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botany posted:uh crowd-sourcing rescue vehicles does not look like good preparation You're not necessarily wrong, but officials requesting that civilians who are already engaging in emergency response get in touch to coordinate is a good idea and fairly common. My brother and his wife live in California and they both got HAM operators licenses so they can help coordinate during large scale emergencies. 
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Cingulate posted:So is there an upside? Is Texas in 2017 better prepared than New Orleans was in 05? Is the landscape different? I can't imagine it will be as bad as Katrina. Experts are saying it's going to be much worse. I understand it's hard to imagine. Don't know what to say about upsides. 
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Aug 27, 2017 18:24
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9/11 Katrina and now Harvey All in my lifetime. With global warming and an utter lack of faith in any level of government things are only going to keep getting worse. I've thought this before in passing but now I'm really starting to think it really is immoral to bring kids into the world now. We're hosed
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WrenP-Complete posted:Experts are saying it's going to be much worse. I understand it's hard to imagine. Don't know what to say about upsides. Upside is there probably won't be a second hurricane that smashes into Houston immediately after Harvey dies?
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Prester Jane posted:God this whole thing is terrible. I hope I'm wrong and FEMA manages a marvelous response despite Trump and the assorted obstacles they face. I'm working as a part of a fed agency w/ FEMA on the response. One thing we're working on is on assessing oil leaks/spills FYI. It's the same people as have been for years past. Ultimately it's a mix of funding and local agency working with FEMA in how recovery ops go. Rebuilding, insurance, economic, and environmental impact - well, that's beyond the scope of the urgent response.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Hurricanes do not work that way? People already pointed out that hurricanes recharge, but I am struggling to find one that has gone back out to sea, recharged, and then went for a second rampage right where it had come from. A more typical recharge would be something like skimming over some stuff in the Caribbean, a glancing blow in Florida, and then final landfall. Katrina was like that. I don't know of any hurricanes that went all, "Hey bro I heard you liked water so I went back to the ocean to get some water for your water!"
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Shukaro posted:Upside is there probably won't be a second hurricane that smashes into Houston immediately after Harvey dies? It's possible that Harvey smashes into Houston immediately after Harvey leaves.
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Captain Monkey posted:You are falling for hyperbole. I'm currently in downtown Houston, its seriously bad and it will be much worse, but its a flooding disaster. Humans have been dealing with those since we started farming. Whats your plan for supporting the daily needs of 2.35 million people without roads? Also you are making a rather odd argument considering that humans have been abandoning major cities because of floods since we started farming as well......
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Aug 27, 2017 18:28
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Just heard from my friend in Katy: they've still got power & haven't seen any atypical flooding in their neighborhood
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just think positive! 
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Waffles Inc. posted:9/11 Those were drat near insignificant compared to events like the 2010 Haiti earthquake the 2004 Indian ocean earthquake/tsunami. Horrible poo poo is always happening.
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Aug 27, 2017 18:31
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Electric Phantasm posted:Seriously will there ever be a point where he will shut up about his election win. Why does that matter so much to him? It's his only real accomplishment.
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AceOfFlames posted:Yup. This is also why I can't fathom why everyone is into healthy eating. I'm HOPING I die of cancer before the civilization collapse. While you're all going Mad Max over the last bottle of la croix I'll be watching smugly from the afterlife, arteries spackled shut by McDonald's special sauce.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Just heard from my friend in Katy: they've still got power & haven't seen any atypical flooding in their neighborhood Thank goodness your friend is okay.
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fishing with the fam posted:Those were drat near insignificant compared to events like the 2010 Haiti earthquake the 2004 Indian ocean earthquake/tsunami. Horrible poo poo is always happening. Yup. We just hear about it in HD now, rather than a blurb in the international news section of the paper like we'd gave had in the 1990's.
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fishing with the fam posted:Those were drat near insignificant compared to events like the 2010 Haiti earthquake the 2004 Indian ocean earthquake/tsunami. Horrible poo poo is always happening. Well yeah, throw that on top too
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Captain Monkey posted:You are falling for hyperbole. I'm currently in downtown Houston, its seriously bad and it will be much worse, but its a flooding disaster. Humans have been dealing with those since we started farming. humanity survived the great deluge which was deliberately sent by g*d to destroy all life on earth, i think we can handle lil harvey
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https://twitter.com/shinynichols2/status/901828622994083840 https://twitter.com/abc13houston/status/901829696672980992
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:People already pointed out that hurricanes recharge, but I am struggling to find one that has gone back out to sea, recharged, and then went for a second rampage right where it had come from. A more typical recharge would be something like skimming over some stuff in the Caribbean, a glancing blow in Florida, and then final landfall. Katrina was like that. I don't know of any hurricanes that went all, "Hey bro I heard you liked water so I went back to the ocean to get some water for your water!" Faye in 2008 did this to East Central Florida.  Hurricanes are huge things that don't have to hit land at the exact same place to cause a double impact to an area. Harvey didn't even make landfall at Houston, the current tracking shows it might simply come back for a second pass at the area.
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guidoanselmi posted:I'm working as a part of a fed agency w/ FEMA on the response. One thing we're working on is on assessing oil leaks/spills FYI. Godspeed, the American people are with you and yours today.
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Kinda expecting to see a gator boat putzing along
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Waffles Inc. posted:9/11 Just remember that we're a 1st world country; imagine what climate change will do to the more impoverished countries.
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Waffles Inc. posted:Well yeah, throw that on top too
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fishing with the fam posted:Those were drat near insignificant compared to events like the 2010 Haiti earthquake the 2004 Indian ocean earthquake/tsunami. Horrible poo poo is always happening.
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well no im sure that part of mexico just SW of corpus christi is fine, because i never saw them mentioned on the news even once
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Aug 27, 2017 18:39
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Being stationed in San Antonio and having driven through Houston, they should have called for an evacuation days before Harvey hit, but lol their gov't in TX is poo poo so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Calibanibal posted:humanity survived the great deluge which was deliberately sent by g*d to destroy all life on earth, i think we can handle lil harvey This is exactly the sort of flooding event that would have inspired the original great flood myth, by the way, although given where it probably originated, it probably wasn't a hurricane. But we're talking similar cataclysmic levels of water somewhere it isn't supposed to be.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:just think positive! I can't wait to see the Branco on how its a good thing the feds cut funding for flood insurance just in time for Harvey.
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BadOptics posted:Being stationed in San Antonio and having driven through Houston, they should have called for an evacuation days before Harvey hit, but lol their gov't in TX is poo poo so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's the most damning takeaway. Anyone who's lived in South Texas knows what happens when it rains too hard.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:just think positive! Christ I forgot how much of a reprehensible excuse for a human being Asay was. I'm glad he's dead.
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Calibanibal posted:well no im sure that part of mexico just SW of corpus christi is fine, because i never saw them mentioned on the news even once Corpus Christi's a good 150+ miles away from the border and it's on the southern edge of the storm to begin with. Mexico hasn't been hit too hard.
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Carlosologist posted:https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/901093723932590080 What is this hard on with getting undocumented immigrants out? What did they do to Trump? Seriously, this is stupidly, I humanely excessive.
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Hastings posted:What is this hard on with getting undocumented immigrants out? What did they do to Trump? Seriously, this is stupidly, I humanely excessive. They aren't white and there is a legal excuse to kick them out of the country. That's all there is to it.
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Cingulate posted:Bottom line is, it's really hard for a society in the 1st world to experience something as bad as what you can experience in the 3rd world. Even when you factor in tragic disasters like this one. Not much of a consolidation for Texans drowning right now I assume, but if you're not directly affected, that's still the facts. There are old and infirm in the 1st world too, you know. The people who can't really take care of themselves, but still make do with the best that they can. I am literally trying to find anyway I can to get to the medical center so I can help out at work. Just because we do live in a 1st world country, doesn't mean that people aren't dying or suffering because of it all the same.
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Hastings posted:What is this hard on with getting undocumented immigrants out? What did they do to Trump? Seriously, this is stupidly, I humanely excessive. They aren't white and Trump's base likes it when he hurts brown people.
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Hastings posted:What is this hard on with getting undocumented immigrants out? What did they do to Trump? Seriously, this is stupidly, I humanely excessive. The fundamental tenet of the Narrativist worldview is that all problems are fixed by violently purging undesirables from society that is quite literally all there is too it. Conservatives think that in order to MAGA they have to rid society of the impure by any means necessary.
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Hastings posted:What is this hard on with getting undocumented immigrants out? What did they do to Trump? Are you kidding me? They're the perfect "other" enemy to blame everything on, as you'll literally never get rid of all of them. The GOP has been dog whistling about immigrants forever, now Trump realized what the crazy base wants is just a bullhorn blaring "The immigrants are the cause of all your problems" constantly.
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Cingulate posted:Bottom line is, it's really hard for a society in the 1st world to experience something as bad as what you can experience in the 3rd world. Even when you factor in tragic disasters like this one. Not much of a consolidation for Texans drowning right now I assume, but if you're not directly affected, that's still the facts. I'm glad you're willing to concede that life in Mombasa may not, in fact, be a fate worse than death. Otherwise this would be morally horrific faux-progressivism.
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If you want extra warm fuzzies over this texas disaster, reflect on exactly what's floating around in that floodwater from a disease standpoint.
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