Taiwan Number 1

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Coolguye: Jul 6, 2011; Required by his programming!

it's kind of a no win situation for the kid in some respects, at least in theory. if you raise them white then there will always be a little dissonance when they look Asian but the voice is white and they have no stories nor roots from their apparent culture. other people will make it weird at some point or another and that's a fact. but by the same token, if you bend over backward to honor a culture that they literally only have skin deep you can end up depriving them of any home, anywhere, because they inherently have components from both.

in practice, of course, most places in the united states are so desensitized to assimilated foreign looking people now that it's not a loving big deal and holy poo poo chill out you crazy knob. like make sure they learn the language, that's fine so they can go down that path if they choose to, but acting like there is some deep and mystical connection between dna and culture is incredibly dumb.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:12

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# ? May 16, 2024 10:33

Steakandchips: Apr 30, 2009

Haier posted:

What roots? It's a baby. The kid has no loving clue unless you force it down his throat. Those people are insane.

This.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:16

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

A hearty lol to that. Take that to the grave. He's Chinese.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:19

Sten Freak: Sep 10, 2008; Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.; College Slice

post of the month

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:19

Ceciltron: Jan 11, 2007; Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!; Pillbug

That is so loving amazing, I love it.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:19

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

holy lol

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:20

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

I enjoy the 17 year old being portrayed as a sort of Korean ubermensch to the Chinese untermensch.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:21

Outrail: Jan 4, 2009; www.sapphicrobotica.com

"Behold my people! It is I, son of Park and Kim. Chinese exemplar returned to my homeland!"

"Piss off! You're Korean you fuckwit!"

"...China had always been a part of Korea."

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:42

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

That is hilarious and absurd.

If it's real someone please tell that guy that there are millions of ethnic Koreans from China who are largely culturally Chinese and if he's not going to keep it secret that's his out.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 17:44

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

I knew a kid adopted by white parents. They FILLED their house with african art, went on a trip to a few random countries in africa when he was young, and generally just drilled "AFRICA!!!" into him despite having no idea where his roots actually were and his bio-parents were generations back all american. He was also quarter german, but his parents ignored that part. He felt absolutely no connection with africa or african american culture (if anything he had a chip on his shoulder about it due to his parents ramming it down his throat while never feeling it resonated with him) and he actually ended up seeking out on his own his german side in his late teens and going to university there and now lives in Denmark doing IT poo poo or something for a germany company.

That adopted korean kid story sounds fake as hell (oh god I hope) but adoptive parents do do weird poo poo like that. Culture and race can be really generate some weird feelings growing up though. For instance this guy I met who's parents immigrated from central america to Canada, to a tiny middle of nowhere town of a thousand or so people. For his dad, Canada was the promised land and his home country, culture, and language were now obsolete and useless. His dad wanted to raise his son to be 100% Canadian, why teach him spanish? Why teach him about their former culture, they were NEVER going back? His mom hung onto the language and traditions a little, but it wasn't enough to really teach him. Growing up he felt 100% white and 100% Canadian because in this tiny town everyone knew everyone and his roots just never came up. It was only when he moved away, moved to Vancouver did he realize that to other people he was not white, and that he encountered actual racism. People would constantly ask him "where are you from?" and not take "Chetwynd" as an answer despite it being the truth. A lot of people assumed he was Indian and Indian customers would sometimes get really mad when he wouldn't tell them where in India he was from. He started to feel less Canadian and more foreign, yet when he went to a local place where a lot of Guatemalan immigrants hung out he realized he didn't speak the language well enough and felt like he didn't fit in at all, that he was just some small town white Canadian trying to pretend to be Guatemalan. So he's resenting his parents for not teaching them his language and culture, he's resenting white Canadians for seeing him as an "other" despite being born and raised here. It sent him into depression and alcoholism and it took years for him to figure himself out again.

So I can understand when white parents adopt some sort of visible minority wanting to try to avoid feelings like this by giving them some sort of connection with their biological parents culture, it just generally doesn't work because you need to be pretty much immersed in it for it to rub off in any meaningful way.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 18:02

Atlas Hugged: Mar 12, 2007; Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

My Korean friend is not a friend of Klaus Nomi.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 18:02

kimcicle: Feb 23, 2003

Grand Fromage posted:

I mean it's both but I was thinking Korean dating. An example story. One of my friends had started dating a new guy, so I asked her about how it started.

She said she'd met him at like a blind speed dating thing. She didn't particularly like him so turned him down, but he clearly was into her. A few days later she found him waiting outside when she left work. He said he'd managed to track down her employer and showed up to beg for a date. She said no. He followed her home, asking again and again. The next day he was waiting again. And the next. On weekends he would hang around outside her apartment or at the cafe across the street.

The stalking continued for about a month until she finally said okay because he was being so romantic. They went on a date and were now together. By this point I was as as one can get and asked why she didn't call the police and she said it wasn't weird, it was romantic!

This story was not in any way unique, most of the girls I knew had a similar creepy as gently caress story of how they met their boyfriends, but this was the one where I decided I was never again going to ask how anybody met. As far as I could tell from these and other stories I heard, the main dating strategy in Korea is stalking. Plus there's the clubs the single girls go to and get assigned numbers and sent off to sit with random dudes and all that poo poo.

I agree, the borderline stalking is weird. However, from my experiences (and I guess the social circles I was running in while I was in Korea), it never went as far as "begging for a month straight" or whatever. People just naturally gravitating towards each other due to shared hobbies and interests. Sometimes your parents would suggest you meet with a friend of a friend or whatever. I'm sure in the back of their minds the parents are already dreaming of perfect grandchildren, but it's not like they are saying "you're marrying this guy and that's final."

Maybe I got super lucky, I dunno. :shrug:

# ? Aug 11, 2017 18:53

Atlas Hugged: Mar 12, 2007; Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Someone post the story of the Gyopo Korea goon who let his friends drink all of his credit at the bar. That's my favorite Korea happy ending.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 19:17

Power Khan: Aug 20, 2011; by Fritz the Horse

"I brought my adopted son up as a german, by blasting marching music every morning and randomly yelling "ADLERHORST" and "GOTT MIT UNS" every day. As I checked the adoption papers, it turned out that his parents are ethnical french. I'm a monster. I should have noticed his rudeness, constant complaining, poor body hygiene and his habit of blowing smoke in everybody's face."

# ? Aug 11, 2017 19:33

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

I remember reading some article about black people not liking interracial adoption because they believed white people wouldnt be able to teach the children how to handle dealing with racism. Like the story about the dude in canada.

Its common to see in popular media the idea of "just be who you are" but the way people see you can have a pretty loving strong effect and going to a place where you are regarded differently for reason totally beyond your control can really gently caress a dude up, hell he might start drinking or worse walking alot and loving gross women he met on the internet.

# ? Aug 11, 2017 21:45

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Ups_rail posted:

I remember reading some article about black people not liking interracial adoption because they believed white people wouldnt be able to teach the children how to handle dealing with racism. Like the story about the dude in canada.

Its common to see in popular media the idea of "just be who you are" but the way people see you can have a pretty loving strong effect and going to a place where you are regarded differently for reason totally beyond your control can really gently caress a dude up, hell he might start drinking or worse walking alot and loving gross women he met on the internet.

lmao

# ? Aug 11, 2017 21:51

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

JaucheCharly posted:

I should have noticed his rudeness, constant complaining, poor body hygiene and his habit of blowing smoke in everybody's face."

How would that distinguish him from any other teenager, though?

# ? Aug 11, 2017 23:48

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

Outrail posted:

Can you please start an India thread when this happens? Maybe get a mod to probate anyone who starts with the overtly racist stuff?

I tried once. It's impossible to get it like this thread or the other Asia threads because very people posting here have gone, and if they did, they went for a week and hated it. Many things in the traditional culture that rules many aspects of the society are too foreign to discuss without needing to read books about it first. It just boils down to street making GBS threads and vegana memes while people spam those Varanasi dead bodies floating in the Ganga photos. And rape. Hilarious rape jokes. The threads immediately become comedy cemeteries because the most the average person knows about India is "curry with naan" and "rape."
Even though Indian news sites are utterly hilarious, and I am sure there is lots of material for india.jpg, it's impossible to get a good India thread here.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 04:48

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Need to find some Indian hypernationalists to dunk on

# ? Aug 12, 2017 04:54

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

hmm you can still visit this thread right? or maybe hang out in chatting...oh wait we cant have chat threads anymore...well maybe you could do funny stories in the steven universe thread.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 05:00

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Haier's actually moving to Arunachal Pradesh so he can be in both countries at once.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 05:06

BONGHITZ: Jan 1, 1970

Ups_rail posted:

I remember reading some article about black people not liking interracial adoption because they believed white people wouldnt be able to teach the children how to handle dealing with racism. Like the story about the dude in canada.

Its common to see in popular media the idea of "just be who you are" but the way people see you can have a pretty loving strong effect and going to a place where you are regarded differently for reason totally beyond your control can really gently caress a dude up, hell he might start drinking or worse walking alot and loving gross women he met on the internet.

Omg

# ? Aug 12, 2017 05:12

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

I was walking the other night and saw this. Here are the locusts lining up on a Thursday night to pay to get into this weird theme-garden place that displays "traditional Chinese culture." What it really is is a place where Han Chinese go to look at Hmong and other very distant people's cultural stuff so they can pat themselves on the back and say "Look at us, we did this." Out front is a huge statue of elephants with Brahma sitting on top, a Hindu god worshiped in other parts of SEA (such as Thailand and Burma, etc). It makes no sense to me. IMO, it's like an Inca going up to the Ohio mound builder society and saying "Wow, look at my culture!"

I believe it costs quite a bit to get in (at least 100+ RMB or $15 USD).

# ? Aug 12, 2017 05:14

Mechafunkzilla: Sep 11, 2006; If you want a vision of the future...

BrigadierSensible posted:

Not that anyone cares, or remembers, but here's an update on my visa situation. (Here is where all of you get to laugh at me and say I told you so)

Well after all the faffing about with waiting etc. it turns out that the Jiangsu Provincial Educational Bureau has taken issue with the wording on the DFAT, (Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade) Authentication of my Police Background Check. Also, they didn't like how the signature on the Police Check was messy and didn't say the persons name or something.

So I now have to apply for another Police Check, somehow telling the Police to sign it properly, then get it Authorised again, again telling DFAT to be extra super duper careful about the wording. (they sent me a copy so as to tell me what wording the Education Bureau finds acceptable), and then get that Authenticated by the Chinese consulate. Again. Like I had done in June.

Anyone familiar with any of these processes know that this will take at least 3 weeks to complete. And even then they can't/won't tell me if/when they can get the work permit to me so as I can take it, (with the rest of the documents I meticulously collected months ago) and apply for my visa.

I offered the possibility of taking the Police Check I have to DFAT to get re-Authenticated, and then re-Authorized at the Chinese Consulate. And they seemed keen. This MIGHT work, and it might not.

But ... gently caress em.

It's the weekend now, but I am going to start looking and applying for new jobs everywhere but China from Monday. Also as further proof of my stupidity/naivete I blame the company less than I blame the weasally petty middle managers at the Education Bureau.

lol I hope you enjoyed your stay in the China Zone

# ? Aug 12, 2017 06:03

Grognan: Jan 23, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqvweTYTI0

# ? Aug 12, 2017 06:14

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

https://www.facebook.com/pomofoent/videos/484689198532899/?hc_ref=ARQ66NsjBON5qVehnsp5dvOll0Qy9iR617er5lZdaOgDTLf67nrKitvhz5ltVGAl8GQ

Unfortunately it is a facebook link, but it gives me the heaves.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 06:31

Duckbox: Sep 7, 2007

Haier posted:

I was walking the other night and saw this. Here are the locusts lining up on a Thursday night to pay to get into this weird theme-garden place that displays "traditional Chinese culture." What it really is is a place where Han Chinese go to look at Hmong and other very distant people's cultural stuff so they can pat themselves on the back and say "Look at us, we did this." Out front is a huge statue of elephants with Brahma sitting on top, a Hindu god worshiped in other parts of SEA (such as Thailand and Burma, etc). It makes no sense to me. IMO, it's like an Inca going up to the Ohio mound builder society and saying "Wow, look at my culture!"

I believe it costs quite a bit to get in (at least 100+ RMB or $15 USD).

I said in the political maps thread that Han was a nationality that's succeeded in convincing itself that it's a unified ethnic group. A bunch of people got mad at me because Wikipedia said it was tho, so idk.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 08:01

BrigadierSensible: Feb 16, 2012; I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Fojar38 posted:

Need to find some Indian hypernationalists to dunk on

My Aunt is a Modi supporter, so I get a lot of that sort of stuff on my facebook feed.

My Dad is Anti-Modi however, for the big reasons of "He want's people to speak Hindi! I am a South Indian so I will only speak Tamil! (Or maybe Kannada if I have to.) And he's a religious fundie!"

It's always fun to see him comment on her posts and get swarmed by a thousand semi-literate IT professionals from Bangalore calling him Un-Indian

# ? Aug 12, 2017 09:16

Imperialist Dog: Oct 21, 2008; "I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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My VPN is having trouble uploading all my pics from my package tour to Imgur, so have some funny tweets instead

chigger rap

https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/895994729657016321

racism

https://twitter.com/EmilyZFeng/status/895855153487675392

beep beep the drivers will figure it out in time

https://twitter.com/lilou60706/status/896268032481165312

edit: paging aatrek?

https://twitter.com/zombie_chris/status/896267342983942145

double edit: cctv keeps on giving

https://twitter.com/CCTV/status/896212202419519488

Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Aug 12, 2017

# ? Aug 12, 2017 09:19

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

I jumped to the middle of that rap and got --

The tall ones become models
Girls giving it up freely
Feel so superior? You're a loving idiot!

-- haha

# ? Aug 12, 2017 09:24

Power Khan: Aug 20, 2011; by Fritz the Horse

How small is that rapper? 120cm?

# ? Aug 12, 2017 09:30

Porfiriato: Jan 4, 2016

Imperialist Dog posted:

double edit: cctv keeps on giving

https://twitter.com/CCTV/status/896212202419519488

But...but...China didn't invent three of those, and the fourth one kind of sucks and results in piles of derelict bikes blocking all the sidewalks around here???

confused-jackie-chan.jpg

# ? Aug 12, 2017 10:05

Atlas Hugged: Mar 12, 2007; Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

They didn't invent bike sharing either.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 10:32

Porfiriato: Jan 4, 2016

But they invented the bike sharing aye-pee-pee. (I think? Maybe?)

Truly China will lead the world in innovation by 2020.

# ? Aug 12, 2017 11:04

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Imperialist Dog posted:

double edit: cctv keeps on giving

https://twitter.com/CCTV/status/896212202419519488

im dying

# ? Aug 12, 2017 11:25

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

Those people that say East Asians do not have body odor... loving LOL. It's been 32-34C (89-93F) lately, day and night without change, and the humidity is practically the same thickness. It was 33C/91F today, but the Heat Index was 41C/105F and soggy as hell.
Anyway, dudes have been loving blowing out the body stink lately. Like shocking levels of musk just following them in an aura of pungent eye-watering mist. Not quite India levels, but definitely on that US Pacific Northwest Hippie or Crust Punk stench, with the unwashed "locker room smell" clothes plus horrendous foot and armpit odor. Dudes are legit foul, and even Chaoshan Girl is asking me "Why does the train smell like rotten meat suddenly?" They'll ride by slowly on their rental bikes and leave a hot trail of funk that is as persistent as any expensive perfume. Truly something awful.

Some guy forced himself in front of me on the escalator, shoving me with about 15cm of space to squeeze through. It was dumb as hell and I saw it as an act of aggression. I went to do my usual "Flat Tire" and step on the back of his shoes and saw he had flip-flops, which my favorite for this. I turn my foot sideways and got both of his flops under my shoe. When we reached the top he tried to walk and both his feet came out of his shoes while he stumbled forward. I shoved past him and walked on like nothing happened. #YouGotFaced #FLOPSTOP

I saw a girl about age 8 with her pants off, taking a piss, maybe a poo poo, on the sidewalk, while her dad stood there holding her pants and playing phone. I don't know how these kids don't get stage fright.

BrigadierSensible posted:

My Aunt is a Modi supporter, so I get a lot of that sort of stuff on my facebook feed.

My Dad is Anti-Modi however, for the big reasons of "He want's people to speak Hindi! I am a South Indian so I will only speak Tamil! (Or maybe Kannada if I have to.) And he's a religious fundie!"

It's always fun to see him comment on her posts and get swarmed by a thousand semi-literate IT professionals from Bangalore calling him Un-Indian

HOLD UP. Are you brown? Do you wonder if that has anything to do with the Chinese company dicking you around with your visa? It would be a good way to save face for them. "It's not OUR fault we can't get your visa... heh.."

# ? Aug 12, 2017 15:03