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Quidam Viator posted:I guess it's allllllll ok, just as long as you take all the rest of us down with you, just as long as the people you hate die too. "Take the rest of us down with [them]"? You're an accelerationist who voted for Trump, you took yourself down my man.
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I'm....still not convinced Vital Signs actually gets the Byrd rule and, separately, the filibuster. That's impressive, given that it is easily possible to see that it takes 60 loving votes to bring something new through the senate and the party that literally burned effigies of Obama were by their own admission (and proudly so) in lockstep against him since 2010 . All of this is veritable in the public record. I do agree Obama could have thumped the bully pulpit against the GOP fucks doing lovely things for obviously lovely reaaons, but I do realize now that, were Obama not such a 100% class act gentleman and largely above the partisan game, the momentum to blindly repeal the ACA would have probably been enough totip the 50+1 vote Byrd threshold start and people would start dying needlessly next year. e - please, please tell me I get to explain why two digit numbers starting with 4 or 5 are less than 60 Potato Salad has issued a correction as of 12:42 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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VitalSigns posted:No, what keeps the Republicans from passing their worst ideas is they don't have 51 votes for them. Killing medicaid failed 43-57 with 9 Republicans against lol. Again, one reason they couldn't tailor a bill that would pass with 50 votes is the constraints of the budget reconciliation rules. We were saved in the end by John McCain of all people. Also, there are plenty of bad republican ideas. In 2005, George W Bush was pushing hard for a plan to convert social security into a privatized investment account. They had 55 republican Senate seats. Democrats filibustered the gently caress out of that until they gave up. This poo poo was 3 years before the financial meltdown and would've hosed ppl really badly.
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Potato Salad posted:I'm....still not convinced Vital Signs actually gets the Byrd rule and, separately, the filibuster. That's impressive, given that it is easily possible to see that it takes 60 loving votes to bring something new through the senate and the party that literally burned effigies of Obama were by their own admission (and proudly so) in lockstep against him since 2010 . All of this is veritable in the public record. I'm this fuckin idiot hiding behind budget reconciliation when a social program could be made deficit neutral by hiking taxes on wall street and the rich
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:Again, one reason they couldn't tailor a bill that would pass with 50 votes is the constraints of the budget reconciliation rules. We were saved in the end by John McCain of all people. lol bush was copying clinton there
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:i don't even know what you're on about here, i clearly said i was talking about democrats, and frankly i even left myself room to exclude some of the shittier ones Do you have aspergers?
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Volcott posted:You're welcome to try to become the first black president of these united states if you think you can do better. a friend of a friend used this argument once after we got out of romero's land of the dead and were laughing about how ridiculously bad it was
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Dreddout posted:This poo poo is so stupid Man I love the ideological principles we're enjoying today
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Take it to another thread you grognards, this is for gawking at people who realized the full weight of what it means for Trump to make good on his promises to destroy ag exports via TPP rejection and murder them all by destroying their healthcare
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ok then, y'all seem pretty comfortable with incoherent rage and alternative facts so im just gunna move along. if you can send some more 3rd party socialists to congress that'd be great too. bernie had been a big asset to the senate caucus, and democrats are pretty open to working outside party and ideology to achieve practical results  Edit: none of this was directed at Epic High Five, who posted after i had read the thread Dixie Cretin Seaman has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Volcott posted:Obama tried his best. That's the problem. That was his best
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Yinlock posted:fine maybe i will!!! Following in the footsteps possibly set by Chester A. Arthur, are you?
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Epic High Five posted:Take it to another thread you grognards, this is for gawking at people who realized the full weight of what it means for Trump to make good on his promises to destroy ag exports via TPP rejection and murder them all by destroying their healthcare Exactly. Post poo poo like the ability to assault/abuse/neglect all the old folks you want in nursing homes cause they won't be able to sue you any more due to arbitration. The white middle class folks might've elected Trump! but the youngins will get the last laugh when they are forced to live in the hell holes they created.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:ok then, y'all seem pretty comfortable with incoherent rage and alternative facts so im just gunna move along. if you can send some more 3rd party socialists to congress that'd be great too. bernie had been a big asset to the senate caucus, and democrats are pretty open to working outside party and ideology to achieve practical results These alternative facts being "politics is inherently emotional" and "a death from democrat inaction is just as bad as a death from republican insanity"
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Business Gorillas posted:These alternative facts being "politics is inherently emotional" and "a death from democrat inaction is just as bad as a death from republican insanity" A good argument for another thread, by the sounds of it in D&D itself!
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Democrats trying to argue that people losing their livelihoods via globalization is actually good for them with excel spreadsheets is exactly why we have trump, but don't let that knock you off your high horse
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Business Gorillas posted:Democrats trying to argue that people losing their livelihoods via globalization is actually good for them with excel spreadsheets is exactly why we have trump, but don't let that knock you off your high horse weird how all those people now think the economy is actually fine and good due to their rational understanding of the world.
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zegermans posted:weird how all those people now think the economy is actually fine and good due to their rational understanding of the world. they're probably just hyped about their better health coverage through the ACA, aka Trumpcare, which repealed and replaced Obamacare on inauguration day and reversed the government takeover of Medicare also the president is the right color, gender, and party
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Business Gorillas posted:I'm this fuckin idiot hiding behind budget reconciliation when a social program could be made deficit neutral by hiking taxes on wall street and the rich It goes without saying that invoking Byrd on the technicality that you're doing reconciliation work when in fact you're introducing novel policy is in the playbook now. Tell me with a straight face you knew what the Byrd rule was in 2009.
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I mean, if you want to run around hollering and screaming that Obama and other Dems should have beaten the GOP to the Calvinball punch, sure. Fine. Go for it; I don't actually know who you are and thus cannot call bullshit on whether you had the foresight in 2010 to predict that the GOP would go to the present degree in discarding all decorum, all standing procedural precedent. I think everyone who watched GWB and how the party lined up to justify and normalize his poo poo could have predicted we'd see this going in this direction, but if you have been surprised even once since the golden escalator, you forfeit the ability to sit on a high horse here.
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Jose posted:Shut the gently caress up about democrats and post some trump voters loving themselves over Jose posted:Shut the gently caress up about democrats and post some trump voters loving themselves over Jose posted:Shut the gently caress up about democrats and post some trump voters loving themselves over Jose posted:Shut the gently caress up about democrats and post some trump voters loving themselves over
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Is there an US service men in SK that voted trump? I bet
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Burt Sexual posted:Is there an US service men in SK that voted trump? I bet Statistically speaking, they voted for Trump 3:1 and 2nd place for them was Johnson who would have almost the exact same agenda as Trump so really it was more like 4:1
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Burt Sexual posted:Is there an US service men in SK that voted trump? I bet My brother-in-law is in the air force about to be stationed in south korea and he is the most pro-trump person I know. He's looking forward to having fewer regulations on killing dudes I think.
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https://twitter.com/CHSkeleton/status/857833152953372672 he's more right than he knows
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Friend posted:My brother-in-law is in the air force about to be stationed in south korea and he is the most pro-trump person I know. He's looking forward to having fewer regulations on killing dudes I think. if he survives the first artillery barrage that is
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Epic High Five posted:A good argument for another thread, by the sounds of it in D&D itself! how many "democrats bad" threads do you think we need
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https://twitter.com/thoughtcurrents/status/895011682929577984 Registered Independent : Family, Freedom, Sarcasm, Humor, Capitalizing on opportunities without excuses, New Yorker living in St. Petersburg, FL
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:https://twitter.com/CHSkeleton/status/857833152953372672 Trump pissing off SK to this point also leaves a pretty big chance that US teams will be shut out of whatever esports they run over there, which will be another self-own to the alt right Edit: China supports NK because if Seoul is destroyed the Chinese League of Legends conference will dominate Asia Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Al! posted:if he survives the first artillery barrage that is one of my family friends (pseudo-cousin if you will) is a commissioned officer in the Army and super pro trump. He was stationed in Korea like all last year. One night he awoke to a very loud BANG sound, which he thought was an artillery strike. He lied in his cot for a minute hoping for a swift death, because the place was estimated to sustain over 90% casualties if a barrage from the North were to commence. Turns out it was just a blown electric generator. He can't wait to go back!
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:one of my family friends (pseudo-cousin if you will) is a commissioned officer in the Army and super pro trump. He was stationed in Korea like all last year. Tell him not to worry, now a level headed white Republican is in charge and he'll totally be safer right next to an idiot king agitating against him than he was under OBUMMER
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drat, you know poo poo is bad when the "black trump supporter" sockpuppet accounts are turning against him
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i dug thru it sure that i'd hit the weird ad spam at the account's open that those always have but that guy just has crazyass poo poo all the way to the bottom about how much he hates the clintons here's one i could go either way on https://twitter.com/BearWirePC/status/870168153778642945
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i dug thru it sure that i'd hit the weird ad spam at the account's open that those always have i refuse to believe that there are any people in california who voted for jerry brown and donald trump
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Badger of Basra posted:i refuse to believe that there are any people in california who voted for jerry brown and donald trump I've seen enough interviews where people said they thought Trump would give us a health care system like Canada's that I believe it
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