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It's hard to know if there was a really legitimate chance of him quitting or if it was just empty threats by both parties. Based on things I've read about other shows over the years, it sounds like that's actually pretty common. It happens like every other year with The Simpsons, for example.
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I'm not even sure that he was in contract renegotiations at that point. When he signed on to TNG in the first place, he signed a six-year contract, not least because his agent told him the series wouldn't last a year and he'd get a nice payout.
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I like when Beltran kept threatening to quit if he didn't get ridiculous X or Y demand out of Voyager in the hopes of being fired but they kept giving him everything he asked for.
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Brawnfire posted:They should at least stick a "platonic shape" in there that the computer can stick close to, so you aren't getting a Klingon Painsticking Throne when you ask for a chair to sit in.  You got stuck
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The Bloop posted:ARTICLE Pretty loving speciest to refer to sentient people as "creatures". Starfleet really is a homo sapiens-only club.
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Sir Lemming posted:It's hard to know if there was a really legitimate chance of him quitting or if it was just empty threats by both parties. Based on things I've read about other shows over the years, it sounds like that's actually pretty common. It happens like every other year with The Simpsons, for example. Stewart was a notorious straight-shirt, "no bullshit" type during the early years and didn't enjoy guys like Spiner and Frakes joking around all the time. Also, the only member of The Simpsons' voice cast who openly hates the show is Harry Shearer. The rest of the cast happily keeps taking pay cuts every few years because they're just building their great-grandchildrens' college funds.
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Timby posted:Stewart was a notorious straight-shirt, "no bullshit" type during the early years and didn't enjoy guys like Spiner and Frakes joking around all the time. Nowadays I imagine he would be the one pulling practical jokes on set.
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Awesome! Just been watching the end of Gotham and Ras' al Ghulis played by Alexander Siddig, and he didn't even result to his growly evil voice used in DS9 s1
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Trickjaw posted:Awesome! Just been watching the end of Gotham and Ras' al Ghulis played by Alexander Siddig, and he didn't even result to his growly evil voice used in DS9 s1 RA-O VAN TI KA
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Trickjaw posted:Awesome! Just been watching the end of Gotham and Ras' al Ghulis played by Alexander Siddig, and he didn't even result to his growly evil voice used in DS9 s1 I've been saying Siddig needs to play Ra's for YEARS.
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shadok posted:I'm not even sure that he was in contract renegotiations at that point. When he signed on to TNG in the first place, he signed a six-year contract, not least because his agent told him the series wouldn't last a year and he'd get a nice payout. It's not like you go to jail if you break contract. The biggest consequence of doing so would probably be that Paramount (and perhaps/likely other Hollywood studios) would refuse to work with you again afterward, but Stewart wasn't from Hollywood; he could always just go back to the UK and do theatre again, and still be able to hit up the convention circuit if he wanted some extra spending money.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It's not like you go to jail if you break contract. Sure, obviously you can try to renegotiate any contract at any time, and being willing to walk away is pretty good leverage. Denise Crosby and Wil Wheaton did have their agents negotiate to leave the show. I'm just saying that for all the talk about the link between Stewart's contract and Picard being written into a deathly cliffhanger, all I've ever seen is stuff like Frakes saying "we all wondered if the studio was trying to threaten Patrick with renegotiations". Meanwhile on the writing side, all the writers say that Piller had been talking up the possibility of ending on a cliffhanger all season. Has anyone ever seen an interview with Berman or Stewart or someone where they flat out said "we were renegotiating the contract and thought there was a chance Picard wouldn't be back in season 4"? Edit: in other things I never knew about Star Trek, today I learned that Andy Robinson is 75, which means he was in his 50s when he made DS9. I always assumed he was in his early 30s! It actually changes my take on Garak a little bit. shadok fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Piller said (in Fade In, I think) that he had been explicitly ordered to be prepared to write Picard out of the show.
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Brawnfire posted:They should at least stick a "platonic shape" in there that the computer can stick close to, so you aren't getting a Klingon Painsticking Throne when you ask for a chair to sit in. During the last time loop, you sent yourself a hypnotic suggestion back in time. So in the next few hours, when it looks like you're about to die, remember: the key to getting through it is "stick".
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Piller said (in Fade In, I think) that he had been explicitly ordered to be prepared to write Picard out of the show.  Huh, there it is. I stand corrected. (Hope that's not a spoiler, Jeb). This kind of contradicts Ron Moore talking about Piller, who said, "Piller said as the season went on that he thought there should be a cliffhanger, which Star Trek had never done." shadok fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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...I wonder if them having like, twelves different scenes of people hanging off cliffs and buildings and stuff in the JJTrek movies was an intentional joke or if that's just become a too-easy shorthand for danger.
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It's nice and creepy when Locutus calls Riker "Number One"
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Arglebargle III posted:I think Riker should have left for his own ship at season 4. Can you imagine if they had had the guts to basically split the show in two and show the adventures of two concurrent crews at the same time? Sometimes interacting, sometimes not? Would be easy now, but unheard of in 80s/90s tv. Brawnfire posted:They should at least stick a "platonic shape" in there that the computer can stick close to, so you aren't getting a Klingon Painsticking Throne when you ask for a chair to sit in. You may be trying to tell yourself something... 
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's nice and creepy when Locutus calls Riker "Number One" Is that in the beginning of part 2?
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Aw Riker and the woman are making up a little bit.
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Arglebargle III posted:Is that in the beginning of part 2? I think so, I had to guess where it started because it's just one continuous episode in the version I'm watching.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The Borg ship is undamaged The ultimate wet fart of a cliffhanger resolution. Be glad you only had to wait a day and not a summer.
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Astroman posted:Can you imagine if they had had the guts to basically split the show in two and show the adventures of two concurrent crews at the same time? Sometimes interacting, sometimes not? Would be easy now, but unheard of in 80s/90s tv. Spinoffs had already been a thing for a long time. According to the infallible Wikipedia, Happy Days (to pick an example) had no less than seven spinoff shows, and they would occasionally do crossover episodes or have characters who showed up on multiple shows.
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Nice dreadful music. It's gonna make me miss that composer even more.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:"Nanites," she asks, as if anybody wouldn't know what those are by now. The first episode of season 3 was about nanites. Nanites almost destroyed the Enterprise. She was in the room when they talked about the nanites. Troi is just the worst.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:They're separating the saucer, but why only now? New fiscal year.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Oh poo poo the admiral's losing Data's tiny shake of his head when the comms get cut off is still loving great.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:They rescued what once was Picard, but they're all likely to be wiped out in this battle and he's been fully assimilated, so... where are you in this?
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Arglebargle III posted:where are you in this? They just entered Sector 001
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