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LoseHound posted:If want a vision of Kappa Mikey with schoolgirl pooooorn bullshit, please enjoy the pitch pilot for the show. It features such wonderful and clever jokes like I'm mystified that someone managed to make so many off-model shots in Flash. And I feel terrible, but I kinda grinned at the WW2 denial thing.  HSR is charming as hell. "That's a great story!" *Brbrbrbrb~!* Snowglobe of Doom posted:Part of me wants classic 50s Bugs Bunny or even Daffy Duck shoehorned into something like Dragonball Z or even Fist of the North Star. I feel like Cromartie gets close to this in spirit.
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I dunno if you remember much Dragon Ball Z, but Bugs Bunny would fit in a hell of a lot better than you might thank. Goku is basically Superman if he was also Homer Simpson.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Part of me wants classic 50s Bugs Bunny or even Daffy Duck shoehorned into something like Dragonball Z or even Fist of the North Star. Inescapable Duck posted:I dunno if you remember much Dragon Ball Z, but Bugs Bunny would fit in a hell of a lot better than you might thank. Goku is basically Superman if he was also Homer Simpson. Apparently the new Dragonball series covers this in one episode. They have a character from Toriyama's gag series cross over and Goku and Vegeta have to keep her occupied, resulting in both of them being completely shown up by her ability to ignore the rules of their universe.
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Inescapable Duck posted:I dunno if you remember much Dragon Ball Z, but Bugs Bunny would fit in a hell of a lot better than you might thank. Goku is basically Superman if he was also Homer Simpson. The original DragonBall manga/show is still my favorite because it went all in on the silly gags and had, in my opinion, more creative fights as a result. It also went all on one the creepy stuff unfortunately but what can you do.
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Das Boo posted:I think it's reasonable to say a good parody will always come from love rather than disdain. Kung Fu Panda was this.
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Inkspot posted:David Hyde Pierce being sidelined as an effeminate little weirdo is such a disservice to how good of an actor he is. Pick any random Frasier episode and watch what he does no matter what else is going on. The man is a master. You just reminded me of this gem, which is basically like a great cartoon skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mWiPaQ872c
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dogsicle posted:Apparently the new Dragonball series covers this in one episode. They have a character from Toriyama's gag series cross over and Goku and Vegeta have to keep her occupied, resulting in both of them being completely shown up by her ability to ignore the rules of their universe. She is also canonically the strongest character in the multiverse
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dogsicle posted:Apparently the new Dragonball series covers this in one episode. They have a character from Toriyama's gag series cross over and Goku and Vegeta have to keep her occupied, resulting in both of them being completely shown up by her ability to ignore the rules of their universe.   Dragon Ball is at its best when it's being funny, despite being known for being punchman show #1
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See also: The Driving Episode.
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Das Boo posted:I think it's reasonable to say a good parody will always come from love rather than disdain. This isn't true at all, though. There are plenty of very funny, very mean-spirited parodies. Its just a question of what deserves it.
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It's just a lot easier to make an effective parody out of love.
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Sep 4, 2017 17:36
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Das Boo posted:HSR is charming as hell. "That's a great story!" *Brbrbrbrb~!* A few years ago they tried to get the H*R guys to make original webtoons for Disney XD but most of them weren't very good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv42ljNCs98 Still glad they're getting work, though! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1WN5uGzdtI
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:This isn't true at all, though. There are plenty of very funny, very mean-spirited parodies. Its just a question of what deserves it. What are you thinking of?
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The only mean spirited parody I can think of is GTA and holy cow those are just the unfunniest bullshit ever
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Most political parody normally comes from a place of scorn for their subject. I don't think the Onion started as good ol'e fashion ribbing of things they respect.
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All the ones I'm thinking of have enough love to pull at the nuances over the stereotypes. Like Pick brought up Kung Fu Panda: It's not just following a story parodying kung fu films, it embodies them through theme, color, design, lighting, camera work, choreography, etc. You would really have to enthusiastically watch a lot of kung fu films to pick up on all them details.World Famous W posted:Most political parody normally comes from a place of scorn for their subject. Ah, I was only considering my statement as far as film. I guess the difference would be the necessity for massive cohesion in a film versus the individuality of an article? At the same time, if you have someone who hates politics writing a political parody, it's going to be a poo poo parody. They'd have to have some enthusiasm for the subject, just in a broader sense.
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I wouldn't say it's mean-spirited exactly, but I seriously doubt that the makers of Airplane! had any particular love for disaster movies.
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The Airplane! boys wound up going down a dark path with parody.
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Das Boo posted:The Airplane! boys wound up going down a dark path with parody. Perhaps, but man, Airplane! is funny.
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Pick posted:Perhaps, but man, Airplane! is funny. No argument. I'd just hazard a guess there was a degree of study that went into Zero Hour! that was missing from... everything else.
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A person cannot write or direct the girl scouts bar fight without loving everything and everyone in life
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Das Boo posted:No argument. I'd just hazard a guess there was a degree of study that went into Zero Hour! that was missing from... everything else. The Naked Gun was a classic.  Hot Shots! less so, but I've still got a soft spot for it.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I wouldn't say it's mean-spirited exactly, but I seriously doubt that the makers of Airplane! had any particular love for disaster movies. Any fan of Airplane owes it to themself to watch Airport 1975.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The Naked Gun was a classic. Naked Gun, I'll give you. Hot Shots! I loved as a kid, but it was luckluster upon revision. Still, the ____ Movie list has since eclipsed my goodwill, much like mid-to-late episodes of The Simpsons. 
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Das Boo posted:Naked Gun, I'll give you. Hot Shots! I loved as a kid, but it was luckluster upon revision. Still, the ____ Movie list has since eclipsed my goodwill, much like mid-to-late episodes of The Simpsons. To be fair those later abominations were all Friedberg and Seltzer, ZAZ were only tangentially related. Edit: Though one of the Zuckers did go crazy and made An American Carol, which arguably is a parody of itself. Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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Starting to rewatch Lilo and Stitch for the first time in God-knows-how-long, since Netflix yanks it tomorrow. Man, I forgot about a lot of this.
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"Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw." EDIT: So yes, it's still a very good movie. Though I suppose I'll have the unpopular(?) opinion that the best parts are the escape at the beginning and the chase scene at the very end... I certainly wouldn't have the film without the parts in-between, but there were so many avoidable screw-ups piling on top of one another that it got kind of difficult to watch. (On the other hand, all those screw-ups are why the ending felt as sweet as it did, so...?) After this, on to the other Disney film Netflix is nixing tomorrow, Emperor's New Groove - a film I remember much more clearly, but recall really liking (despite initial misgivings with the trailer as a kid, because I was dumb). So that'll be fun! Shadow Hog fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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Das Boo posted:What are you thinking of? Starship Troopers, and possibly the recent Death Note adaptation although it's tricky both because people will refuse to believe it's good and also because it's somewhat more ambiguous whether it's mocking the source material or if Adam Wingard is just doing whatever's funny to Adam Wingard.
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Death Note the movie isn't really good, but it's really enjoyable for William deFoe and Mia. I really never got the Death Note Hype. but yeah, Starship Troopers is a very good condemnation of the glorification of jackboot thuggery, too bad initial audiences didn't get it.
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Death note the anime is very explicitly about Light being wrong, the manga moreso
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Death Note is the kind of movie one would watch on an airplane. It's not particularly good, but I guess there's worse ways to kill a couple hours.
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The biggest problem I had with the movie was that the most interesting thing about the manga/anime was seeing the insane schemes Light would come up with to foil the police and keep L off his scent, and that only sort of happens once. It was otherwise a run-of-the-mill "dorky teen gets superpowers" film that tries to portray him as a troubled youth with the right idea instead of the complete psychopath he's supposed to be.
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Raserys posted:Death note the anime is very explicitly about Light being wrong, the manga moreso I really, really enjoy the brutality and indignity of the manga's ending and wish the anime hadn't tried to pretty it up. Light's whole mindset was "I am superior, I am Providence, I am God." and the ugliness of the ending was such a perfect, equal response of "No, you aren't." Haven't watched the Netflix one yet.
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CeallaSo posted:The biggest problem I had with the movie was that the most interesting thing about the manga/anime was seeing the insane schemes Light would come up with to foil the police and keep L off his scent, and that only sort of happens once. It was otherwise a run-of-the-mill "dorky teen gets superpowers" film that tries to portray him as a troubled youth with the right idea instead of the complete psychopath he's supposed to be. Yeah, Death Note is unique in that the protagonist is also kind of explicitly the villain of the series, which is diluted quite a bit in the American version (and on that subject, are the Japanese live action films any better?).
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From what I hear, some of the movies are just really, really dumb and inflates Light's ability to plan his kills to the level of "The plot tailors itself to me." And yeah, there's a huge amount of the fandom that scarily don't get that Light is a loving psycho.
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Buncha Misas.
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Don't remind me of her, please.
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Misa and every single new character after the first half were either really bad, or pale imitations of other characters.
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And the plot gets insanely more convoluted in the second half, especially with regards to the final schemes.
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