A 50S RAYGUN posted:

i don't even know if that's true for the first time you run it, but you can definitely just run 4 once you have your completion.

source: literally just ran 4

apostateCourier posted:

Given that Y'shtola literally sees aether, I have this weird feeling that she would have called us out on that already.

Solo Wing Pixy posted:

My thinking is more that whatever Scion you run into in the level 10-ish quests would have taken one look at you with their magic aether-detecting goggles, noticed you were a primal, and shanked you while you were still a squishy pugilist wearing level 5 Au Ra refugee rags. Not like you've done any great deeds that might give you pause at that point in time either.

the idea of the WoL getting involuntary primal-hijacked in a crisis is one I hadn't thought of, and makes a lot of sense.

Also, I don't really mess with parsers, so I'll admit that I enjoy making the little aggro bar under my name shoot past the (other) DPS and occasionally the tank before I pop LD.

Count Bleck posted:

The WoL is a primal theory is poo poo.

Fister Roboto posted:

It's almost as bad as the "Hydalaen is actually the baddie" theory.

Captain Oblivious posted:

The WoL is a primal theory is dumb because there's already a wealth of Actually Canon explanations for why we can do the poo poo we can do, nerds just look for a twist even when there isn't one.

hobbesmaster posted:

Well what else were we supposed to think at the end of heavensward?

hobbesmaster posted:

Well what else were we supposed to think at the end of heavensward?

Velthice posted:

cheetah7071 posted:

I'm actually a little surprised that "the WoL is a primal and has always been one" is a real theory. "The WoL is being exposed to very similar circumstances to Louisioux when he became Phoenix and this may result in primalization at some unspecified point in the future" is how I understood it, and is much more consistent with the text

Velthice posted:

louie only primalized when he made a conscious decision to take all the aether from his failed ritual into himself to punch a hole in bahamut. he even says this himself. You need actual intent. Nobody just explodes into a primal from people wishing really hard, otherwise thordad and his merry men would have put their foot on your throat (and nidhogg's) as soon as you walked in the door, and they had some thousand or so years of constant prayer, generations of society literally dedicated and built around it, up on the wol. Intent, belief and aether, you need all three. That's why it's a dumb theory.

cheetah7071 posted:

The WoL bathes in the corpses of being made of pure aether every patch. At this point basically all of Eorzea and parts of Othard know you as their savior and are hoping and wishing for your success. Hopes and wishes aren't that far from prayers. At that point all that's missing is intent--and that sounds like a solid potential plot beat to me.

Solo Wing Pixy posted:

That the WoL is really, really, really pissed off at the guys who killed her boyfriend.

cheetah7071 posted:

e: The plot beat being Alphinaud or whoever realizes all the ingredients for primalization are there and then discussing whether it's really okay to use it to defeat ____ future threat. Or something like that.

Velthice posted:

Only if they have the most hamfisted writers, which sure, might happen some 10 years down the line or so. I can't think of a worse thing to do with a mmo player character than taking decision and characterization out of the players hands (which is something they've been making a consistent effort to improve in later patches after constant criticism) to railroad them to some plot point that can be done and has been done by npcs a few times now. You can agree with gaius, you can be just like zenos, but nothing is ever going to come from it besides background fluff because people tend to be invested in their characters and no sane person is going to gently caress with that

SwissArmyDruid posted:

That's why the speculation is that this won't become a relevent plot point until when FFXIV shuts down: There won't *be* any game after that.

Velthice posted:

if they were making final fantasy xiv a realm reborn reborn then yea, you could have a cool send off, but that ain't happening so it'll instead just fade into obscurity and lack of updates as it's put on maint mode. a fitting retirement after saving the world

Solo Wing Pixy posted:

Only if my WoL can retire to the Azim Steppe and raise sheep with my cool and good friends the Mol.

cheetah7071 posted:

This game will end with neo bahamut blowing up eorzea followed by a failed kickstarter campaign for another reboot

UHD posted:

you mean the kickstarter will fail to reach its goals, or it'll blow the goal out of the water but then the game never sees the light of day for various inevitably stupid reasons

Solo Wing Pixy posted:

All of the knowledge in this universe is but a speck in a neuron of your all-encompassing, all-knowing transcendent space brain: Pulling with Provoke, then using Ultimatum to get hate on the rest of the mobs.


Hey now, the WoL has more personality than GW2's (who's just an extension of Trahearne) in spite of having nothing but one-line replies and emotes. gently caress Treesus I hope he gets Dutch Elm Disease and rots away. actually I gather that he's dead now so maybe the new expansion will be better?

I feel kind of awkward that I made a post saying how pretty FFXIV is (besides some SuperFX-grade NPC texturing), and kicked off an argument about how ugly it is instead. Look, I'm playing on an ultrabook with a GeForce 730M, I'm impressed that I can run anything more demanding than a ROM of Star Fox 64.

Oh yeah, I was so annoyed with the crappy healer in Doma Castle that I forgot to mention hitting level 50 on DRK last night. Holy crap, that final quest.



FF XIV needs a spinoff where we give in to the DARKNESS or whatever and go on excellent split-personality adventures with Fray picking up loot and telling NPCs to gently caress off.