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A 50S RAYGUN posted:i don't even know if that's true for the first time you run it, but you can definitely just run 4 once you have your completion. You do a series of quests to do each floor so yes, that's exactly how it works. Now my DRK is geared/overgeared I just do o4n
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apostateCourier posted:Given that Y'shtola literally sees aether, I have this weird feeling that she would have called us out on that already. A couple of plausible explanations with a minimal amount of assumptions: a) We're a very small Primal, comparatively speaking. 2) Instead of draining aether from Eorzea, we were tapping straight into Hydelyn, and Minigardsormr taught us how to self-regulate so that we're not just indiscriminately sucking down all of the aether. iii) The Scions and anyone you come in contact with are already tempered by you, they just don't know it yet. ****) Something about the summoning process as taught by Ascians is deliberately flawed, and that the Primals being summoned through Ascian teachings are deliberately imperfect, and aren't supposed to suck down aether indiscriminately either. Solo Wing Pixy posted:My thinking is more that whatever Scion you run into in the level 10-ish quests would have taken one look at you with their magic aether-detecting goggles, noticed you were a primal, and shanked you while you were still a squishy pugilist wearing level 5 Au Ra refugee rags. Not like you've done any great deeds that might give you pause at that point in time either. I mean, when was the last time that they looked at *you* with the special goggles? You probably weren't that out of the ordinary just starting out either, and probably were indistinguishable from any other schmuck in terms of power level at the time. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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The WoL is a primal theory is poo poo.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:07 |
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It's almost as bad as the "Hydalaen is actually the baddie" theory.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:25 |
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Zenos is Yda.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:29 |
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Count Bleck posted:The WoL is a primal theory is poo poo. You're right, the cool and good theory is that the WoL is going to become a primal
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:30 |
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The other 7 chumps that show up in primal fights are my 7 squires that carry the literally hundreds of tons of armor, weapons, gil, portraits of Kan-E-Senna, cans of paint, and fully cooked steaks that must be available to me at all times.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:30 |
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The WoL is a primal theory is dumb because there's already a wealth of Actually Canon explanations for why we can do the poo poo we can do, nerds just look for a twist even when there isn't one.
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Fister Roboto posted:It's almost as bad as the "Hydalaen is actually the baddie" theory. Well in the warrior of darkness timeline......
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:34 |
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Also it shits all over the idea of the WOL being a normal everyman with a blank slate background so that players can feel more immersed. That's kind of important for an MMO.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:35 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:The WoL is a primal theory is dumb because there's already a wealth of Actually Canon explanations for why we can do the poo poo we can do, nerds just look for a twist even when there isn't one. Well what else were we supposed to think at the end of heavensward?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:37 |
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I'm actually a little surprised that "the WoL is a primal and has always been one" is a real theory. "The WoL is being exposed to very similar circumstances to Louisioux when he became Phoenix and this may result in primalization at some unspecified point in the future" is how I understood it, and is much more consistent with the text
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:58 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Well what else were we supposed to think at the end of heavensward? Literally anything else if you have been paying any attention at all.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 01:58 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Well what else were we supposed to think at the end of heavensward? That the WoL is really, really, really pissed off at the guys who killed her boyfriend. I'll show you breaking the limits as only a true Warrior of Light can. i have no idea if stuff from way back in 3.0 needs spoiler tags but eh.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:06 |
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The warrior of light is a primal
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:19 |
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actually it's cool
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:26 |
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The primal of warrior is a light.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:26 |
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the 3-7 chumps that come with you to dungeons/primals are basically your "good" adventuring pals, who obviously can't deal with seen with such a huge tryhard nerd (read: You) and are happy to let you take the credit.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:33 |
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kingdom hearts is a primal
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 02:39 |
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cheetah7071 posted:I'm actually a little surprised that "the WoL is a primal and has always been one" is a real theory. "The WoL is being exposed to very similar circumstances to Louisioux when he became Phoenix and this may result in primalization at some unspecified point in the future" is how I understood it, and is much more consistent with the text louie only primalized when he made a conscious decision to take all the aether from his failed ritual into himself to punch a hole in bahamut. he even says this himself. You need actual intent. Nobody just explodes into a primal from people wishing really hard, otherwise thordad and his merry men would have put their foot on your throat (and nidhogg's) as soon as you walked in the door, and they had some thousand or so years of constant prayer, generations of society literally dedicated and built around it, up on the wol. Intent, belief and aether, you need all three. That's why it's a dumb theory.
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Velthice posted:louie only primalized when he made a conscious decision to take all the aether from his failed ritual into himself to punch a hole in bahamut. he even says this himself. You need actual intent. Nobody just explodes into a primal from people wishing really hard, otherwise thordad and his merry men would have put their foot on your throat (and nidhogg's) as soon as you walked in the door, and they had some thousand or so years of constant prayer, generations of society literally dedicated and built around it, up on the wol. Intent, belief and aether, you need all three. That's why it's a dumb theory. The WoL bathes in the corpses of being made of pure aether every patch. At this point basically all of Eorzea and parts of Othard know you as their savior and are hoping and wishing for your success. Hopes and wishes aren't that far from prayers. At that point all that's missing is intent--and that sounds like a solid potential plot beat to me. e: The plot beat being Alphinaud or whoever realizes all the ingredients for primalization are there and then discussing whether it's really okay to use it to defeat ____ future threat. Or something like that. cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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cheetah7071 posted:The WoL bathes in the corpses of being made of pure aether every patch. At this point basically all of Eorzea and parts of Othard know you as their savior and are hoping and wishing for your success. Hopes and wishes aren't that far from prayers. At that point all that's missing is intent--and that sounds like a solid potential plot beat to me. Only if they have the most hamfisted writers, which sure, might happen some 10 years down the line or so. I can't think of a worse thing to do with a mmo player character than taking decision and characterization out of the players hands (which is something they've been making a consistent effort to improve in later patches after constant criticism) to railroad them to some plot point that can be done and has been done by npcs a few times now. You can agree with gaius, you can be just like zenos, but nothing is ever going to come from it besides background fluff because people tend to be invested in their characters and no sane person is going to gently caress with that
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:08 |
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:That the WoL is really, really, really pissed off at the guys who killed her boyfriend. This is 100% canon based on the DRK quests.
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cheetah7071 posted:e: The plot beat being Alphinaud or whoever realizes all the ingredients for primalization are there and then discussing whether it's really okay to use it to defeat ____ future threat. Or something like that. This i'd accept as a temporary sort of thing. Like yo we need to turn the wol into a megazord real quick to fight zeromus or something, but permanent, well that's it, you're this forever now, no. bad idea.
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Velthice posted:Only if they have the most hamfisted writers, which sure, might happen some 10 years down the line or so. I can't think of a worse thing to do with a mmo player character than taking decision and characterization out of the players hands (which is something they've been making a consistent effort to improve in later patches after constant criticism) to railroad them to some plot point that can be done and has been done by npcs a few times now. You can agree with gaius, you can be just like zenos, but nothing is ever going to come from it besides background fluff because people tend to be invested in their characters and no sane person is going to gently caress with that That's why the speculation is that this won't become a relevent plot point until when FFXIV shuts down: There won't *be* any game after that.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:That's why the speculation is that this won't become a relevent plot point until when FFXIV shuts down: There won't *be* any game after that. well I'm sure that'll happen in about... *looks over at ffxi* uh... *sweats nervously*
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:14 |
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I mean, FF11 already pretty much did what those guys are talking about in Rhapsodies
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:15 |
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I feel blessed for playing a Ninja for prolly the first time. No aggro games. If I want to pull a boss early, I'm just gonna Shade the tank if he intends to be a dick about it.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:15 |
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if they were making final fantasy xiv a realm reborn reborn then yea, you could have a cool send off, but that ain't happening so it'll instead just fade into obscurity and lack of updates as it's put on maint mode. a fitting retirement after saving the world
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also also considering they haven't even decided what we're doing in the next expac or so, it's pretty unlikely that have a plot stored in a *break in case of shutdown* case. they're literally just making poo poo up as they go. ...perhaps the sa thread has more in common with the square dev team than we know
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Velthice posted:if they were making final fantasy xiv a realm reborn reborn then yea, you could have a cool send off, but that ain't happening so it'll instead just fade into obscurity and lack of updates as it's put on maint mode. a fitting retirement after saving the world Only if my WoL can retire to the Azim Steppe and raise sheep with my cool and good friends the Mol.
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:19 |
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:Only if my WoL can retire to the Azim Steppe and raise sheep with my cool and good friends the Mol. only if you luck out and snag one of the limited housing plots
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:20 |
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I've never played an MMO that ended, how have other ones dealt with the story?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:27 |
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This game will end with neo bahamut blowing up eorzea followed by a failed kickstarter campaign for another reboot
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:29 |
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cheetah7071 posted:This game will end with neo bahamut blowing up eorzea followed by a failed kickstarter campaign for another reboot you mean the kickstarter will fail to reach its goals, or it'll blow the goal out of the water but then the game never sees the light of day for various inevitably stupid reasons
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 03:52 |
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Final Citizen XIV
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UHD posted:you mean the kickstarter will fail to reach its goals, or it'll blow the goal out of the water but then the game never sees the light of day for various inevitably stupid reasons does it matter?
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# ? Aug 24, 2017 04:05 |
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wol isn't a primal but there will for sure be a "wol primal" thing at some point
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I'm late on this butSolo Wing Pixy posted:All of the knowledge in this universe is but a speck in a neuron of your all-encompassing, all-knowing transcendent space brain: Pulling with Provoke, then using Ultimatum to get hate on the rest of the mobs. This is the funniest thing when you're a lala in a comedy glam
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