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Jeb! Repetition posted:So can't Data just threaten to break all the poo poo in here? ...huh, that would have been a good idea.
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Thinking about how sad and a little weird it would be to mourn an android friend. I wonder if Data will get to see his own funeral Tom Sawyer style.
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"Is it part of your programming to seek out vulnerability in your enemies?" "Yes. Are you my enemy?" Good stuff.
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WampaLord posted:...huh, that would have been a good idea. Not really in Data's character though. I remember reading a review of this episode a while back where the reviewer commented how much the episode depends on Data's patience and politeness -- his counter example was to imagine what this episode would be like if the guy kidnapped Riker or Worf.
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Great drama of Geordi being a conspiracy theorist and everybody else probably thinking he's mad with grief. Great writing in this episode all around.
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"For an android with no feelings, he sure managed to evoke them"
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God the Hamlet quote from Picard
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skasion posted:Not really in Data's character though. I remember reading a review of this episode a while back where the reviewer commented how much the episode depends on Data's patience and politeness -- his counter example was to imagine what this episode would be like if the guy kidnapped Riker or Worf. Yeah I'm enjoying how much dignity he has.
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Did the collector just fake cry for a second
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Geordi having a revelatory nightmare is good.
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Hahaha Data is brilliant
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Apologies, Mr. Worf
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Loving this fight scene with Data's super-strength.
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The Most Toys is one of those episodes, like Deja Q, where when I read the blurb on Netflix to figure out whether I want to skip it, I assume it's one of the generic fairly-good-but-not-great episodes that sorta blend together. Then I'm always pleasantly surprised.
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That ending is creepy as gently caress when you consider Data tried killing him and also had no reason to visit him other than to gloat
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This episode more than most supports the theory that Data has feelings he just doesn't recognize them as such.
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The Bloop posted:This episode more than most supports the theory that Data has feelings he just doesn't recognize them as such. I'm 90% sure that was the original concept for the character and they changed their minds for whatever reason a season or two in.
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Not to mention Data loving lied about firing the disruptor
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I wonder why they chose a Jewish actor to play the greedy, deceptive trader who wears a yarmulke Because the original actor was found trying to suffocate himself in his car a few days after they started filming, so they grabbed whoever was walking past outside the soundstage.
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The Bloop posted:This episode more than most supports the theory that Data has feelings he just doesn't recognize them as such. Yeah. I'd read it as text too if it weren't for the fact that everyone else on the show talks like he doesn't but then acts like he does. That makes it reads to me more as sloppy writing.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Apologies, Mr. Worf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxopd_qSVKo
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Jeb! Repetition posted:to play the greedy, deceptive trader who wears a yarmulke It predates Watto from Star Wars by 9 years Star Trek's always thinking two steps ahead
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I wonder why they chose a Jewish actor to play the greedy, deceptive trader who wears a yarmulke This is the creepy behind-the-scenes story to that episode. The actor originally cast in the role was David Rappaport, the little person best known for being in "Time Bandits" and starring in the 80s TV show "The Wizard", if you remember that. He had a whole makeup job and everything, and completed at least one day of shooting on the episode.  He attempted suicide mid-way through the shoot and had to be replaced in a hurry with Saul Rubinek. There wasn't time to redo the makeup and obviously Rappaport's costume wouldn't fit so they had to fudge together what you saw. Rappaport survived that suicide attempt but shot himself two months later.
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Most Toys is so good - huge episode for Data. Like, probably 2nd most important before Measure of A Man.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
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MikeJF posted:Another example of the screen being 3D. I remember hearing an Orville joke where they ask the person on the other screen to step into the center of the frame cause there's a lot of dead space there. Please don't gently caress this up Macfarlane, I'm actually letting some hype creep in
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I have never understood why Data lies at the end about trying to shoot Kivas Fajo.
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shadok posted:I have never understood why Data lies at the end about trying to shoot Kivas Fajo. Because he was turning into a real boy.
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That was the most interesting Data's ever been at the end despite it being creepy. I hope they do something else with his developing emotions or some emotion-like thing in him that he can't understand or control.
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I actually watched the ending a few more times to think about it. Brent Spiner did an amazing job. Don't know how anybody can think Data wasn't going to fire.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I actually watched the ending a few more times to think about it. Brent Spiner did an amazing job. Don't know how anybody can think Data wasn't going to fire. Since you just watched it, I have to ask you to refresh my fuzzy memory: does Data actually lie? I recall him saying something like "it must have discharged during transport" that is a technical truth he probably took ten billion cycles to calculate as good enough to stop the questions.
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