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Acebuckeye13 posted:He's also the Congressman who had a Confederate flag on his desk when tens of thousands of Iowans fought and died for the Union.
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KickerOfMice posted:They were not his parishoners. They were flooded out by the hurricane, and his church had to be publically shamed into opening its doors to them. Well, get real. You can't have a church service without collecting money. It's in the contract. snark Looks like they did their best to have a service for the folks the only way they know how. Yeah, I know the whole story of them being slow to open their doors, but give them credit for what they are doing. I don't respect the guy much, but he's doing his thing as best he can. Unless I hear actual complaints from the people staying there I'm not going to be especially critical of reports of what he does. I'll let the people going through it judge the appropriateness about it all and they can tell us later. I'd better not say any more because an Ambien has kicked in as I've been writing this and I'm starting to have trouble being coherent. So I apologise in advance for any weirdness in it and will pick this up some other time.
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Majorian posted:
I think a big part of how you dodged the problem was that you could humanize women for having to interact with them. A lot of young boys see women as mysterious and scary rather than, you know, as human beings. So sure, you didn't have game as you say, but I imagine you had enough social skills not to be a creep. The age old, "Ew, gross" or "gently caress off, creep" is well known to young men not only with no game, but with terrible social skills, or are even actively being creeps. These sorts of men used to not really be able to talk to and commiserate and form communities together beyond the strictly physical where there'd be that group of two or three creepy dudes. Now you have entire forums of creepy dudes who are welcoming men who aren't creepy, but have no game, and convince young men that the problem isn't with them. Instead it's that women are evil, castrating harpies and that you need the red pill and that you need to neg on women because that's what gets them to bounce on your dick. The fact that it sometimes works and that the PUA community preys on women with terrible self esteem and revels in it is disgusting. In the end there's no real chance of forming a stable, loving relationship when you're emotionally abusing someone, but you've had sex with the method and it works on certain people. So whenever someone is deep into the PUA community and is out about it, I see someone who is a sexual predator, and wonder if they're self aware or not that they are a sexual predator. It's okay to have no game. Even the guys with the most game in the world can still not interest every woman in the world. Work on yourself: Hit the gym, educate yourself, practice personal hygiene, learn how to dress yourself, hold down a stable job, develop hobbies outside of watching TV, have passions, work on your sense of humor. All of that and more. Even the most handsome, well dressed, intelligent, charming man on the planet will still turn off some women. If I could get a message to all young men out there it'd be, "Women have tastes and sometimes that doesn't include you. Luckily there are tons of them out there, and more will be interested if you're awesome. Work on being awesome, and being awesome can be taken a single step at a time, and in turn you're more likely to attract an awesome person that you're attracted to." quote:I honestly wonder how similar the pulls of MRA and Alt-right in the west are to the things that draw people to ISIS and similar things in Muslim communities? It would probably be a very interesting sociological study. I guess ISIS would probably draw the same kind of people who in the US get drawn into all of those weird militias. I've heard Pester Jane say a few times and I agree that in the next decade or so you're going to see a number of white domestic terrorists with ties back to places like R/The_Donald. They really live in their own world and it's a world primarily constructed from hate and dehumanization and lies and the language of violence. It's all the same pool after all; disaffected young men. People gravitate towards groups and ideologies that empower them and there are a certain section of Americans, mostly young and white, who feel empowered by belonging to the alt-right. I think sports is something overlooked though. Team sports especially. In these situations you work with people who you value not for the color of their skin, but their athletic prowess and how they function as a team. I never cared who passed me the rock or who I passed the rock to so long as something was done with it. I have thoughts on it, but I think it's better explained by one of my favorite philosophers. Albert Camus posted:Lots of people have written to the Albert Camus Society regarding Camus and his thoughts on football. Here is a copy of an email on the subject we sent out to a recent enquirer. Don't discount sports. Team sports are great. Positive role models are great. Anyone or anything who builds you up as a better person than you once were or keeps you from being torn down by unworthy forces is positive, no matter how big or small. highme posted:I spent most of yesterday afternoon high while playing PUBG (poorly), while my wife looked at me sideways a couple of times over the top of her phone where she was playing some mobile block breaker game. Gaming hasn't been a sub-culture for a long rear end time. Not shockingly, gamergaters etc., are just a different strain of regressive rear end white dudes clinging to a past where they had the illusion of control. Oh sure. Gaming exists, but it's so ubiquitous now that it's no longer a subculture. It's just culture. It would be like calling people who watch movies or eat out a subculture. It's too big and too wide and too varied and loses all meaning if you really look at it. What you'll find if you look at gamers as a "subculture" are tons of little subcultures. There are your shooter bros who are super into whatever new shooter is out. There are mobile gamers who are really into wasting time on their smart phones in what's essentially a skinner box. There are performative gamers, like those mad bastards who play Dark Souls with the Donkey Kong Bongos or play Mario 64 with nothing but their feet. There are gamers who do nothing but do let's plays or streams and are about personality and performance and there are those who watch them. There are speed runners who play the same game for dozens of hours a day to achieve mastery by exploiting game mechanics or even breaking the game. Console or Computer or Mobile, they're all gamers, and so the term loses meaning. In the end the people who claim the title tend to be as always, the loudest and most obnoxious people as they get the most attention. I think that the term is going to fall out of favor because it's no longer descriptive beyond, "I like to play games" or it associates you with lovely young MRA guys who also play games.
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Also I was a theater geek in highschool, so even though I didn't have any game whatsoever at the time, I at least had a lot of female friends and tended to view them as, you know. Human beings, as opposed to evil harpies conspiring against me or whatever MRAs think.
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achillesforever6 posted:He's the very worst kind of Catholic that doesn't rape children, I hope his eternal damnation, though saying that has now made me a worse Catholic since we aren't supposed to go around saying that such and such is going to hell. I like to think the Good Lord makes exceptions for special cases like King. I also wouldn't be surprised if King's secretly a pedophile, because he's the worst on all other levels.
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Stairmaster posted:but if it just means only neoliberals can get into office we're hosed as a civilization. Get up off your glorious rear end, use those heavenly quads, and primary that loving neolib. 500 neolib presidents won't do a fraction of what one Republican will. Swallow your loving pride it's election day. I don't give a poo poo if you live in a +20% district. Make that sucker +20.0001%ish (+19.9999).
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The sense of dread among my DACA friends for tomorrow's announcement is crushing. Jeff Sessions delivering it does not bode well at all. Some families are making preparations like transferring their money over to their citizen friends for things like bail/legal defense, and packing essentials if they need to get out in a hurry. Hard to know how appropriate that is without knowing the details of the announcement, but tomorrow is going to be an awful day regardless. Phoenix is having a gathering for the relevant community to watch it live at 8am tomorrow.
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Majorian posted:Yeah, I knew this at one point, but it just flat-out slipped my mind. She has to answer for this, if she wants to be considered an honest-to-goodness progressive. She already has people like Joy Reid defending her from criticism (and spewing transphobia of their own) from Chelsea Manning and others trying to call her out on it. The Glumslinger posted:Go run for office to be in position to primary her. I'd love to run for something, really, but I don't know how well "unemployed, socialist weirdo wants to be your next senator/council member/anything" would go over, as poetic as it would be for a trans person to replace her after her transphobia. If nothing else, she'll likely have some challengers, though. Hopefully, at least.
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LegendaryFrog posted:The sense of dread among my DACA friends for tomorrow's announcement is crushing. Jeff Sessions delivering it does not bode well at all. Some families are making preparations like transferring their money over to their citizen friends for things like bail/legal defense, and packing essentials if they need to get out in a hurry. Hard to know how appropriate that is without knowing the details of the announcement, but tomorrow is going to be an awful day regardless. The grossest thing to me is that supposedly Sessions, who was almost on his way out with Trump maybe a month ago, is back in his good graces over this DACA thing, supposedly.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Oh my god, I love him. This guy is amazing. He was a Rhodes scholar who got appointed to rebuild Detroit's public health department after the emergency manager and bankruptcy dismantled it. By all accounts he did a great job and some of the policies he implemented are in use nationally now. Logistically he managed to tap into a LOT of the Bernie volunteers who have been looking for a new solid longshot candidate to get behind. He's incredibly compelling and charismatic in person, and has raised over $1 million in the last financial quarter solely from individual contributions. It helps that despite there technically being 6 people in the dem primary so far, 2 are joke candidates with no chance of actually getting on the ballot, 2 are millionaire ceos posing as progressives who will only stay in the race because they can self finance long past when they should drop out, and the actual leading candidate has managed to run a really lackluster and kinda lousy campaign. She is still the favorite due to being the previous state Senate head, and has a lot of money coming in from corporate aligned pacs and other groups. Sayeds people freely admit they expect her to outraise him 2x1 once things get going.
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Deteriorata posted:Well, get real. You can't have a church service without collecting money. It's in the contract. snark I'll have to respectfully disagree with you because in my opinion Osteen is a contemptible human monster. No weirdness - sleep well! 
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Mustached Demon posted:500 neolib presidents won't do a fraction of what one Republican will. I'm not sure Bill Clinton's record as President supports this broad claim... Roland Jones posted:She already has people like Joy Reid defending her from criticism (and spewing transphobia of their own) from Chelsea Manning and others trying to call her out on it. Yeah, Reid has really turned out to be a horrendous disappointment, IMO. She's a very smart person who has given insightful commentary in the past, but holy poo poo, did 2016 break her brain...
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FlamingLiberal posted:The fact that it's Sessions doing it should be concerning to anyone. The fact that he is also not taking questions afterwards should make it clear that it's going to be awful. Oh yeah, that this is what got Sessions back into Trump's inner circle is so gross. I mean, it shouldn't be surprising, but that Trump is getting over his lack of "loyalty" from Sessions because of their shared racism is just... This is beyond parody. These people are all pure evil.
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Majorian posted:I'm not sure Bill Clinton's record as President supports this broad claim... Are you loving not paying attention to DACA chat? That's exactly why every so often I go on this rant.
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Mustached Demon posted:Get up off your glorious rear end, use those heavenly quads, and primary that loving neolib. Yeah. If you're waiting for the perfect candidate to come along, you're going to be waiting for a long time. Obama came out of nowhere and was and continues to be a total aberration in US politics. The odds are long that you're going to get another Obama level candidate or better. Better to get involved in your local politics and push the needle in your chosen direction with your own sweat and blood. It's thankless and it sucks and you may never see traction, but it can work. Incrementalism isn't sexy, but it can happen. No gays in the military became Don't Ask Don't Tell became full integration, but has backslid on trans people because republicans are in charge.
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mrfreeze posted:He was a Rhodes scholar who got appointed to rebuild Detroit's public health department after the emergency manager and bankruptcy dismantled it. By all accounts he did a great job and some of the policies he implemented are in use nationally now. blow him up on DKos.
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Isn't part of the problem that the Dems have been singularly focused on the Presidency above local government politics? We spent a decade under Obama assuming a new Democratic majority while the GOP was slowly taking over state politics.
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Mustached Demon posted:Are you loving not paying attention to DACA chat? Oh, I get that Republicans now are so unbelievably insane that there probably aren't going to be too many Democrats who could match their craziness even if they tried. But claiming that "500 neolib presidents won't do a fraction of what one Republican will" isn't an argument that holds as much water as it once did, I'm sorry to tell you.
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Isn't trans people transitioning in prison an incredibly niche issue to be worried about in an age where Republican control of the government may possibly doom civilzation as we know it? Commenting on Harris here.
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We need negation of negation. We have a justice department that tomorrow will be outlining how it's going to carry out a systemic injustice. We have Christians who when confronted with the ever present question of: Am I my brothers keeper? In the context of a nearly biblical flood. They answer with closed doors. Our time seems to be one where nearly all our institutions are being used to undermine what they stand for, to do the opposite what they ought to do in the world. We don't need new words in response to this emptying of meaning of the symbols of our society. We need the actual concrete realities that our words point to. The case needs to be made for those concrete universals instead if the corrupted, bastardized, legalized abstracts that are used to gently caress people over. I'll have one spicy chicken, one double with cheese, one Jr deluxe, and a frosty.
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Roland Jones posted:Oh yeah, that this is what got Sessions back into Trump's inner circle is so gross. I mean, it shouldn't be surprising, but that Trump is getting over his lack of "loyalty" from Sessions because of their shared racism is just... This is beyond parody. These people are all pure evil. A man like Sessions doesn't forget though. He'll stick the metaphorical knife into Trump's back at the most oppurtune moment.
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gohmak posted:blow him up on DKos. No dude, we want him to win, not waste millions in donor bux.
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Arglebargle III posted:Isn't trans people transitioning in prison an incredibly niche issue to be worried about in an age where Republican control of the government may possibly doom civilzation as we know it? I'd imagine if you were a trans person you wouldn't feel that way, but I am not transgender. I would be lying if I said it didn't bother me though. However I don't know all the facts and would like some sources on it.
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Majorian posted:Oh, I get that Republicans now are so unbelievably insane that there probably aren't going to be too many Democrats who could match their craziness even if they tried. But claiming that "500 neolib presidents won't do a fraction of what one Republican will" isn't an argument that holds as much water as it once did, I'm sorry to tell you. Bwaaaaaaaaaah?
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Koalas March posted:I'd imagine if you were a trans person you wouldn't feel that way, but I am not transgender. A trans person who was also in prison and currently transitioning? This is a really narrow group.
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Arglebargle III posted:Isn't trans people transitioning in prison an incredibly niche issue to be worried about in an age where Republican control of the government may possibly doom civilzation as we know it? Is it that difficult to get a Dem that's not a transphobe?
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Arglebargle III posted:Isn't trans people transitioning in prison an incredibly niche issue to be worried about in an age where Republican control of the government may possibly doom civilzation as we know it? Well, but it's symptomatic of a broader problem. What is she going to compromise on? Where does she draw the line on whether or not a minority group's rights deserve to be protected? These are things that are good to know about a potential candidate for president. Mustached Demon posted:Bwaaaaaaaaaah? One neoliberal president did a lot of bad poo poo that Republicans then (and now) would happily have done, is my point.
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shrike82 posted:Isn't part of the problem that the Dems have been singularly focused on the Presidency above local government politics? Yes this anger and wave of unexperienced young people running for office is how that will hopefully resolve it. Get organized and start building up political resumes
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Koalas March posted:I'd imagine if you were a trans person you wouldn't feel that way, but I am not transgender. Whenever I hear the words, "Trans people" used by a politician I sigh inwardly. It's not really about this is that issue, this or that problem, but endlessly kicking around a political football to score cheap votes and generate political will. The problem is that the football is a group of people and they're actively getting kicked around because they're the latest group of others who we as a nation are othering. Whenever I hear, "What do you think about the bathroom bill" I instead imagine, "Hey, these freaky rear end trans people might be touching your kids RIGHT NOW." Because twenty years ago it was gay people. Fifty years ago it was black people. Before that it was the Irish and Mormons and Catholics. On and on. Edit: Really marking when they stopped being kicked around (as much). These people still get kicked around. They're just not the current football (as much). Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Isn't trans people transitioning in prison an incredibly niche issue to be worried about in an age where Republican control of the government may possibly doom civilzation as we know it? Then so is trans people transitioning in the military...? The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Majorian posted:Well, but it's symptomatic of a broader problem. So the response to: "let's have a sense of perspective about this," is "No." ??? Gentle reminder that global climate departure is within 30 years.
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Majorian posted:
Cool. Now get up off your rear end and do something good for the DNC.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Whenever I hear the words, "Trans people" used by a politician I sigh inwardly. It's not really about this is that issue, this or that problem, but endlessly kicking around a political football to score cheap votes and generate political will. The problem is that the football is a group of people and they're actively getting kicked around because they're the latest group of others who we as a nation are othering. Yup, and they're also a group that puts up with so much poo poo as it is. So many of them are subject to horrific violence, poverty, homelessness, etc, because the country is already ridiculously transphobic. They don't need more poo poo piled on top of them. (especially since most trans people I've met are the nicest loving people, seriously what the gently caress America)
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Mustached Demon posted:Cool. Why would I do something good for the DNC? I don't see much point in working with the DNC right now. They're completely rudderless and don't seem all that interested in, you know, getting a rudder. I already do plenty to help my local and state Democratic Party. e: \/\/\/now we're talking\/\/\/ Majorian fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Isn't trans people transitioning in prison an incredibly niche issue to be worried about in an age where Republican control of the government may possibly doom civilzation as we know it? Well since I'm trans I kind of need to know that she isn't going to turn a blind eye towards trans people. And I kind of hate her for what she did. So gently caress her, unless she's literally the only candidate on the Dems side she's on my hatelist.
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Majorian posted:Yup, and they're also a group that puts up with so much poo poo as it is. So many of them are subject to horrific violence, poverty, homelessness, etc, because the country is already ridiculously transphobic. They don't need more poo poo piled on top of them. (especially since most trans people I've met are the nicest loving people, seriously what the gently caress America) The suicide rates for trans people are a loving atrocity 
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achillesforever6 posted:He's the very worst kind of Catholic that doesn't rape children, I hope his eternal damnation, though saying that has now made me a worse Catholic since we aren't supposed to go around saying that such and such is going to hell. Buddy, that's where heretics like me come in. Steve King is going to hell.
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Calibanibal posted:yeah before the internet incels used to just be loners who murdered the homeless and turned them into skin lamps, now they're all posting on reddit Will once the feminazis and the sjws stopped Girls Gone Wild and Faces of Death and Bum Bumfights what's a middle upper class white boy to do with his free time?
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