipsters in diverse areas of interest that wasn't science related? Fwiw, Arrow also a person who's capable of said technomancy but Ollie still had to go out and beat some thugs for info from time to time.
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Jul 28, 2017 22:26
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McSpanky posted:Hah, really? They should've just gone with it. That's what I said. If you watch clips of the guy acting with his native accent, he's actually really charismatic and charming, aka everything this version of Wally West should be. The forced American accent is crippling him-- just do a Negative Time Sphincter Prolapse or something that changes history so his mom raised him in Australia before moving back to Central City to kick the bucket. Presto, problem solved. I don't know why American accents so hard for some people. Bob Morley on the 100 seems okay with it, though he occasionally slips up (any time he says the word 'our,' he might as well turn into a koala for a second). KJ Apa is from New Zealand, and he can just loving do it. Haven't heard him go kiwi yet. I know it's not the same accent, but come on, it's close enough.
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Jul 29, 2017 03:11
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Rose McIver doing the "stay tuned for iZombie" promos in her native accent always weirdest me out.
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STAC Goat posted:Wally's kind of lame. He stopped being lame the second he did that flawless Joe West impression.
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Rhyno posted:He stopped being lame the second he did that flawless Joe West impression. 
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Spergatory posted:I just saw this and had to post it, I'm sorry. Both of their reactions are just too good. I think we've found the people qualified to be the next Whitehouse Press Secretaries!
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Rhyno posted:He stopped being lame the second he did that flawless Joe West impression. As with literally every character on this show they start being good when they let them do fun poo poo instead of moping around for multiple episodes
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I don't have anything against journalists and think they're an important part of society. But like, if Iris spends six month tracking down documents and sources to find proof of corruption or something incredibly meaningful like that its not exactly in Barry's wheelhouse. And like I'm not entirely sure what Barry needs a journalist for when they're chasing a bank robber who shoot ice and fire or a giant telepathic gorilla. Maybe they should just add a side plot when Iris is sending tips to Oliver. Meanwhile Team Flash is a bunch of science wizards and I'm at peace with that. howe_sam posted:Rose McIver doing the "stay tuned for iZombie" promos in her native accent always weirdest me out. The lead on the 100 too. Its somehow always unexpected.
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It Flash was hated she could be the PR lady. But everyone loves Flash unless it's plot relevant, it's not like he hasn't been a plague on Star City.
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Invalid Validation posted:It Flash was hated she could be the PR lady. But everyone loves Flash unless it's plot relevant, it's not like he hasn't been a PUBLIC plague on Star City.
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Jul 30, 2017 20:51
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It's just Iris on the phone with the Reverse Flash, trying to convince him that Barry's not so bad.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:18
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I recently re-watched Season 1 on Netflix. It was weird being reminded of how much they leaned into Barry and Caitlyn as a romantic possibility. I'd almost forgotten how amazing Cavanaugh is as Wells-Thawne, he's still really good in the next two seasons, but not quite to that level. Mainly on the basis of the material he's working with. There's an alternate reality where Eddie doesn't die, Caitlyn and Barry become a thing and the show remains light and fun in the follow-up seasons.
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Jul 30, 2017 22:37
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And there's continuing sequences as unashamedly comic as "You can't defeat all three of us!" "Oh, can't I? This is gonna be fun" *suit ring*
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Jul 31, 2017 00:38
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Wait, what episode was it that Wally did the Joe West impression?
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toanoradian posted:Wait, what episode was it that Wally did the Joe West impression? The Christmas episode from this year. Joe tells Barry, Wally and Iris that he's dating Lucile and Wally goes "It's about tiiiiiime" in full-on Jesse L. Martin mode. It's the best.
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nine-gear crow posted:The Christmas episode from this year. Joe tells Barry, Wally and Iris that he's dating Lucile and Wally goes "It's about tiiiiiime" in full-on Jesse L. Martin mode. It's the best. Agreed. It turned me 180 on him because clearly he has talent, they just give him poo poo to work with.
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Do you remember the title of the episode? Because I don't remember that line and I'd like to check it out.
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Q_res posted:Do you remember the title of the episode? Because I don't remember that line and I'd like to check it out. I don't. It was the one where they give him his Kid Flash suit if memory serves.
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Jul 31, 2017 03:16
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If I'm reading the Netflix episode descriptions correctly, I think it might be "Running to Stand Still."
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Jul 31, 2017 03:26
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It's "The Present", episode 3x09. The one right after the Invasion! crossover.
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Jul 31, 2017 03:36
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nine-gear crow posted:It's "The Present", episode 3x09. The one right after the Invasion! crossover. Woops, I just picked the first one I saw that said something about Christmas.
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Shaddak posted:Woops, I just picked the first one I saw that said something about Christmas. To be fair, the one you picked was a good one too.
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Jul 31, 2017 03:48
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New suit for Barry. Looks to be similar to the future Flash suit.
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Jul 31, 2017 14:51
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They need to figure out how to make his head look smaller.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:08
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Finally we're getting some goddamn gold on that poo poo.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I feel like Iris has been used well. She's provided good moral support and challenges Barry intellectually pushing him to be better. She kind of stopped being a journalist at all anymore but I'm sure that's not a standing set.
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irlZaphod posted:The back half of Season 3 her entire role was relegated to "Oh I'm going to die now and everyone's upset about it". It was really bad. I do like that she shot Savitar though.
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I like how Barry Allen was fast enough to catch a bullet that was fired at his neck out of the air in season 1, but a super charged, "so fast I need a suit to not vibrate apart" Savitar Allen can start running towards Barry and Iris can shoot him in the back with the bullet 1) catching up to him and 2) killing him. SPEED FORCE
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No Butt Stuff posted:I like how Barry Allen was fast enough to catch a bullet that was fired at his neck out of the air in season 1, but a super charged, "so fast I need a suit to not vibrate apart" Savitar Allen can start running towards Barry and Iris can shoot him in the back with the bullet 1) catching up to him and 2) killing him. I'm sure someone could do or has done the math on this.
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Well it's easy, his side of the shot was in slow motion, Iris side of the shot wasn't. By activating super speed he was actually going much slower than anyone not on camera.
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The show's always had a problem with having their cake and eating it too on Barry's stated capabilities vs. depicted feats. I did some back-of-the-envelope Fermi estimations on how fast a person would need to move unseen in typically portrayed situations (such as early in the series when Barry is explicitly sub-sonic but invisibly whips in and out of a clothing store across the street from a crime scene) and I figure it's around mach 6, ~4500 mph. He didn't even explicitly break the sound barrier until like 2/3 of the way through season 1.
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McSpanky posted:The show's always had a problem with having their cake and eating it too on Barry's stated capabilities vs. depicted feats. I did some back-of-the-envelope Fermi estimations on how fast a person would need to move unseen in typically portrayed situations (such as early in the series when Barry is explicitly sub-sonic but invisibly whips in and out of a clothing store across the street from a crime scene) and I figure it's around mach 6, ~4500 mph. He didn't even explicitly break the sound barrier until like 2/3 of the way through season 1.
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Jul 31, 2017 17:36
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The best thing the show could do is to destroy the speed force and somehow Barry and Wally retain like 1/10 their speed.
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Jul 31, 2017 17:37
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It must be his posture in that first pic but the Future Flash suit kinda makes him look flabby, the way it folds like that. I'm sure it's fine, but that's a poorly timed shot.
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nine-gear crow posted:It must be his posture in that first pic but the Future Flash suit kinda makes him look flabby, the way it folds like that. My name is Barry Allen, and I am the fastest Dad Bod alive.
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All this  SPEEDMATH is the reason why back before the show was out, I was hoping they would sort of take the 'Arrow' route and ground his powers just a little. Don't make him a normal human with super reflexes or anything, but set clear limits on his speed and adhere to them in some way. Make him fast, but not stupid-fast, where he can obviously run and react way faster than a normal human but you can still get the drop on him. Or maybe make it so he can only use his speed in short bursts or something. They way they did it is fun, and all, and ironically probably lighter on the effects budget given that often all they have to do is animate a lightning-blur and use an air machine to simulate his speed. But it gives us the present problem where Barry has the powers of a god and the mind of a six-year-old (and not a particularly bright one).
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS https://www.newsarama.com/35746-report-elongated-man-cast-for-cw-s-the-flash.html [ quote:Hartley Sawyer has been cast as Ralph Dibney, the Elongated Man, for the upcoming fourth season of the CW's The Flash. Dibny was previously name-dropped as an Easter egg in the show's first season as one of the people who died as a result of the particle accelerator accident.
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