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STAC Goat posted:Jessica is intending to go into DR and (a) complain about this apparently unprecedented level of abuse and (b) discuss DORing. Cody's going to go with her and if she walks he's walking with her. She's just not doing it right now because she doesn't want to give them the satisfaction of seeing her do it. Knowing her she is probably trying to be an actor and just does whatever she does "only to make money." Being a "VIP concierge" isn't really the kind of "career" that will be hurt by anything other than how she looks.
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Jess mentioned that if they quit they would have to pay for their hotel and flight to LA that was already paid for, then we got fish.
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Doesn't she live in the area already? She wouldn't need a plane. Edit: Also, I doubt their egos will let them walk out anyway. They are having a tantrum is all. Between their egos and production, they will likely do nothing but continue to whine and be miserable and make everyone else miserable. But unfortunately, since everyone is so bad at this game this year, one of these two idiots is almost guaranteed HOH next week, which will make things even worse. ToastyPotato fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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I don't know what their contracts say but quitting probably has some pretty steep consequences including reimbursement for whatever CBS may feel like demanding and a pretty much lifetime ban from any of their poo poo. I'd guess that's Jess' "career concern" since she name drops celebrities and acts like a big shot. She was talking yesterday about how sad she was that she missed Nicole Aniston's Memorial Day party. So as much as she talks about "black balling" the other HGs the reality is she has no power to do that and she's just posturing, but CBS could probably black ball her from quite a bit. But yeah, I don't think Jess' ego will actually let her. Cody would because he just hates people and wants to disappear. But Cody wants to be the star and walking would be walking away from that.
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What is DORing? loving shocker Jess talks like she's some celebrity but she's a waitress. If she walks away from this, no one is going to want to deal with her for anything.
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"Drop On Request", I think. Its the official contractual term for "quitting" in the BB contracts that just entered into BB fandom lingo.
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There are 100% things in the contract that discourage quitting, which is why so few people have ever done it. Jess seems like the kind of person that relishes being "connected" so it is highly unlikely she would walk away from something like this and damage potential connections. The biggest of which could be with any agencies attached to the show (which could easily extend beyond the reach of CBS).
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Christmas: She [Jess] still has the ability to turn this around. Raven: No. Elena: No. Faustian Bargain posted:What is DORing? Well, she's less a "waitress" and more a "bottle girl" and "concierge." Which in some cases is kind of type of escort thing, I think. The VIP Concierge thing deals with a celebrity clientele and a lot of her namedropping about partying with athletes and stuff is probably true. Its just, she's not some big wig. She's just Janelle.
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Yeah, I think so. BB and CBS seems to use a bunch of the same casting pools. So they probably have a connection into them the same they have a connection to that same modeling agency that Nat, Pao Pao, and Gina Marie came from, or the odd Texas A&M/agency connection Corey and Caleb had, or that Meg is friends with Survivor's Andrea, or whatever. Everything's calmed down now and Paul is trying telling them he's been instructed that they can't incite them to try and quit. Josh is saying the same thing and everyone seems to be getting called in one by one. So obviously production is worried they're going to walk and is trying to manage it. Paul says they can keep loving with them but they have to find the line. Kevin and a few others were also discussing that if they keep it up it can easily look bad and abusive. So I think its probably dead for now. It could stir up now that a lot of Jess and Cody's secret poo poo has been exposed and someone might confront them, but I think they've all been mellowed for now.
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STAC Goat posted:Raven just SNAPPED! What was this about? Details, please.
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Paul talks to Mark and Elena about the state of things. In the mess Elena found out that Jessica was implicating that "people" were leaking information to her and, well, duh. So Elena isn't happy about things. Mark also doesn't understand why Alex came at him* and is whiny about how he gets in trouble if he speaks up or doesn't. Paul advises them to separate from Jody and both say if they win HOH they're putting Jody up. Mark wants to know who told Alex about the Jess/Hex/Alex deal and blames Christmas, but Paul says it was him. Mark then asks why Christmas is saying Jess can repair her game and they all agree that Jess is the target next week over Cody. Paul brings up how Jody call Josh a sexual predator but Jess sticks her finger up people's asses and he's told her to stop. That's actually been a low key thing I've just kind of ignored. *That's complicated. Partly its that Alex is mad Mark made such a big thing of working with her and Jason during her HOH week and then flipped the very next week to go back to Cody and hasn't talked game with her since. But Alex is also super pissed that Mark is gunning for her and was making deals to target her next week, which is complicated for Paul, Christmas, and Maven since they were doing it too but told Alex it was bullshit but it was real for Marlena. Indoor lockdown so Jody have to abandon their hammock "as far away as humanly possible from everyone" sanctuary. Jess is still weighing the pros and cons of quitting and I'm becoming more certain its not happening. Oh, apparently someone was screaming over the wall. Might have been "America loves Jess, Paul needs to go." But who cares? Jess might because she thought it might be a sign from God. Alex screamed back.
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Your Taint posted:What was this about? Details, please. Man, it was a mess and it was ugly and I don't really feel like going back and recapping. Basically Jess started attacking people and poo poo, which led to Paul confronting her. Jess told him people were leaking poo poo to her and talking bad about him so Paul went and told people that. Then Josh went to have one of his "I'm a human being and I love you" talks with Jess but Cody got so fed up he stormed off. But then the other HGs were asking him poo poo and he lied about it. Paul "revealed" that Jess had made a deal with them to let Cody go and target Alex next week. Alex questioned that which brought Jess out who started yelling that she'd face everything. So they hit her with 40 days of lies and backstabbing. She screamed at Alex a bunch and then Alex mentioned that Jess tried to throw Raven under the bus about stealing Alex's stuff. Jess tried to dance around it and Raven just SNAPPED. She started screaming at Jess and going hard and Cody dragged Jess away. Then they retreated to the hammock while everyone else sat on the other side of the yard yelling questions and insults while they mumbled under their breaths. It was an ugly poo poo show and just the culmination of 41 days of hostility and resentment over the poo poo Jody has done, stoked into big flames by Paul whose entire game is about creating public conflict and big messy targets. In a normal season all the poo poo Jody have done would have gotten them evicted long ago but with the Battle Back and Hex they've managed to persist as the unified house villains for so long that it just all exploded.
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Going to be interesting to see how this is edited. Jess and Cody have not gotten an ugly edit at all so far (the ugly things they say about people, and Cody's ugly opinions on things) so all of this hostility is really going to come off like just plain bullying if they play this wrong. I mean, the Josh stuff has not been edited super well. Wasn't the pots and pans thing kind of planned by Paul and goaded on by people? Tonight's episode just made it seem like Josh spontaneously decided to do that.
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I don't remember anyone coaxing him to start, but they might have. They encouraged him to continue but they kind of implied that with how much everyone was laughing. The timeline's a little screwy because Josh started Thursday morning and then the second round and Mark swinging at him came right after nominations. That's more or less when the house started really encouraging Josh to gently caress with them, I think. I don't really expect them to show that happening but they might because they've been airing Paul's "I'm manipulating everyone" narrative. So him manipulating Josh to gently caress with them would fit in and I could see him boasting about it. I don't think Jody have gotten an ugly edit but I think they've gotten a fairly honest edit. We haven't seen the ugly personal poo poo or non game bigotry but we rarely do unless it affects game directly. And this fight wasn't technically about that. Alex was mad about Jess targeting her. Raven went off on Alex throwing her under the bus to Alex. Josh was mad about Cody and Jess bullying him. Christmas was mad about Cody walking out on her injury announcement. That's all stuff that's aired or can easily be aired. There's a lot of personal petty stuff under it all but that's not necessary for the narrative. I don't know. I think Cody has been a clear villain all season. Jess a bit less so, but still a decent bid. But I'm biased by the feeds so maybe I'm wrong. I don't think they will have a problem crafting this to show it just as an explosion of a lot of stuff manipulated by Paul and started by Jess snapping at Raven over nothing. They may choose a different editorial direction, but I think its fairly straight forward. Just one of those scenes where we get a couple of quick "Day XX" flashbacks which have been common this season since Cody and Jess deny reality a lot and get called on it. This was basically just a lot of that happening at once. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Wait, Jess has been told to stop putting her finger up people's butts? I got to get these feeds....
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Its apparently some weird thing she does to people. I've heard Paul and Kevin complain about it a couple of times. Then during the fight people brought up how Jody call Josh a "sexual predator" but he's not the one sticking his finger up people's asses. Jessica is like this really, really overtly, pushy sexual person who like mounts people and grabs people and stuff. If she was a guy instead of a hot girl it would definitely be a thing.
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STAC Goat posted:Josh is outside trying to incite Cody by talking about how the house would be better if Cody had never come back and you can't learn social skills in the house (which is kind of funny because Josh clearly has learned social skills in the house). Paul has been trying to make hay out of Cody getting in his face ever since it happened. The funny thing is when Paul told him to leave, and Cody finally did and walked out, Paul followed him out and called him a pussy for not doing anything. So when Cody's angry he's a dangerous hothead who can't be in the house, but when he backs off instead of getting violent he's a pussy. Part of that is Paul's ego, but part of it is probably gameplay, the strategy of making Cody and Mark such pariahs that Elena and Jess will cut them loose, at which point Elena and Jess replace them at the bottom. Then it will probably be someone else, rinse and repeat. Anyway, I haven't been watching at all lately but from what you say, Jess is throwing grenades and causing poo poo, but everything else I'm reading says there's a big bullying issue going on and production had to tell people to cool it. Jess has shot up to #1 on jokers and Cody is #3.
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I personally think a lot of these houseguests are pieces of poo poo. Cody and Jess are definitely based on things they say behind people's back but planning to "bully" somebody is some poo poo. And using somebodies military service as ammo is some low poo poo. Said it before this is my first year so maybe the show tends to have some low morale people but I don't know how much more of this poo poo I can watch. It makes me uncomfortable. Maybe I'm a pussy.
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CancerStick posted:And using somebodies military service as ammo is some low poo poo. This hasn't really happened though. It's been used as an excuse for Cody's behaviour, then maybe some rationalizing, but no one is targeting him because of his military service.
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I don't like Jody at all really, but it looked super bad as 10 people are on one side of the yard yelling, laughing and mocking two people holding each other on a hammock. That looked super bad, I understood what the whole plan was but it became a mob mentality situation. It was bullying pretty bad.
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CancerStick posted:I personally think a lot of these houseguests are pieces of poo poo. Cody and Jess are definitely based on things they say behind people's back but planning to "bully" somebody is some poo poo. And using somebodies military service as ammo is some low poo poo. You're not really wrong. Big Brother doesn't cast sane, calm, rational people with a lot of sensitively and empathy. This is bad. Its not AS bad as its been. I don't think its as bad as it was last season. For the most part before today the worst thing most of the HGs besides Paul, Cody, and Jess had done was Josh's pots and pans. This is a really weird situation because in any other season Cody would have been gone weeks ago and a lot of these issues would have died. Or he'd be headed out the door this week and they'd be calm. All this tension exists because they're so frustrated that he's got a third life thanks to the Hex and they just have to keep dealing with this and might have to into Jury. I've been saying it for weeks and I said it 2 weeks ago when Cody won Battle Back and Jess won the Hex. Jody in the house keeps the game in a frozen place of frustrated anger and resentment at them. And it blew up. Fast Luck posted:Anyway, I haven't been watching at all lately but from what you say, Jess is throwing grenades and causing poo poo, but everything else I'm reading says there's a big bullying issue going on and production had to tell people to cool it. Jess has shot up to #1 on jokers and Cody is #3. STAC Goat posted:It was an ugly poo poo show and just the culmination of 41 days of hostility and resentment over the poo poo Jody has done, stoked into big flames by Paul whose entire game is about creating public conflict and big messy targets. In a normal season all the poo poo Jody have done would have gotten them evicted long ago but with the Battle Back and Hex they've managed to persist as the unified house villains for so long that it just all exploded. You don't have to agree with me. I've got my bias like everyone else. Jokers and places like that definitely think this is a big case of people bullying innocent people. I think that Jessica started a fight and it got out of her control and turned very ugly because a lot of people she had lied to and treated badly started unloading 40 days of poo poo. Paul was also instigating a lot of poo poo and I think he IS a bully and have said it many times and he was pushing everyone for a big group bullying session today. And as I've said, today was an ugly shitshow and everyone looked bad. But I think it was a big blowup of 41 days of pressure. But like, if you have a recap that doesn't start with "Jessica snapped at Raven because she incorrectly thought she was mocking her" or "Jessica yelled at Jason for attacking Cody in the POV Ceremony and brought his wife into it" then I question the truthfullness of those recaps. Like, the entire reason I wasn't recapping this and haven't been recapping a ton lately is because I'm grossed out by Jody vs Paul and want it to be over. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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KNew posted:I don't like Jody at all really, but it looked super bad as 10 people are on one side of the yard yelling, laughing and mocking two people holding each other on a hammock. That looked super bad, I understood what the whole plan was but it became a mob mentality situation. It was bullying pretty bad. So, Jess is in the kitchen getting in arguments with people. At a certain point, Raven's going off at her and Cody comes in and shepherds Jess away to the backyard. At that moment, I don't think any of the other houseguests has done anything worse than Jessica has, and they've all just been arguing with her back and forth. But as Cody and Jess shuffle away outside, Paul starts congratulating Raven for going off, and then starts telling Josh to get the pots and pans, and then says Jessica asked if they had any questions, why doesn't everyone go outside and give them some questions. He says they called you all my dogs, why don't we go show them how you're my dogs, these people cost you jury, let's go show them what we think. Everyone else is still basically just milling around in the kitchen. After a couple minutes, Paul finally gets the whole house outside where Cody and Jess sit quietly on a hammock as Raven screams at them, Josh bangs pots and pans, Paul does a berating narrative of the whole thing. Cody and Jess just keep sitting talking quietly between themselves while everyone carries on. It's a very ugly scene, and all of it is orchestrated by Paul.
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STAC Goat posted:But like, if you have a recap that doesn't start with "Jessica snapped at Raven because she incorrectly thought she was mocking her" or "Jessica yelled at Jason for attacking Cody in the POV Ceremony and brought his wife into it" then I question the truthfullness of those recaps. I mean, the recap that Fast Luck just described started with Josh pots-and-pans-ing Jess and Cody (although somewhat good-naturedly - they were all laughing!) before Paul invites Jessica out to the kitchen to get interrogated by literally everyone else in the house. Maybe I'm cherry-picking, too, but there's no way I can come to the conclusion that Jody are bringing this on themselves, or that they somehow 'deserve' the treatment they're receiving.
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Yeah, all that poo poo after Jody went to the hammock was ugly as hell and orchestrated by Paul. And definitely well within the world of "bullying" IMO. The rub is, IMO, that before the fight in the kitchen Jessica came at Raven and Jason unprovoked and over perceived slights. That then started a ball rolling that led to Paul and Josh confronting Jody in civil (if heated) discussions. During the Josh one Cody started insulting Josh and Jess sent him away (to her credit, to try and keep it civil). Then Alex (provoked by Paul) asked Cody if he knew Jess had made a deal to target her even though Cody and Jess had just moments before told Alex they had never gone against her. That's what started Alex calling out Cody and then Jess on lies which then led to Raven blowing up. Then all those other lies and grievances started pouring out in that ugly outside scene. And while Paul was definitely pushing it he didn't create the reasons Raven and Christmas and Alex and Josh were so angry. I think everyone looked really bad today and I'm defending anyone in that house. Not one person in the BB19 house behaved well today and the majority of them lost their heads and got carried away in a very ugly mob scene. But like, if you're reading one of those places claiming that Jess and Cody were "attacked" or are innocents or have never done the things that the HGs said they've done like threaten violence... well those people are lying. Tellah posted:I mean, the recap that Fast Luck just described started with Josh pots-and-pans-ing Jess and Cody (although somewhat good-naturedly - they were all laughing!) before Paul invites Jessica out to the kitchen to get interrogated by literally everyone else in the house. That simply wasn't the start of this. That's the problem. There's hours of stuff that happened before that where Jessica was berating people and making accusations. Paul didn't just suddenly tell people to attack Jessica. And Josh didn'y just start banging pots and pans. That was the middle of the story. And I definitely don't think they "deserved" it because I don't think anyone deserves that. But did they create the situation and anger that led it to happening? Yeah, I think they did. With a pretty solid amount of help from Paul who is a piece of poo poo. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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STAC Goat posted:That simply wasn't the start of this. That's the problem. There's hours of stuff that happened before that where Jessica was berating people and making accusations. Paul didn't just suddenly tell people to attack Jessica. And Josh didn'y just start banging pots and pans. That was the middle of the story. Fair enough; I haven't gone back far enough to see the real spark that set off the day's events. Appreciate the analysis! I would add that, although I'm not a superfan, the seasons I have avidly watched generally treat people on the block with a bit of respect (pre-jury, even). It just seems especially garish to prolong or provoke arguments with people on the block post-veto like this. I realize Jess' very public proclamation of her temptation is probably the reason things have gotten so out of control, but it's hard not to identify with people who are getting continuously kicked while they're down (even if brought there by their own hubris).
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Paul, Cody, and Jess are all poo poo, and STAC has it right that the battle back and hex has basically paused the game for weeks in the middle of a toxic situation. Even with the hex and no battle back, Jess was slowly re-integrating with the house even if it was only on her terms. At least previous battle backs happened later in the season where the people have had to live with each other and not go crazy for a little bit. Cody has never been a part of the house. I want someone to root for, and this pause in the game has basically left me with just irritation towards those 3. I can't root for someone if they are all overshadowed by this. Maybe Christmas or Alex emerge as a player, maybe Kevin learns how to play. Who knows, maybe Matt realizes he is playing Big Brother.
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STAC Goat posted:I'd guess that's Jess' "career concern" since she name drops celebrities and acts like a big shot. She was talking yesterday about how sad she was that she missed Nicole Aniston's Memorial Day party. So as much as she talks about "black balling" the other HGs the reality is she has no power to do that and she's just posturing, but CBS could probably black ball her from quite a bit. Anyways, all I'm saying is Jessica doth protests too much... but I guess she does have a certain factor that certain Simi Valley studios look for.
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Tellah posted:Fair enough; I haven't gone back far enough to see the real spark that set off the day's events. Appreciate the analysis! I mean, its kind of a horrible tradition of BB for people on the block to get shunned, ostracized, or attacked to increase their targets. Its ugly and lovely and doesn't always happen. But it was pretty much the weekly thing last season for the first half of the game. Tiffany took a pretty similar (I'd argue more) amount of poo poo as Jody have and did way, way less to bring it on herself. She had a complete breakdown the week she went on the block that would give Josh pause. Although obviously the Jody situation is really, really unique. Not only because of the Hex and the Battle Back providing them so many chances in the game, but also because they managed to win 2 HOHs and get blindsided by the house in both of them, get out none of their targets, and then go up the next week. Its a crazy combination of pretty unlikely things combined with the behavior and attitude of Jody. Robnoxious posted:Since no one else has decided to key in to this tidbit of info, I will. Nicole Aniston is a porn contract girl. That was a really weird typo/brain fart. I meant to say Jennifer Aniston. You may have heard this before but I'm super bad and weird with names. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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STAC Goat posted:That was a really weird typo/brain fart. I meant to say Jennifer Aniston. It's all good, duder. 
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Here's, from my memory, a more detailed timeline of that whole mess today to explain why I think Jessica started it, Paul stoked the flames, and it all got out of control when wounds started getting opened. - The POV Ceremony happens and Jason says something about Cody that Jessica doesn't like. It wasn't clear what he said. - Jessica sees Raven, Jason, and Kevin talking about the POV necklace and for some reason thinks they're making fun of Jody. She pulls Raven in with Cody and goes at her for attacking Cody and being mean. Raven swears she didn't and tries to explain but Jessica won't listen. Cody gives Raven a hard time about wanting him out and being disloyal and doing whatever Paul wants. Raven tries to defend herself, tells some lies, tells some truths, says she loves them, blah blah blah. Jessica says she doesn't really care and does her "we've been attacked and betrayed so many times" thing. - Raven comes out upset and tells people what happened. Paul tells her to tell more people and really crank up the water works and get people against Jody. - Jason and Kevin go to Jody to say they weren't making fun of them. Jody go at Jason and say how loyal they've been to him and how angry they were that he attacked Cody. Jessica says it would be like if she had attacked Jason's wife. Jason says he just wanted to make it clear he was with the house and Cody gives him a hard time about getting with the numbers and how they could have run the house together. Alex repeatedly tries to get Jason out of it so he doesn't give up information. Cody gives her a hard time saying how loyal they were to them and how they betrayed him. Alex eventually gets Jason out. - Paul tries to rally everyone to go at Jody and make Cody flip out. There's mixed opinions to this. Josh and Alex are on board. Christmas is a little in and a little out. Matt and Raven are against it. Kevin and Jason say they are but aren't actually really into it. - Paul confronts Jody and they have a really heated back and forth. Paul talks about what a bad and scary presence Cody is in the house and says he made Raven cry. Jess lies and says Cody wasn't even in the room when they talked and said nothing to her. Jess tells Paul that he's manipulating everyone but people have been leaking information to her and talking behind his back. - Paul goes around telling people that Jess said that and sort of fishing to see if anyone says anything. - Josh confronts Jody about all their problems. As Josh rambles Cody starts insulting him and calls him "disgusting" and a "sexual predator" but Jess stops him and forces him to stay quiet. Cody leaves instead. Josh keeps rambling about how much he loves Jess but hates Cody and Jess kind of laughs at him and talks down to him but they manage to end it semi civilly where Josh was doing his pots and pans again and she threw something at him and they were both laughing at it. - When Cody was outside he was ignoring everyone and Paul was trying to bait him into a confrontation by saying stuff. Then he got Alex to go confront him about the deal Jess made to let Cody get evicted in return for targeting Alex. Alex asked Cody and asked why he had just said they had always been loyal to her. Cody lied and said he didn't know what she was talking about and Alex said then Jessica is lying to him or people are lying to her. Cody says people are just trying to stir up poo poo. Christmas and others confirm the deal. Cody says he has no idea and goes back to Jess. - Cody tells Jess about the Alex thing and Jess laughs uncomfortably about it and says she's trapped in the house. Paul calls her and Cody out to answer Alex's questions. Alex and Jess scream at each other a bunch. Jess argues over whether Cody does or doesn't know about the Alex thing which leads Alex to call Cody a liar because he said he didn't know and Paul call Jess a liar because she said she wasn't going to tell Cody. Jess deflects questions about the deal to talk and says she was targeting Alex because she betrayed her and nominated. Alex says she protected her and was getting everyone to vote out Dom. They argue over whether she was a target or not. Paul interjects other things Jess and Cody did. Alex brings up the stuff that was stolen from her and asks who Jess said stole it. Jess refuses to say and Raven explodes and asks why Jess threw her under the bus to Alex. Raven UNLOADS on Jess and Jess screams back so Cody grabs her and drags her out to the hammock. - Paul corrals everyone outside to keep it going. Alex and Raven keep yelling questions and attacks at them that they ignore and mumble under their breaths. Josh joins in about the stuff they've said about him including the "sexual predator" stuff. Christmas speaks up about the stuff they did to her. All sorts of poo poo is getting aired like Jody calling everyone "Paul's dogs." Paul accuses Jess of being the real sexual predator. It goes on and on as the anger builds and Jess and Cody sit in the hammock making comments to each other about how they are dogs or how disgusting they are or how they should get jobs if they want money so badly or how Jess will blackball them from LA. - Eventually as it drags on WAY too long Cody and Jess start to get really beat down alone and discuss quitting. The DR starts calling people in and they start calming down. Paul and Josh both say that they were told not to try and incite someone to quit or violence. There's a lot of residual anger and outbursts but it gradually dies down. - After awhile someone screamed over the wall something like "America loves Jess, Paul is a bully". They all get locked down. Everyone in the house starts to sober up about what happened and debate back and forth if they were bullying them or how it all looked or if they could be hated for trying to break up America's Sweethearts. There was a clear coming down as everyone went through different degrees of rationalization, guilt, or processing over the mess that had just happened. They also processed a lot of what had happened and come out against Jody. Elena learned a lot of stuff they did against her she didn't know. Mark kept trying to defend them and criticize everyone for attacking them when "they never attacked anyone" and pissed everyone off. They all agreed to stop harassing them and that they had "made their point". Jess got in a really depressed state before talking to a shrink in the DR. 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STAC Goat posted:That was a really weird typo/brain fart. I meant to say Jennifer Aniston. I wish she was the porn contract girl 
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Maybe I just like Paul but I don't see that what he and the rest of the house are doing to Jess and Cody as wrong, and same when Josh made Mark's life miserable. They started it and then when it got flipped around on them they couldn't take it and made victim noises about it not being fair. They are used to their tactics working outside the house. This is really evident because Cody is mad that not everyone sucks his dick on command simply for being a Marine.
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Aug 1, 2017 16:07
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Wow did Jess really compare talking poo poo about Cody to talking poo poo about Jason's wife? A woman who has never been involved in Big Brother? Not to mention comparing a real life marriage with child and a showmance that met like what a month or so ago and has never been tested outside of the house. Jody are amazingly delusional. I don't like the mob mentality group bullying but I also don't get why people still love Jessica. I get people had hope she'd play hard after Cody left but that was gone after her insanely bad nominations. Her and Cody are shockingly bad at the game. Cody at least has some self awareness and can be unintentionally hilarious but he's bad too. And I hate Paul so I get that people like that they're against him but come on. They're delusional and bad at the game and aren't sweethearts at all. Personally I also think it's pathetic that they were threatening to self-evict just because they got bullied for exactly one night. I know they've seen the show before so they must know it gets dirty sometimes but there's always a way to turn it around if you put the effort in. I'm mainly just rooting for Jason or Kevin now. Maybe I'll like Alex again if she starts plotting against Paul (although that seems unlikely at the moment).
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Aug 1, 2017 16:14
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Paul has a grating personality but he also knows how to play the game well, as evidenced by the fact that Matt literally asks "what does Paul want us to do" every once in a while, so going after him directly really wasn't a good idea this early on.
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Aug 1, 2017 16:39
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Faustian Bargain posted:I don't see that what he and the rest of the house are doing to Jess and Cody as wrong, and same when Josh made Mark's life miserable.  Max posted:Paul has a grating personality but he also knows how to play the game well, as evidenced by the fact that Matt literally asks "what does Paul want us to do" every once in a while, so going after him directly really wasn't a good idea this early on. Jess intentionally left Paul off the block to 'make amends' with 'the other side' last week though. Unless you mean going after Paul in Week 1 with Cody's HoH, Jody has played post-battle back really conservatively re: Paul, which nearly everyone agrees was to their own significant detriment. RIP "Ramsey".
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Aug 1, 2017 16:56
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Yeah I meant week 1.
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Aug 1, 2017 16:56
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The rest of the post explains why I feel this way. They started it and aren't used to people not backing down from their poo poo.
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Honestly, even if Jess had gone after Paul last week I don't think she could have gotten him out. I'm not sure they could get him out next week either. It would be easier since Mark and maybe Elena might vote with you (I don't think so) but I'm pretty sure the big plan to put him next to Raven just gets Raven sent home. But I don't think Jessica knows that now or then. She just stayed away from Paul because she (a) has a messed up read on the house dynamics and wanted to play the middle and (b) wanted to take the shot at Josh more. Faustian Bargain posted:The rest of the post explains why I feel this way. They started it and aren't used to people not backing down from their poo poo. They started it but I do think the house got carried away yesterday and it got very ugly. Of course that's not that different from how Jody and the Cool Kids treated Josh early on. But two wrongs don't make a right. And Paul is the most obvious common thread in both of those things.
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