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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

klugman posted:

yeah, camcorder is "filming", or similar -- not taping

:wrong:

Magnetic tape is used to tape things.

Cellulose acetate film is used to film things.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I like Sony gear because their remotes are more-or-less compatible. My 40" LCD, PS3, and the loving VCR all understand each others' remotes to a helpful extent.

e: PS4 too.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

I like Sony gear because their remotes are more-or-less compatible. My 40" LCD, PS3, and the loving VCR all understand each others' remotes to a helpful extent.

e: PS4 too.

When I was sales all the oldies would love the new Panasonic TVs because the remote was pretty similar to their last Pana. It was the easiest upsell of all from dodgy cheap brands.

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

I was a huge litestep nerd.

That and WindowBlinds, Talisman and a few others for me. That Pentium 75 really was chugging along at a slow pace after all the mods.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Jerry Cotton posted:

I like Sony gear because their remotes are more-or-less compatible. My 40" LCD, PS3, and the loving VCR all understand each others' remotes to a helpful extent.

e: PS4 too.

Pretty sure you have some HDMI-CEC happening there, since neither the PS3 or PS4 has IR receivers. HDMI-CEC is universal, and will work across brands. It's incredibly nice just to have to hit the PS button on my Playstation controller, and it turns on my TV, audio system and game console at once.

You are onto something however, since the remotes for my Sony TV and home theater receiver have worked perfectly fine controlling 20 year old Sony CD players.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
On the subject of replacement Windows shells, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_HW75OHuaw

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
There's a reason Sony device codes were usually either the default code on universal remotes, or always 0000/1111/1000. They had a corner on the market, the simplest IR code patterns, and the most internal consistency of any device manufacturer for years.

Even if your BNIB universal programmable remote didn't power on your JVC or whatever, it usually had a button or two that controlled SOMETHING. If you had a Sony TV or receiver, you usually didn't have to reprogram it at all. Sony stayed consistent across decades of IR controlled devices. Volume Up was almost always Volume Up on any device they had.

Hitachi or RCA would have like 20 codes for their TVs or VCRs in the booklet, because they were internally inconsistent, and would sub contract devices and rebrand them. Sony would have one or two codes.

You can actually track Sony's decline in quality in the consumer electronics market pretty reliably by looking at the "code inflation" in programmable remote booklets of the day. The more codes Sony (or any manufacturer, really) had, the lower the average quality of their products.

I can't be the only one to notice.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

You can actually track Sony's decline in quality in the consumer electronics market pretty reliably by looking at the "code inflation" in programmable remote booklets of the day. The more codes Sony (or any manufacturer, really) had, the lower the average quality of their products.

I can't be the only one to notice.

I bet you are.



(actually, it's a very interesting observation, thanks)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Metal Geir Skogul posted:

There's a reason Sony device codes were usually either the default code on universal remotes, or always 0000/1111/1000. They had a corner on the market, the simplest IR code patterns, and the most internal consistency of any device manufacturer for years.

Even if your BNIB universal programmable remote didn't power on your JVC or whatever, it usually had a button or two that controlled SOMETHING. If you had a Sony TV or receiver, you usually didn't have to reprogram it at all. Sony stayed consistent across decades of IR controlled devices. Volume Up was almost always Volume Up on any device they had.

Hitachi or RCA would have like 20 codes for their TVs or VCRs in the booklet, because they were internally inconsistent, and would sub contract devices and rebrand them. Sony would have one or two codes.

You can actually track Sony's decline in quality in the consumer electronics market pretty reliably by looking at the "code inflation" in programmable remote booklets of the day. The more codes Sony (or any manufacturer, really) had, the lower the average quality of their products.

I can't be the only one to notice.

Also on that note of universal remotes - I've been told that 'One4all' branded ones are made by the company that allocates all the iR codes. Never found a device I can't get working with those remotes.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Casimir Radon posted:

A while back somebody dug up some racist comics he drew 10 years ago that he was dumb enough to put his real name on. Then a couple weeks ago someone found a comic likely drawn by Mike that showed Mrs Potato Head being gangraped in an alley. He was smart enough not to put his name on that one.

Just googled this, holy smokes

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Regular Nintendo posted:

Just googled this, holy smokes

Me, too. :smith:

Everybody who has ever entertained me has some dark past. :negative:

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Flipperwaldt posted:

You can install a vst wrapper in foobar and just play your mp3s through this:



These guys keep trying to get me to work for them

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

Regular Nintendo posted:

These guys keep trying to get me to work for them

for real money or shares?

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Regular Nintendo posted:

These guys keep trying to get me to work for them
If you’re a 1991 Solaris UI developer you are good to go buddy.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Randaconda posted:

Me, too. :smith:

Everybody who has ever entertained me has some dark past. :negative:

Lowtax makes money off of an article mocking women mourning miscarriages and stillbirths, because their web design is not up to par.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Skoll posted:

Speaking of VHS, let's have a look at a 17 year old thread on Ars Technica where they ponder if DVD will ever replace VHS:

https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=1073494

And then they/their kids all got ps2s

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


this part is eerily prescient, though:

quote:

As DVD catches on, it's inevitable that it'll one day dominate. But what about the next format that replaces it? I would hate to just have a DVD collection started and then have to go to SUPERDVD or whatever. Maybe if the new format will read DVDs too, that'd be great.

I know a couple people who have blu-ray players, but they still have most of their movies in DVD because why re-buy their collection a second goddamn time? People my age, 27-30 or so, it's 50/50 whether we even have a disc player or just stream everything, and a lot of older people still just keep their VHS collections because gently caress it why not. I'm guessing the younger generation almost universally streams poo poo.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Grand Prize Winner posted:

this part is eerily prescient, though:


I know a couple people who have blu-ray players, but they still have most of their movies in DVD because why re-buy their collection a second goddamn time? People my age, 27-30 or so, it's 50/50 whether we even have a disc player or just stream everything, and a lot of older people still just keep their VHS collections because gently caress it why not. I'm guessing the younger generation almost universally streams poo poo.

I still have my VHS, DVDs, and some blurays. I've rebought some stuff from VHS to DVD but not again from DVD to blu-ray.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Carrion Luggage posted:

for real money or shares?

SLOSifl posted:

If you’re a 1991 Solaris UI developer you are good to go buddy.

For real money I assume, I guess in mobile world they make pretty baller mixing software for iOS devices

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Skoll posted:

I still have my VHS, DVDs, and some blurays. I've rebought some stuff from VHS to DVD but not again from DVD to blu-ray.

Friend of mine went all-in on HD-DVD. His entire collection. Probably dropped a few grand.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

Friend of mine went all-in on HD-DVD. His entire collection. Probably dropped a few grand.

Ouch. That poor man.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I remember being in target in college and crunching the numbers on when you would break even buying the discontinued hd dvd drive for the xbox 360 for $30 and then getting hddvd titles for like 2.99 a pop vs just buying dvds

I dont miss being that broke

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Grand Prize Winner posted:

this part is eerily prescient, though:


I know a couple people who have blu-ray players, but they still have most of their movies in DVD because why re-buy their collection a second goddamn time? People my age, 27-30 or so, it's 50/50 whether we even have a disc player or just stream everything, and a lot of older people still just keep their VHS collections because gently caress it why not. I'm guessing the younger generation almost universally streams poo poo.

Yeah, for me, I have a lot of DVDs, I've only re-bought a couple so far on Blu-Ray, typically as ~$10 impulse buys.

For me I think the reason I bought so many DVDs back in the 00's was that you mostly still went to a physical store. Back then my typical Friday nights consisted of driving around to the local music stores and looking through the CDs with my friends. Those stores had also started stocking DVDs, so I would usually walk out with one if they didn't have any CDs I wanted more.

Then it sorta skyrocketed for me around 2005, when I would go get all my grocery shopping done at Walmart, I'd usually pick something up most weekends since I didn't have cable. That whole habit ended for me with a layoff in 2009.

With upgrading to an HDTV and Blu-Ray player that has died out for me, I'll still usually drop by the "video" section of my local Meijer when I go grocery shopping, but it's always a mix of DVDs and Blus, and usually the ones I would want aren't in stock, or DVD only.

It's just different times today, video and music stores are nearly dead and gone, so impulse buying is basically your local all in one grocery store or Best Buy ( :lol: ). I definitely miss Friday nights at Tower Records, followed by renting a couple bad horror movies at Blockbuster.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Regular Nintendo posted:

I remember being in target in college and crunching the numbers on when you would break even buying the discontinued hd dvd drive for the xbox 360 for $30 and then getting hddvd titles for like 2.99 a pop vs just buying dvds

I dont miss being that broke



I did that! I bought the drive for like $20 and found some eBay sellers selling 10 movies for $6 on HD-DVDs so I bought a few packs and had some really good movies on the format. Eventually I donated them all to a thrift store when I moved because I never watched them and now I'm exclusively digital with either streaming or :filez:

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Crowned posted:

Yeah, for me, I have a lot of DVDs, I've only re-bought a couple so far on Blu-Ray, typically as ~$10 impulse buys.

For me I think the reason I bought so many DVDs back in the 00's was that you mostly still went to a physical store. Back then my typical Friday nights consisted of driving around to the local music stores and looking through the CDs with my friends. Those stores had also started stocking DVDs, so I would usually walk out with one if they didn't have any CDs I wanted more.

Then it sorta skyrocketed for me around 2005, when I would go get all my grocery shopping done at Walmart, I'd usually pick something up most weekends since I didn't have cable. That whole habit ended for me with a layoff in 2009.

With upgrading to an HDTV and Blu-Ray player that has died out for me, I'll still usually drop by the "video" section of my local Meijer when I go grocery shopping, but it's always a mix of DVDs and Blus, and usually the ones I would want aren't in stock, or DVD only.

It's just different times today, video and music stores are nearly dead and gone, so impulse buying is basically your local all in one grocery store or Best Buy ( :lol: ). I definitely miss Friday nights at Tower Records, followed by renting a couple bad horror movies at Blockbuster.

I have a lot of nostalgia for video rental stores. Not Blockbuster, because we didn't have one, but we had 3 mom and pop joints. Loved wandering the horror movie aisles and trying to pick out which one based on the box art, then going to rent a NES/SNES game.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, I don't know what it was about video stores that makes me miss them so much. Like you said, probably wandering the isles looking at the box art, wondering what would be the most entertaining film.

I used to love renting games likes WWF Wrestlemania 2000 or No Mercy on N64 and seeing the custom wrestlers other people would make.

Skoll has a new favorite as of 14:52 on Aug 7, 2017

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Randaconda posted:

I have a lot of nostalgia for video rental stores. Not Blockbuster, because we didn't have one, but we had 3 mom and pop joints. Loved wandering the horror movie aisles and trying to pick out which one based on the box art, then going to rent a NES/SNES game.

The mom and pop ones were the best, but I lived in the suburbs so I was stuck with Blockbuster on one side of the road and Hollywood on the other unless I went to visit my friend downtown.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
No Mercy is still my favorite wrasslin' game.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Skoll posted:

Yeah, I don't know what it was about video stores that makes me miss them so much. Like you said, probably wandering the isles looking at the box art, wondering what would be the most entertaining film.

I think this is it. I was doing it pretty much every Friday from 17 - 22 which pretty much coincided with the rise of DVD and the decline of video stores. I mean it was what me and my nerd friends did when we weren't old enough to drink yet. It was definitely a sad day for me when our mom and pop music store closed it's doors. It does make me wonder what the nerd kids do now that specialized stores are rare anymore and malls are dying off.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
I think with video stores there was something about actively deciding you wanted to watch a movie and having to go somewhere to get it that made it somehow more special. Like, it's great that I can just sit on my sofa and decide I'm going to rent a movie direct through about five different services I can access on my TV, but having to actually drive to the store made it more of an occasion. I both miss it and don't at the same time.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Iron Crowned posted:

t does make me wonder what the nerd kids do now that specialized stores are rare anymore and malls are dying off.



they post on 4chan and join fringe political movements, obsessive fan groups, or weird fetish communities

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
One of the video stores that used to be hete had a pool table and a few arcade games. We'd go over there while the card and games shop was closed for lunch or not open yet because it was two doors down. It was just something to do because there is gently caress all else to do in central Wyoming. Now anyone old enough to drink either has no interest in it or they are all at home by ten at night on a Saturday.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Star Man posted:

One of the video stores that used to be hete had a pool table and a few arcade games. We'd go over there while the card and games shop was closed for lunch or not open yet because it was two doors down. It was just something to do because there is gently caress all else to do in central Wyoming. Now anyone old enough to drink either has no interest in it or they are all at home by ten at night on a Saturday.

I remember going to the video store and renting a Sega Genesis just to play games that weren't on SNES. Fun times, that.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Data Graham posted:

Friend of mine went all-in on HD-DVD. His entire collection. Probably dropped a few grand.
I went in on a $200 HDDVD player when I was in college because when the gently caress does Sony ever win a format war.

Thing was slow to start up, but the pop-up menu was way better than what BluRays at the time had (still basically DVD style menus).
Got that howevermany discs for free as a promo and bought a hybrid disc of The Fountain. Then WB killed the format with its Blu exclusivity announcement, so I sold the player on Ebay before it was truly dead and gone.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
One of the mom and pop stores here had the old Aliens arcade game, and you'd be browsing videos and here "ALIENS!" in it's robot voice out of nowhere. One of the others had Street Fighter 2 Turbo and MK2 machines for a while.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Iron Crowned posted:

I think this is it. I was doing it pretty much every Friday from 17 - 22 which pretty much coincided with the rise of DVD and the decline of video stores. I mean it was what me and my nerd friends did when we weren't old enough to drink yet. It was definitely a sad day for me when our mom and pop music store closed it's doors. It does make me wonder what the nerd kids do now that specialized stores are rare anymore and malls are dying off.

They do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I'm going to have my moment as an old man at thirty, but the thing I like the most about having to go to another location to do my shopping ia that it gets me out of the loving house, even just for a little bit.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Star Man posted:

I'm going to have my moment as an old man at thirty, but the thing I like the most about having to go to another location to do my shopping ia that it gets me out of the loving house, even just for a little bit.

I know what you mean. I never ever saw kids playing outside anymore at my old neighborhood.. Or even my sisters when I would go visit her and my nieces.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Star Man posted:

I'm going to have my moment as an old man at thirty, but the thing I like the most about having to go to another location to do my shopping ia that it gets me out of the loving house, even just for a little bit.

Same here. Luckily I have a Microcenter for all of my old school electronics/computer store experience, but it loving sucks how homogenized retail is these days, yeah, I can and do get out of the house, but everything is the same, and if I want or need something specialized I'm usually forced to buy it online.

Skoll posted:

I know what you mean. I never ever saw kids playing outside anymore at my old neighborhood.. Or even my sisters when I would go visit her and my nieces.

This could honestly be due to there not actually being kids in the neighborhood. In the 60's and 70's you had a lot of white flight out to the suburbs, and new families could afford to buy houses then. By the 80's and 90's you had those neighborhoods full of older people who's kids had grown up and moved out. I grew up in one of those neighborhoods, where there were like 3 other kids around my age down the road. I think that's probably getting "worse" now that buying houses is prohibitively expensive, and people are having fewer kids.

EDIT:
Because I didn't really have any neighborhood kids I liked to play with, 75% of my outside playtime was in the backyard.

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Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Iron Crowned posted:

This could honestly be due to there not actually being kids in the neighborhood. In the 60's and 70's you had a lot of white flight out to the suburbs, and new families could afford to buy houses then. By the 80's and 90's you had those neighborhoods full of older people who's kids had grown up and moved out. I grew up in one of those neighborhoods, where there were like 3 other kids around my age down the road. I think that's probably getting "worse" now that buying houses is prohibitively expensive, and people are having fewer kids.

EDIT:
Because I didn't really have any neighborhood kids I liked to play with, 75% of my outside playtime was in the backyard.

My old neighborhood is legit sandwiched between a middle school and a high school, with an elementary school not far either. There definitely SHOULD have been kids around, there just weren't.

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