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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

PetraCore posted:

Yeah but if he literally wants sex every day (at a generous reading) and then blames her sex drive for being too low when she's only willing to have sex 3 times a week that's a problem. There's obviously a mismatch there in things they probably can't help, but he CAN help how he treats her when she says no, just as she can help the way she says no.

In a very generous reading of a very one sided account sure, but that she mentioned their sex in the last week as opposed to in general is imo a telling part of the anecdote. I imagine a lot of dead bedrooms start with similar stories regarding their sex life recently while ignoring the broader problems that have existed for a while. Or not I mean it could have just been her best example of many where she felt he was being too pushy it's hard to say without him weighing in.

I just find in general people focusing on specific recent examples of the other party being unreasonable are often intentionally neglecting to mention trends that have gone on for a while that lead to their recent outburst.

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Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
In the words of the FWP thread: Just jerk off, you loving lunatic.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Pick posted:

Well with my father, for example, I have to assume it didn't help that his mother was basically Lucille Bluth without the occasional glimmers of humanity.

Like 99% of the time when you see someone with mental issues who's barely functional their parents are a hundred times worse. Usually expecting their children to take care of them after doing the bare minimum to keep them alive and clothed.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

quote:

My [23F] high school friend [22F] wants to visit for 3 weeksNon-Romantic
submitted 57 minutes ago by breeyoncewerk

Hi r/relationships!

I'm a longtime lurker but haven't been able to find a post quite like mine.

I have a good friend from high school, we were never best friends but part of the same circle back then, and we rarely to never communicated after hs except when we were home from college on breaks (we always made an effort to see each other and it was like nothing has changed - one of those friendships).

I start grad school after Labor Day and will be moving to a new city and apartment on September 1. I will be living with 3 other girls who I have not yet met in person, and our rent is $3200 a month ($800 per person) before utilities.
My friend reached out last month and let me know that she will be in my new city for business in September and really wanted to see me. I told her I was super excited and would love to see her. She called me last week and gave me some more details - her company will not be putting her up, so she asked if she could stay with me.

Now, I would absolutely love to have her as a guest, and I personally don't mind because I know she would do the same for me if I visited her. However, what I did not know until tonight is that she would be arriving just one week after school starts, and the duration of her stay is a whopping 3 weeks.

I'm uncomfortable with this for a couple of reasons.

It is not only my space. I am aware that I'd have to clear this with my roommates, but I haven't even met them yet. To spring on them that I'd have a guest the week after we move in for 3 whole weeks seems like something that would put me at the top of their poo poo lists, and frankly, I wouldn't be happy if I were in their position.

Cost. My friend offered to pay, but didn't mention how much. If we treated her as a fifth roommate, her portion of the rent for 3 weeks would equal out to $480. I feel bad asking her to pay anything - she is a guest - but the sheer duration puts an inconvenience on not only myself, but my roommates as well. In addition, it's really doubling my cost in groceries unless we went out to eat every night (which won't happen - I can't afford it).

Logistics. Would she be in the apartment when we aren't? Should I make a spare key? I haven't found a job out there yet and really need one to offset my costs - having a visitor to entertain could hinder or delay my search. Would having her sleep on the daybed in the living room be too awkward for my roommates, and should I have her just sleep in my bed? What about cooking and shower schedules? What if I have an exam to study for? What if I want to spend the weekend with my boyfriend, or go out to dinner with him? Would she be getting in late at night? I don't know the nature of her business yet, so this could create problems, all while testing out the dynamic with new roommates. I want to create a bond with them as well, and having a guest may mean isolating myself from building those relationships.

Lastly, is it reasonable to let her know that I'd be happy to have her for a week or so until she can find other accommodations? In that case, I probably wouldn't take any money should she offer, as she will end up spending much more in a hotel. I just feel like a lovely friend by not taking her in for the whole time, but I don't think it's fair to myself or my roommates (I would obviously run this by them first as well).

Where should I go from here?! Thanks in advance for the help!

Tl;dr - high school friend wants to stay with me for 3 weeks. I am just moving in to a new apartment in a new city with new roommates I've never met. Costs and logistics are a major issue for this amount of time. I want to see my friend and help her out, but also want to be respectful of my living situation.

I'm posting this because this is one of the few people to see this situation and make an actual reasonable decision. I know so many friendships destroyed by deciding on 1-3 months trips to go see the other one and being furious when it turns out the other person can't "hang out" for two straight months.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Malachite_Dragon posted:

In the words of the FWP thread: Just jerk off, you loving lunatic.
Don't jerk off to porn, though.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

My (25/F) sister (30/F) and BIL (32/M) kept trying to set me up with BIL's younger brother (25/M) to the point that there's tension between our families now. I feel like I've done something wrong even though I haven't.

quote:

They've been together for three years and married for one. Until recently (five months ago) I was in a serious relationship that spanned my entire early-20's. I've only just started dating again. I told my sister that I was using Tinder and going on dates every weekend, and at first she reacted the normal sisterly way and asked me for all the fun details. Then a few days later, she sent me a text asking if she and BIL can set me up with someone.

I asked who, assuming it was a coworker or a neighbour or a distant friend. She told me that it was BIL's brother. I've only met his brother a few times. At the wedding festivities and maybe at a group dinner or two here and there. We've never really talked beyond hello or how are you. I don't have his number. I don't have him on social media. We're less than acquaintances.

In any case, I felt this was a terrible idea.

First, because if it doesn't work out or if someone is hurt by the other person, it could create tension in the family.

Second, because I don't know anything about him other than he's an engineer and loves staying indoors whereas I'm very outdoorsy and no offense to engineers but I've never really had any healthy dating experiences with one. Just so we're clear, my ex-boyfriend and all of his friends were engineers. Admittedly, this isn't a very good reason but it is something.

Third, because I'm simply not interested in him at all.

I expressed this to my sister and BIL, kindly, and at first they seemed to understand. Then, a week later, while I was out with them and a few of our mutual friends, BIL's brother rolls in unexpectedly. I didn't think anything of it at first, but then I noticed that he kept staring at me and he kept finding all these little excuses to stick to me the entire night and talk to me.

Turns out he liked me and he was the one who asked my sister and BIL to set us up. I'm surprised my sister went along with it. I found out about all of this later, when she and I were in the bathroom talking. She took those brief few minutes to try to convince me into giving the guy a chance. It's not about chances, though. It's just weird to me, the idea of dating my BIL's brother. I'm sure he's a great guy. I just don't see the point of dating him when there are so many other people out there who I won't run into at family gatherings and other events.
On top of that, I'm not looking for anything serious and I happen to know that he is.

I kindly asked my sister to let him and BIL know that I'm not interested. And that was that.

A couple of days later, I received a text message from an unknown number.

Him: Hey!

Me: Hello, who is this?

Him: It's Daniel. How are you?

Me: Oh, hey. I'm good.

Me: Not to be rude but how did you get my number?

Him: Right, sorry! My brother gave it to me. I was thinking we could go out for coffee?

I stopped, called my sister, asked why the gently caress they gave him my number and quickly discovered that they actually hadn't. Apparently he asked for it (which they provided screenshots of from both their phones) and they said no because I wasn't at all interested. My sister apologized, said she had no idea why he was texting me. BIL said he would handle it.

A few minutes later, I received another text from the guy.

Him: Listen I don't know what I ever did to you. I'm a nice person. I think you're astoundingly beautiful and I would really like to take you out for five minutes of coffee. That couldn't hurt, could it?

Me: Sorry, I'm not interested.

Him: Are you dating someone else?

Me: That's not really any of your business. I don't want to create problems, but I'm going to have to ask you to stop texting me.

Him: Okay.

Him: I don't care.

Him: About this guy you've started to date. You will never find anyone even half as good as me.

That was it. He stopped texting. I blocked his number the following morning and I sent my sister screenshots of the texts that he sent me. She apologized again, said she had no idea that he was going to be like that. It was quiet for about a week. No word from any of them.

Later, I went out with a great guy. While I was brushing my teeth at home afterward, I got a call my mother. She said that BIL's brother was spreading lies about me saying that he and I slept together a couple of weeks ago and that I didn't call him back because I'm seeing two other guys at the same time. My mother had enough sense not to believe it. She said that some neighbourhood lady told her. Apparently her son is friends with BIL's brother. That was how word got around to my mother.

I called my sister again (she and BIL were on a trip at the time) and told her everything. Apparently what happened is that after I sent my sister those text screenshots, she sent them to BIL to ask why his brother was wilding out, and then he later (accidentally) posted them in a group text between him, his brother and all of their friends. He meant to send them to his brother privately asking what he was thinking when he texted me like that. His brother got embarrassed. Their friends made fun of him, said he had been given the biggest L of the year by me, and then he said some bullshit about having slept with me.

My sister says that BIL didn't know, but I'm reluctant to believe that. He was part of that group text.

That's how it happened. Now there's tension between our families. BIL's brother still insists that we slept together. I didn't really care at first but after people started asking me about all of this, I realized how far it had spread. And now I'm wondering what I can do withoutcausing more tension. My sister and BIL keep apologizing to me, saying they're going to handle it, but I don't see how. It's too late now.

What should I do?

tl;dr He said we slept together when we didn't. I've only ever expressed disinterest where he is concerned. What should I do? My sister and BIL are very sorry for putting the idea of being with me into his head, and they said they'll handle it, but it's too late now.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

WampaLord posted:

My (25/F) sister (30/F) and BIL (32/M) kept trying to set me up with BIL's younger brother (25/M) to the point that there's tension between our families now. I feel like I've done something wrong even though I haven't.




Jesus gently caress

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
This is going to end in a restraining order or police investigation.

Every single person involved aside from (probably) the OP is dumb as hell.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

fruit on the bottom posted:

Got home from long trip to new tenants in apartment - MA

Holy poo poo, this is gold.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'll tell you the story of what happened two nights ago, and I'd like to know what you feel about it - especially if I was in the wrong.

My friend had a birthday the other day; he's part of my game group, and on birthdays we have birthday games. He loves Game of Thrones: the Board Game - he plays a couple of game daily on his phone, on some site that allows this, and has played hundreds, if not thousands of games. I've only ever played half a game, that was broken in the middle due to time constraints, about 3 years ago; however, I had on my shelf a copy bought as a gift for a third member of our game group, who left it on my shelf due to me being the host and organizer; so, after the birthday boy asked to play AGOT, I've arranged the night.

On the night of the game, we were six - Bday-boy, his BFF, the game-owner, my wife, myself, and the antagonist of this story, henceforth called Crevice. Crevice, like Bday-boy, has a long history with AGOT; he used to moderate an online game forum, and plays the game often online. Similarly, he had under his belt, hundreds, if not thousands, games played.

Being the host, I made dinner - Pasta Carbonara for the carnists, and Tofu stir-fried vegetable noodles in peanut butter for the vegans. My friends and wife set to the table, and I've served dinner. Game-Owner's dog was sick, so he brought her with him; I spent some time mediating between her and my cats, so by the time my cat had regained his composure and started curiously examining her from a safe distance, my food was already cold.

After dinner we've cleaned up, had some birthday cake, set-up the game, and I've explained the rules (Bday doesn't like explaining rules, so I've read up on them in advance). I was the Lannisters (I usually play red, and they are red, so it made sense), and Crevice was the Greyjoys. To make sure the game advanced in a brisk pace, we've limited each planning round to 7 minutes; due to our experience disparity, Bday was helping my wife and Crevice was helping BFF. I improvised. Earlier, while cooking, I overheard Crevice saying he is going to give the Lannisters a nasty surprise, and I assumed it meant he'll try to attack me by sea, so I've build two ship. I was wrong - he attacked a coastal zone I moved into, failing to notice his sea area was adjacent to it. Then came a Mustering, and on turn 2 Crevice attacked my home-area; he made a quick attack at my sea zone, easily defeating my waiting ships with a card that made his ships twice as strong, and than marched into my capital and broke it with a card that cancelled my card. Before he marched, I asked him not to do it - I said it would only lead us both to loss, as I'd be forced to counter attack with my meager surviving forces, and we'd both be stuck behind everyone, mutually destroying each other for the rest of the game. He did it anyway.

I was out of the game.

When I say "out of the game", I do not mean "Unable to win"; I mean "No longer had enough units on the board, could only place 2 orders, and could not participate in the game". I was out of the game, and looking forward to about 2 hours of people bickering around my table, with me not playing. I do not like to claim a game in unbalanced on the first play, but it felt unfair, in application if not mechanically; I am still unsure how I could have avoided it - even knowing his cards and future actions, I cannot find a way to counter his actions. Surely there is one, I just don't know it.

I have a very poor poker-face, and my anger was evident. I unkindly told Crevice that from now on, I will no longer be trying to win, just to make sure he lost. I told him I would do my best to destroy his night, as he had destroyed mine. He was visibly shaken - I'm larger than him, and a veteran, and my voice booms when I am angry. I do not shout, but I am loud.

Another Mustering card came up, and BFF took his time; 3 minutes into his deployment, discussing options and strategies with Crevice, I unkindly demanded that they finish up - they were playing outside of the agreed upon timer, essentially cheating; worse, having nothing to do for the next few hours, I did not want to prolong the game.

At this point, Game-Owner decided he no longer wants to play. My visible anger was making the room more and more depressing. I tried to rein myself in, and told them I'm going to the bathroom, to gather myself. I asked they be done with their turns and actions by the time I am back, as I have nothing to do anymore and do not wish this to take forever.

When I was back, they told me the game is over. They no longer wanted to play - I am unsure if it was because I was ruining the night for them, or if they simply didn't want to make me suffer.

At that point, I turned to Crevice, and told him what I think of him - that he is an rear end in a top hat, that he ruined the game night for me; that he set down to my table, eat my food, drank my wine, and than used his superior knowledge of the game to take me out of it, eliminate me completely, forcing me to stare at the air for the next few hours. I told him he is no longer a part of my life, that I will never play with him again, and that he will never sit to the table with me again. I then threw him out of my house.

There is now a dark could over my game-group; we are silent. I will not be hosting board game nights in the foreseeable future - I no longer wish to play. I am unsure if I was in the right - I am only human, and I err, but I feel Crevice acted like a bully; that he knew I could not resist his attacks, and that I will be out of the game completely; he choose to do it anyway. It felt abusive. There were other options; we could have made any sort of alliance, he could have advanced to other territories, and so on. I suspect that in some master-form of the game, this is the correct thing to do, but I am an inexperienced player, and this was not a tournament - ruining my night was not essential to him winning. There's an etiquette we all follow, putting on kid gloves when playing with new players; he didn't do it.

Was I wrong to be angry? Am I wrong to no-longer want anything to do with him? Was he anything other than an rear end in a top hat?

Many of you will say "it's just a game", and missing the point - it's not about the game, it's about being excluded from the game, banned from my own table. Assume for a moment Crevice would have brought a 5-player game, and insisted on playing it, telling me that I cannot play, and should just go do something else for the next 2 hours. You'd understand this is an rear end in a top hat thing to do - you'd understand that excluding someone like that is terrible, and even if he really likes and enjoys the 5p game, it's not cool to exclude someone from the game in the middle of a game night, doubly so if he's the host and can't even leave.

There is no difference between that and what he did to me; he excluded me from the game, removed me from the night, and sent me to the corner, to play with my phone. He used game-mechanics to do it instead of social-dynamics, so what? It's the same thing. It's not a cool thing to do.

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Milotic posted:

Let your daughter be disrespected and treated like poo poo so you can play real life Sylvanian families

I [25 F] broke up with fiance [25 M] 8 months ago after he cheated, both our families won't let me move on.

I feel this one got a bit overlooked in light of the derail that followed.

It really wouldn't surprise me if the mothers in this one had it all planed out that since they're best friends, they'd always be close and once their eventual children got old enough, they'd marry and then they'd be one big happy family but drat if the one daughter's just not following the unspoken plan by forgiving the cheater. It kinda reminds me of the one screencap that gets posted on occasion in the weirdos on the internet threads where the poster goes on about how she can't wait to have a gay child and how she plans on being so happy when they come out and wants to take them shopping for nailpolish and handcuffs so they're ready for their first relationship and how it'll be the most fun coming out story getting shared with the respective parties more caught up in thier fantasy of how things will play out instead of what the reality could be.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

quote:

I am unsure if I was in the right - I am only human, and I err, but I feel Crevice acted like a bully; that he knew I could not resist his attacks, and that I will be out of the game completely; he choose to do it anyway. It felt abusive.

Losing a board game = Abuse.

Holy gently caress this man needs all the therapy and anger management.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

WampaLord posted:

My (25/F) sister (30/F) and BIL (32/M) kept trying to set me up with BIL's younger brother (25/M) to the point that there's tension between our families now. I feel like I've done something wrong even though I haven't.




Whoever is Harriet the Spying my life, please stop I had moved past this :smith:

By the way, stop trying to set up your engineer siblings with other people you know. They don't appreciate it. Please stop.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Turtlicious posted:

I'll tell you the story of what happened two nights ago, and I'd like to know what you feel about it - especially if I was in the wrong.

My friend had a birthday the other day; he's part of my game group, and on birthdays we have birthday games. He loves Game of Thrones: the Board Game - he plays a couple of game daily on his phone, on some site that allows this, and has played hundreds, if not thousands of games. I've only ever played half a game, that was broken in the middle due to time constraints, about 3 years ago; however, I had on my shelf a copy bought as a gift for a third member of our game group, who left it on my shelf due to me being the host and organizer; so, after the birthday boy asked to play AGOT, I've arranged the night.

On the night of the game, we were six - Bday-boy, his BFF, the game-owner, my wife, myself, and the antagonist of this story, henceforth called Crevice. Crevice, like Bday-boy, has a long history with AGOT; he used to moderate an online game forum, and plays the game often online. Similarly, he had under his belt, hundreds, if not thousands, games played.

Being the host, I made dinner - Pasta Carbonara for the carnists, and Tofu stir-fried vegetable noodles in peanut butter for the vegans. My friends and wife set to the table, and I've served dinner. Game-Owner's dog was sick, so he brought her with him; I spent some time mediating between her and my cats, so by the time my cat had regained his composure and started curiously examining her from a safe distance, my food was already cold.

After dinner we've cleaned up, had some birthday cake, set-up the game, and I've explained the rules (Bday doesn't like explaining rules, so I've read up on them in advance). I was the Lannisters (I usually play red, and they are red, so it made sense), and Crevice was the Greyjoys. To make sure the game advanced in a brisk pace, we've limited each planning round to 7 minutes; due to our experience disparity, Bday was helping my wife and Crevice was helping BFF. I improvised. Earlier, while cooking, I overheard Crevice saying he is going to give the Lannisters a nasty surprise, and I assumed it meant he'll try to attack me by sea, so I've build two ship. I was wrong - he attacked a coastal zone I moved into, failing to notice his sea area was adjacent to it. Then came a Mustering, and on turn 2 Crevice attacked my home-area; he made a quick attack at my sea zone, easily defeating my waiting ships with a card that made his ships twice as strong, and than marched into my capital and broke it with a card that cancelled my card. Before he marched, I asked him not to do it - I said it would only lead us both to loss, as I'd be forced to counter attack with my meager surviving forces, and we'd both be stuck behind everyone, mutually destroying each other for the rest of the game. He did it anyway.

I was out of the game.

When I say "out of the game", I do not mean "Unable to win"; I mean "No longer had enough units on the board, could only place 2 orders, and could not participate in the game". I was out of the game, and looking forward to about 2 hours of people bickering around my table, with me not playing. I do not like to claim a game in unbalanced on the first play, but it felt unfair, in application if not mechanically; I am still unsure how I could have avoided it - even knowing his cards and future actions, I cannot find a way to counter his actions. Surely there is one, I just don't know it.

I have a very poor poker-face, and my anger was evident. I unkindly told Crevice that from now on, I will no longer be trying to win, just to make sure he lost. I told him I would do my best to destroy his night, as he had destroyed mine. He was visibly shaken - I'm larger than him, and a veteran, and my voice booms when I am angry. I do not shout, but I am loud.

Another Mustering card came up, and BFF took his time; 3 minutes into his deployment, discussing options and strategies with Crevice, I unkindly demanded that they finish up - they were playing outside of the agreed upon timer, essentially cheating; worse, having nothing to do for the next few hours, I did not want to prolong the game.

At this point, Game-Owner decided he no longer wants to play. My visible anger was making the room more and more depressing. I tried to rein myself in, and told them I'm going to the bathroom, to gather myself. I asked they be done with their turns and actions by the time I am back, as I have nothing to do anymore and do not wish this to take forever.

When I was back, they told me the game is over. They no longer wanted to play - I am unsure if it was because I was ruining the night for them, or if they simply didn't want to make me suffer.

At that point, I turned to Crevice, and told him what I think of him - that he is an rear end in a top hat, that he ruined the game night for me; that he set down to my table, eat my food, drank my wine, and than used his superior knowledge of the game to take me out of it, eliminate me completely, forcing me to stare at the air for the next few hours. I told him he is no longer a part of my life, that I will never play with him again, and that he will never sit to the table with me again. I then threw him out of my house.

There is now a dark could over my game-group; we are silent. I will not be hosting board game nights in the foreseeable future - I no longer wish to play. I am unsure if I was in the right - I am only human, and I err, but I feel Crevice acted like a bully; that he knew I could not resist his attacks, and that I will be out of the game completely; he choose to do it anyway. It felt abusive. There were other options; we could have made any sort of alliance, he could have advanced to other territories, and so on. I suspect that in some master-form of the game, this is the correct thing to do, but I am an inexperienced player, and this was not a tournament - ruining my night was not essential to him winning. There's an etiquette we all follow, putting on kid gloves when playing with new players; he didn't do it.

Was I wrong to be angry? Am I wrong to no-longer want anything to do with him? Was he anything other than an rear end in a top hat?

Many of you will say "it's just a game", and missing the point - it's not about the game, it's about being excluded from the game, banned from my own table. Assume for a moment Crevice would have brought a 5-player game, and insisted on playing it, telling me that I cannot play, and should just go do something else for the next 2 hours. You'd understand this is an rear end in a top hat thing to do - you'd understand that excluding someone like that is terrible, and even if he really likes and enjoys the 5p game, it's not cool to exclude someone from the game in the middle of a game night, doubly so if he's the host and can't even leave.

There is no difference between that and what he did to me; he excluded me from the game, removed me from the night, and sent me to the corner, to play with my phone. He used game-mechanics to do it instead of social-dynamics, so what? It's the same thing. It's not a cool thing to do.

I'm assuming this isn't funny even if you're familiar with the source material.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pvt.Scott posted:

I'm assuming this isn't funny even if you're familiar with the source material.

It's the story of a nerd loving flipping out because he loses a board game.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pvt.Scott posted:

I'm assuming this isn't funny even if you're familiar with the source material.

are you crevice?

e: you could probably just skip the play by play for teh game tho.

Turtlicious fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Jul 31, 2017

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's like Mario Party, except way more tedious to set up, keep track of and put away.

I'm reminded of one Japanese local multiplayer board game where if you're losing, you can make a deal with the devil and go full gently caress Everyone mode, wrecking everyone else's things scorched earth with Satanic superpowers. I'm sure that ended some relationships.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

quote:

 then he later (accidentally) posted them in a group text between him, his brother and all of their friends.

Yeah, right.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Okay, a warning in advance, this one is crazy long but holy poo poo, y'all. HOLY poo poo, Y'ALL.

Also, pretend I bolded the whole thing. Skip to the "incidents" parts if you want the most :stonk: things.

Me [27 M] with my fiancee' [35 F] of 2.5 years. Is my mom jealous of my fiancee' and/or being inappropriate with me?

quote:

I will try break up key points in case you don’t want to read rambling but most of it is relevant to me, sorry for the novel. I also couldn't find anywhere else suitable enough to post this, so re-direct me if necessary.

In case this matters, I’ll get this out of the way. I am a 27 year old male, I am 1 of 2 son’s out of 5 kids. I am not the youngest; however I am 4th born (2nd to last). My older brother (2nd oldest) moved out just fine and had absolutely no problems with my mom doing this. I cannot say that I am closer to her than he was, so that can’t really be a factor. However there is an age gap, he is 7 years older than I am, and by the time my parents divorced he was almost out of the house (he was 16, I was 9). My parents divorced when my younger sister was 6, and even though my dad has been around here and there for support, my mom was the one who raised us on her own.

I dated sparsely in high school and college, my main focus was staying at a 4.0 and my staying driven in athletics (baseball/football/swimming). I have always been an athlete since I can remember, it was just my passion. I also think it was my mom’s way of helping me re-direct all of my energy because I was always very energetic/rambunctious and was easily getting into trouble if I was bored or had no way of releasing my energy in a productive way.

Once I graduated college a couple years ago, I was able to secure a decent job and officially move out of my parents house.

This is the first time I encountered odd behavior from my mother. She was an absolute mess that I was moving out, it was the first time that she uttered the words - “You’re going to find another woman, and you’re going to forget about me.”
At the time I was single, I’d had girlfriends on and off (a couple of months here and there), but nobody I ever took home to introduce to my mom. I thought she was just being emotional, maybe because after me, my sister would be graduating soon and moving too? I don’t know, I pushed it all aside in my head at the time.

A few months into living on my own I met this fantastic girl, I fell head over heals in love with her. She is 8 years older than I am, and she has been nothing but good for me. After a few months of dating her, I decided it was time to bring her home to meet the family. My mom disliked her from day one, she was “too old”, and she kept trying to say that all she is doing is “distracting me from my work”. I ensured my mom over and over that my girlfriend is extremely supportive of my career, and she is my number one cheerleader, and even helps me when I need it.

My mom did not want to hear any of this, this woman was already the devil in my mom’s mind and that was set in stone...So, 13 months into the relationship I invite my girlfriend to move in with me. The lease on her apartment was up and it was MY surprise to ask her to move in with me, it was nothing that she had brought up. She said yes, we moved her stuff in, all was good.

A couple months later we went to my mom’s house for Christmas, and that’s when I broke the news to everybody that my girlfriend had moved in. My mom lost her mind in front of everyone, she shouted at me, “See, I told you that she is no good for you! All she is doing is using you!” and she looked straight at my girlfriend and called her a maneating bitch who is just trying to “suck the life out of her son” and she said, “Get out of my house, jezebel!”

My mom does not talk like that, so everyone was shocked. I stood up for my girlfriend and told my mom that it was disrespectful and untrue, that she owed my girlfriend an apology. My mom broke down and said, “And see! She’s already turning you against me!” and she locked herself in her bedroom for the rest of the night. She blames my girlfriend for ruining Christmas 2015.

I’ve asked my mom to get to know my girlfriend, and that I would not tolerate the behavior. I stated that I’m in love with my fiancee and that I would stay with her regardless of what that meant. My mom has been trying really hard to be civil - even if it’s very obviously forced. Everything was getting A LOT better, so I wasn’t too concerned about what would happen next.

On our 2nd anniversary (Oct. 2016) I proposed marriage, she said yes. We waited until thanksgiving to break the news because my fiancee jokes that she doesn’t want to be the grinch who stole Christmas again. My mom forcibly congratulated us but became cold and distant, she was upset. Nobody was getting her to talk about it, so we all just pushed it off and left it alone.

This is when poo poo gets really weird….recently (2 weeks ago) I have had to undergo surgery. My fiancee had to go out of town for a few months on trip that has been planned for a while with her mom and aunt overseas. We set it up that I’d be staying with my mom for a couple of weeks for my recovery, no big deal, everything is fine.

Examples of different weird behavior are separated by *'s:

My mom has done nothing but cause problems between my fiancee and I. She’s also gotten very...I don’t know. Indecent. My fiancee knows I don’t like pain pills, for the same reason I don’t like alcohol or any other drug - I don’t like the “out of control” nature of drugs.

INCIDENT 1: (forcing drugs on me) On the same night of my surgery my mom came in the room at night around 1am, I was video chatting with my fiancee. She said, “Lights off, time for your meds. Shut that thing off.” and closed the lid. I argued vehemently for 15 minutes about not taking it and she refused to leave the room until I took it in front of her. I took it, she left the room, I text my fiancee what happened and she said “That’s odd.” and I was basically drugged out of my drat mind from that pill.

INCIDENT 2: (Trying to be inappropriate with me / got caught / forbidding me to have contact with my fiancee now) - Night 3 (because she kept me drugged until that point), I was on video chat with my fiancee, but my mom did not know this. She said she’d stay on with me even after I slept for a bit, just to make sure I was resting peacefully and that comforted me greatly. At this point, all I really wanted was my fiancee. I had fallen asleep and my mom came in the room in a very almost...slinky nightgown. She came up to me, sat on the edge of the bed, leaned over me and started caressing my face/neck and saying how handsome I am etc...I kept moving my face away because she kept trying to place a kiss on my lips or at least appeared to be. I finally said, “God mom, knock it off.” and then my fiancee spoke up and said, “What the hell are you doing?” my mom got pissed, walked over and said, “You’re done, I’m no longer letting you control my son.” and she slammed the computer shut and took it. She again made me take the meds in front of her, but when she left I spit it out. She checked on me every 30 minutes or so and at one point sat down and watched me sleep for a good while, even though I was pretending to sleep. I didn’t want to “wake up” because I was very uncomfortable.

INCIDENT 3: (stealing any resource I have to make outer contact) I eventually fell asleep. I woke up and my cell phone was gone, along with my lap top charger (since she took it the night before), and she said, “Any calls you have will be through me, you don’t need to worry about talking to anyone right now. You’re in my care, that’s all you need.” I asked to speak with my fiancee and she said, “No, she is ruining your life. She is coming between you and I, and no woman is supposed to come before your mother. I have told you what to do and you don’t listen to me, she tells you to do something else and you shove me aside. That’s not right!” she was noticeably angry and like she was losing her mind, so I just laid there quietly and listened to her yell at me about nonsense for what felt like over an hour.

INCIDENT 4: (trying to see me naked and trying to force me to show her my naked body / let her bathe me) - She finally went and made me lunch. I barely touched the food, I had no appetite. She was very upset that I didn’t eat the food. She threw it away angrily and said “Time for your medicine.” and I said, “No thank you, I need to take a shower or a bath. I haven’t done so in a few days and I don’t like that, so I need to be coherent enough to do that.”

She said, “Honey, that’s what I’m for. If you wanted a bath, you should have asked. I can even give you a sponge bath if you’d like.” and I said, “No, I don’t want you to do that.” and she said, “Well let me help you to the restroom.” Once she had the water ran and everything she left and closed the door. I got naked and in the water obviously and started to bathe, she came in and sat on the toilet and just watched me. I covered up as much as possible and sat there awkwardly still. I said it was making me uncomfortable and she said, “No need to be uncomfortable, I am your mother. I used to change your diapers you know, it’s nothing I haven’t seen before.” and I said, “Mom, that’s different now.” and she said, “Bull poo poo, it is no different at all.”

She left to go get me a 2nd towel that I asked for, which I then immediately took the opportunity to get out and wrap a towel around my waist. She came in, saw me out and covered, looked me up and down and sighed. She then smiled and said, “You know, you have your father’s build. You look just like he did at your age, I wonder if you’re the same EVERYWHERE...you know what I mean?” I just rolled my eyes and said, “Uh...I need to get dressed.” and she wanted to help me to my room but I pushed passed her and hobbled my way in there, but she followed before I could close the door (no lock anyhow).

Then she wanted to help me get dressed, and was still making jokes about seeing me naked and how it’s okay. She even said that she knows I have “nothing to be ashamed of” and that I’m quite “impressive”, so she had no clue why I was so ashamed to show myself. I very angrily snapped when she tried to pull my towel off (causing me to fall onto the bed) and I yelled, “I’m fine, let me get dressed by myself, get out!” and she got huffy and left, she angrily said, “Why won’t you just make me happy by letting me help you?!” and then slammed the door behind her.

The last few days have been a little easier because I’ve been working, which requires me to have my phone and laptop. It’s been easy to avoid her by acting way busier than I truly am, and I’ve been secretly talking to my fiancee about everything and she thinks it’s loving weird too.

INCIDENT 5: (Touching me inappropriately)
My brother stopped by today and brought his 6 year old daughter. I was able to get down to the floor in the living room and play with her for a while. We were playing with my old race car track and matchbox cars, and my brother had to leave the house for a while. My mom got down on the floor with us and was playing too, and I was basically leaning back against the couch. My niece said “Let’s pretend the cars can fly!” and so I was flying my car around mimicking her and my mom was doing so too. Then out of nowhere my mom dove her car down to land on my thigh and basically slid it all the way up to my crotch, dropped the car between my legs, fumbled, grabbed my junk while “feeling around for the car”. It happened in a split second, I jumped and basically fell over and pulled away, and my niece started laughing and asked why I did that. My mom said, “Grammy tickled uncle cmjog10, he’s very ticklish!” so my niece tackled me and started to tickle my sides and armpits (normal ticklish spots). For my nieces sake I laughed a little but she wasn’t convinced I was ticklish, so my mom said, “No honey, only mommy’s know where their babies are ticklish.” and the convo was dropped until my brother and his wife (SIL) came back.

My brother helped me into my room and my bed. I asked him if he had a place to stay because I was feeling a little claustrophobic with mom. He apologized that he didn’t. My SIL came in with my niece to say goodbye and noticed I looked nervous and weary. She asked me what was wrong, my brother told her I was tired of being at my mom’s and she just nodded her head and said, “I wish we could help. Maybe K? (oldest sister).” and then my niece said, “Hey mommy! Gramma tickled uncle cmjog10 and said that only mommy’s know how to tickle their babies, is that true?” and my brother said, “No, because I tickle you all the time!” and made tickle fingers and a monster growl. They all innocently laughed and the conversation was dropped, I was too uncomfortable to talk about it any further anyway.

INCIDENT 6: (romanticizing us? more awkward inappropriate behavior and touching / more forced meds)

After they left I again skipped my meds, my mom made dinner (my fav to win me over?), and insisted we enjoy it together at the table since we haven’t had dinner as a “family” in such a long time. I only agreed because I’m sick to death of eating over my drat TV tray in my bed. She was very...I don’t know if you want to say touchy feely. She kept rubbing my hand, or if she’d get me something, she’d caress my arm or face when she came back and she kissed my cheek several times. A couple times she’d “miss my cheek” and kiss my neck. I tensed up every time she did, which she seemed to notice and when she tried once more I asked her to please stop, she laughed it off and cleaned the table.

She asked if I’d like to join her to watch TV and I said that I had too much work to do, so I just went to my room. She came in to say goodnight 2 hours ago basically wearing a nighty and a robe, again that was too skimpy. She said, “Why don’t you just leave your door open tonight honey? That way I can hear if you need anything, it’s much easier for me to check on you if it’s open too.” I argued that I can’t sleep with the door open, and she said, “Then leave it ajar like this!” About 30 minutes later she stormed back in my room and handed me my pills, she said, “You better take your meds tonight, I’m sick of you not following the doctor’s orders. He said not to let the pain get out of control, and you are in a lot of pain. I need you to go to sleep!” I asked her why she NEEDED me to go to sleep, she looked caught and said, "My baby needs his rest, you need plenty of sleep to feel much better." Again, I had to take them in front of her. I accidentally swallowed it, but once she left I was able to throw up some of it into the trash.

I don’t know what to do. Am I being paranoid or is any of this weird to anybody else? She’s NEVER done anything like this my entire life. She is adamant that I am ending things with my fiancee, and what she doesn’t know is that my fiancee is coming home early to get me in a few days. I am both happy that she’s coming home to get me, yet I’m dreading it. My mom seems off her drat rocker and I am nervous about the outcome.

I’m sorry for the long read, but I needed to get this out a non-bias audience.

tl;dr: Mom is jealous of my fiancee, I had surgery and needed help with recovery. My fiancee couldn’t he here, and my mom is acting very weird and inappropriate with me, and I am freaked the gently caress out. My fiancee is coming to rescue me soon, but I’m fearful of what my mom might try to pull. Am I being paranoid or is any of this weird to anyone else?

HOLY loving poo poo! What in the hell is wrong with this lady?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

WampaLord posted:

My (25/F) sister (30/F) and BIL (32/M) kept trying to set me up with BIL's younger brother (25/M) to the point that there's tension between our families now. I feel like I've done something wrong even though I haven't.

You can talk about dodging bullets all day long but when your brother in law is a gun youll always have problems.

DragQueenofAngmar
Dec 29, 2009

You shall not pass!
holy poo poo, the guy who's trapped in a house by his drug-pushing Jocasta-mom is live updating his escape plans

now this is some entertainment folks

e: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationsh...=comment_header

Dunning Krugerrand
Dec 23, 2015

purestrain pyrite



For real guys, I know it's long but read it anyway. The mom isn't just jealous, she's literally trying to drug and seduce her son while he's recovering form surgery. :barf:

He's not just sneaking out to escape either, this is gonna be huge and public.

quote:

So basically this is the plan...my girlfriend cannot get here until mid morning (9:30am and it's 3am now), but she's bringing her father, her brother, and law enforcement with her. They are going to explain the situation to law enforcement before arrival so that the police can evaluate the best plan of action for getting HER help while I'm also being safely removed from the situation. I'm going to update as things process.

Dunning Krugerrand fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 31, 2017

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

[quote="“Malachite_Dragon”" post="“474883868”"]
In the words of the FWP thread: Just jerk off, you loving lunatic.
[/quote]

FWP? Friends with Penises?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Countdown to the mom going completely ballistic and probably assaulting a cop, right here in the thread.

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul
Bringing the cops is a good idea cause otherwise that mom was gonna skin his fiancee and turn her into a throw pillow

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


And that's why the character in Misery didn't give the guy Internet or phone access.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
No updates yet, though the original post has been deleted :f5:

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
"Norman! Its time for your medicine!"

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The most electra-fying r/relationships tale yet?

FormerPoster
Aug 5, 2004

Hair Elf
UPDATE: "I didn't delete [the first post]. The mods removed it. I am safe, but exhausted."

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

WampaLord posted:

It's the story of a nerd loving flipping out because he loses a board game.

I figured it was an extended GoT joke, but apparently, I was wrong. I just took details like dude being betrayed on his birthday, a faction being rendered powerless but trying to spoil things from the sidelines, the OP being butthurt that his foes acted without honor and that some dude got designated some dumb poo poo like loving CREVICE in the story to be indicators of fiction. :shrug:

Can't win 'em all!

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Naerasa posted:

UPDATE: "I didn't delete [the first post]. The mods removed it. I am safe, but exhausted."

Whats with reddit mods deleting posts and preventing updates? Just seems counter productive.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Outrail posted:

Whats with reddit mods deleting posts and preventing updates? Just seems counter productive.

I guess they don't want to turn it into diaries but it does suck for long chains of events.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Outrail posted:

Whats with reddit mods deleting posts and preventing updates? Just seems counter productive.

I would imagine with this one at least, there's now pending legal issues

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Outrail posted:

Whats with reddit mods deleting posts and preventing updates? Just seems counter productive.

Don't want to clutter up Reddit with extraneous posts! How are people going to effectively point-whore with focus spread over three separate threads? You can't exploit a hot streak and you've got to set up your ground work all over again for the same topic!

FormerPoster
Aug 5, 2004

Hair Elf

webmeister posted:

I would imagine with this one at least, there's now pending legal issues

Yeah it's probably that

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Pvt.Scott posted:

I figured it was an extended GoT joke, but apparently, I was wrong. I just took details like dude being betrayed on his birthday, a faction being rendered powerless but trying to spoil things from the sidelines, the OP being butthurt that his foes acted without honor and that some dude got designated some dumb poo poo like loving CREVICE in the story to be indicators of fiction. :shrug:

Can't win 'em all!

Note that it wasn't even the OP's birthday, he was throwing the party for his friend. So he ruined his friend's favorite game that was specifically arranged for their birthday.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
The real reason is that OP probably improperly tagged the post title for ages/genders/subtype or forgot to TL;DR and got autodeleted.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug
Hey guess where I found this.

quote:

Well, I know we didn't meet because of Reddit. It was on Trump's twitch stream. I remember it so clearly: it was my first time visiting his stream and I wanted new frens to play with so I posted my battletag. You added me and that's when we started. We always thought this was fate. You rarely watched Trump's stream and it was also my first time there. People were spamming their battletags but you found mine. I was the only person you added.

We had an amazing time together. I'm not going to go in too much detail about why it was amazing because you know why.

I've already deleted and blocked you from all my social media accounts except Reddit so I'm posting this here.

We were perfect and very compatible. My friends begged that I don't let you leave me... and to try my hardest to keep you in touch. I can't and I won't. You aren't ready to be in a relationship. You believe that physical connection matters greater than emotional connection. I know we are long distance. I know that it may take years before we can meet. I loving know that our situation is difficult. I know it hurts. I know it is risky. I am willing to take the risk unlike you. I know that when we meet there's a chance we might not work. I know that if this happens you will think that we wasted years for nothing... But, most importantly, I know that long distance relationships are not impossible.

But HOLYYY poo poo dude? You can't say that the reason I can't remain friends with you is that I'm too immature to move on. You have never been in a relationship before. I've been in three. I can't remain friends with you NOT because I am too "immature." I can't do it because it will hurt me too much. It's not immature to dislike pain.

You were selfish in your decisions too. You broke up with me because you want to experience life the way "it should be." That ideal life you are talking about is dating people in person and holding hands and going to movies... loving hell lmao. That is not all what relationships are about. It's also selfish you want to stay friends because it'll make you happy to have someone to fall back to if your next relationships don't work. I am NOT someone to fall back to. You can't put me on hold to experience other people.

I'm going to miss having matching hearthstone related wallpapers. Thanks for crafting Ysera on your account when I couldn't afford her on my own. I'm gonna miss telling you hearthstone pick up jokes. I am going to miss putting murlocs on your face to cover up your pimples. I'm going to miss all your bitching. Your terrible jokes. I loved your worm's eye view selfies too lol. I mean they did look kinda bad sometimes but I loved them nonetheless :).

Thank you for making me the happiest. I felt like a princess even though it was only for a year and a bit. You did most things perfectly. I 100% would do it again in the future. But only once you understand the relationship part.

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Patrick Spens fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jul 31, 2017

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Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Patrick Spens posted:

Hey guess where I found this.

quote:

We were perfect and very compatible. My friends begged that I don't let you leave me... and to try my hardest to keep you in touch. I can't and I won't. You aren't ready to be in a relationship. You believe that physical connection matters greater than emotional connection. I know we are long distance. I know that it may take years before we can meet. I loving know that our situation is difficult. I know it hurts. I know it is risky. I am willing to take the risk unlike you. I know that when we meet there's a chance we might not work. I know that if this happens you will think that we wasted years for nothing... But, most importantly, I know that long distance relationships are not impossible.

Top of the Hearthstone (digital card game) subreddit

:ironicat:

sounds like this guy/girl needs to spend less money on hearthstone boosters and more money on bus or plane tickets

LDRs have a 90-180 day lifespan, if you don't gently caress by the expiration date you're doomed

Really though one or both of the people involved in this story could have saved their relationship with a relatively small financial commitment, but online relationships are largely attractive to the kind of people who fear and shun the outside world and any kind of change; the OP was literally not ready to be in a (real) relationship or they would have found a way to make it work over the course of a couple of years.

Mirthless fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jul 31, 2017

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