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I've played on Famfrit for like roughly 3 months now and have not come across a mean person like at all. Maybe it is partially because I am not doing super end game content yet but if someone dies stupidly in a dungeon or something it is always a bunch of 'Whoops sorry guys!' and a bunch of 'don't worry about it  ' replies. For me the players have been almost bizarrely friendly, especially coming from the polar opposite in games like Dota/CS/Overwatch.
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ImpAtom posted:I genuinely and wholeheartedly feel like goons play an entirely different game from me to be honest. Like the FFXIV I hear discussed here is a hellhole of angry DPS-counters who are giant assholes to each other and get into screaming matches and have huge disaster runs with honest healers and ice-only black mages or whatever and then I actually play the game and it's a genuinely chill and relaxed group of people where the most significant difference outside of savage content is a relatively short time different and most people are friendly and helpful. I suspect it's more that one person in the entire thread has had a negative experience recently and posts about it. Then everybody else chimes in about the handful of negative experiences they've had over the past few years.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:52
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The only mean guy I've run into in the last month or so was a healer that got super worked up about the main scenario roulette run taking longer than half a minute. Probably a quarter of the group was doing it for the first time (inc. my first time through as DRK) but that doesn't stop him from being an rear end in a top hat about it in party chat. We finished the run just fine if maybe a few minutes longer than average and he peed on party chat one more time before departing. That's my mean people in Final Fantasy XIV story thank you
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Sep 5, 2017 20:55
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Shere posted:Were they afk, offline, or harassing you? "playstyle differences," whatever the gently caress that means, have been a legitimate reason to kick since time immemorial. i don't know if you genuinely didn't know that or you're trying to score some cheap points, but that's the way it goes. ImpAtom posted:It's just so weird to me what a huge gap there is between discussions here and what I actually see in play. v nobody comes into this thread to post about the 20 perfectly pleasant and reasonable EXDRs they just did; all we ever hear about is the one that went south
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Sep 5, 2017 20:55
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Honestly I get way more skeevy rpers than hateful people and that's probably worse cause I can't just imagine what would happen to a person's brain to make them start a dungeon by typing 'please don't step on my sexy kitty tail' or whatever.
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Saint Freak posted:Honestly I get way more skeevy rpers than hateful people and that's probably worse cause I can't just imagine what would happen to a person's brain to make them start a dungeon by typing 'please don't step on my sexy kitty tail' or whatever. Well maybe you shouldn't have stepped on their sexy kitty tail then? Reiterpallasch posted:nobody comes into this thread to post about the 20 perfectly pleasant and reasonable EXDRs they just did; all we ever hear about is the one that went south Yeah but it feels like people treat the one that went south as a terrifying norm, or maybe it's just me.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:57
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Saint Freak posted:Honestly I get way more skeevy rpers than hateful people and that's probably worse cause I can't just imagine what would happen to a person's brain to make them start a dungeon by typing 'please don't step on my sexy kitty tail' or whatever. I have never once seen anyone make a sexual comment in an instance on primal data center. I assume you're on Aether and Balmung is ruining everything.
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Shere posted:Were they afk, offline, or harassing you? The devs have repeatedly said that "play style differences" are a perfectly valid reason to boot someone. It's not like it's the end of the world if you get kicked anyway. Just lol and requeue.
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Fister Roboto posted:The devs have repeatedly said that "play style differences" are a perfectly valid reason to boot someone. It's actually pretty lovely to force a DPS back into a half-hour queue because they didn't goad you, especially if it's something doing a dungeon for story or whatever. cheetah7071 posted:I have never once seen anyone make a sexual comment in an instance on primal data center. I assume you're on Aether and Balmung is ruining everything. I played on Balmung when I started and never saw it. I'm on the same data center still and still never see it. I mean there are a dozen catgirls in sushi gear at any given time but I assume that's every server.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:59
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cheetah7071 posted:I have never once seen anyone make a sexual comment in an instance on primal data center. I assume you're on Aether and Balmung is ruining everything. Primal Excal
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Saint Freak posted:Primal Excal then I got nothing, I'm sorry the catgirls display their fetishes for you
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ImpAtom posted:It's actually pretty lovely to force a DPS back into a half-hour queue because they didn't goad you, especially if it's something doing a dungeon for story or whatever. Well fortunately for non-idiots, not goading someone is a very easily solvable problem.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:05
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Fister Roboto posted:The devs have repeatedly said that "play style differences" are a perfectly valid reason to boot someone. Shere posted:You do you, but don't act like you're not the socially maladjusted pubbie in this scenario.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:05
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cheetah7071 posted:I have never once seen anyone make a sexual comment in an instance on primal data center. I assume you're on Aether and Balmung is ruining everything. This is true. I mostly see it in the middle of the city. 
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Sep 5, 2017 21:06
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like the worst exdr i've had in months was last week, when a drk pulled wall-to-wall in doma and didn't hit any cooldowns. it was fine. we died once because i was totally dry on mana or cooldowns. maybe i could have done a better job of holding those resources once i realized what the tank was doing. idk. i didn't come here to post a full sob story afterwards.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:06
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My mean people story involves being a PLD trying to light farm A1S back when that was a thing. Where I'd regularly be kicked parties would dissolve because I was a PLD and making everyone else's runs take 15-30 seconds longer. Side note: 5-6 tank 1-2 heal 1-2 dps A1S was pretty fun. ImpAtom posted:It's just so weird to me what a huge gap there is between discussions here and what I actually see in play. v HYPERBOLE, the Goon standard.
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Vitamean posted:This is true. I mostly see it in the middle of the city. More like Ala Mhigan tops.
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Most of my DF experiences are perfectly adequate, yeah. Occasionally I get a dingus or two, but at most I chat in FC for a minute and eat a DF cooldown. I only post here about the funny, exceptional cases. Overall I really like FFXIV and most players I run into are okay, or at least tolerable enough for a quick dungeon run.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:07
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Vitamean posted:This is true. I mostly see it in the middle of the city. I'm guessing Minos Khan wasn't even someone they knew and this was 100% bannable harassment Though I've learned the hard way that you can't report for someone harassing someone else; you can only report for them harassing you. You might be able to stretch it with "it wasn't directed at me but it still made me highly uncomfortable" but I didn't think to try that and I have only seen harassment once in my entire time playing
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Sep 5, 2017 21:09
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Fister Roboto posted:Well fortunately for non-idiots, not goading someone is a very easily solvable problem. You realize you sound like an infant, right, like at best this is low effort trolling
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Sep 5, 2017 21:10
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I mean it always seemed pretty clear to me that people's posting personas tend to be different from how they act in person/in game/wherever. most angry people I see here usually cool and chill in game. Even belzac who's threadshitting was legendary was a pretty chill guy to play with back when he played. Likewise I don't see fister or anybody standing in the middle of the goblet yelling at passerby. Everybody is usually pretty cordial, granted there are some dunces in fc chat from time to time but that's what kitty jail is for V V
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My experience has been nothing but friendly players since I resubbed. Probably the worst I've gotten was moans and groans in party chat when I did Final Steps of Faith and Royal Menagerie. Sorry guys, gotta get this poo poo done sometime. You're welcome for the bonus tomes, by the way.  Oh, and there's always enough salt in /shout to fill up another instance of the Lochs whenever an S-rank gets pulled. But that's just funny, so keep it coming.
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Velthice posted:Likewise I don't see fister or anybody standing in the middle of the goblet yelling at passerby. That's because I usually do that in Lavender Beds. For the record I would not boot someone at five minutes for not goading me, even if they completely ignored me. I know I sound like a huge rear end in a top hat ITT but you'd have to be egregiously bad for me to initiate a votekick. At the same time I have zero sympathy for the person who did get booted, because they could have easily solved the problem by hanging back for a few seconds and slotting goad.
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DizzyBum posted:My experience has been nothing but friendly players since I resubbed. Oh yeah, there's always a groan for either of the Steps or the Menagerie. Which is odd, I love the Menagerie, I'd queue for it every time if I could. Better than frigging Ramuh for the 20th time.
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ImpAtom posted:Oh yeah, there's always a groan for either of the Steps or the Menagerie. I've gotten Ramuh once since resubbing. It was so long since the last time I fought him, I forgot about the damage reflection. Oops.  I think I've seen Susano in trials the most since Stormblood dropped. Other than that, it's honestly been pretty balanced for me.
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Say what you want about the whm quests, but I really liked some of the camera tricks they used in the final quest (the fight was pretty cool too)
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WHM job quests are always great because you can snap a benediction on the quest NPC and get like a seven-digit green number or something
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ImpAtom posted:Oh yeah, there's always a groan for either of the Steps or the Menagerie. Menagerie just seems like...a lot to expect people that have maybe only ever done the MSQ and just want to finish the MSQ to pick up. Like those people have seen one of the mechanics before? Chains from the vault? I guess you see ice floors in ARF but not in a way that will kill you dead, and attacks called ahk morn but not quite like this one.
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ImpAtom posted:I genuinely and wholeheartedly feel like goons play an entirely different game from me to be honest. Like the FFXIV I hear discussed here is a hellhole of angry DPS-counters who are giant assholes to each other and get into screaming matches and have huge disaster runs with honest healers and ice-only black mages or whatever and then I actually play the game and it's a genuinely chill and relaxed group of people where the most significant difference outside of savage content is a relatively short time different and most people are friendly and helpful. Just like the news these days the only poo poo that gets posted is bad poo poo. All the good/boring poo poo that happens a majority of time just doesn't get posted. I have done poo poo loads of exdr solo a lot of times or without a goon healer and I have only once been yelled at to go tank stance on a boss. This was back in ARR and their justification was it let the healer dps more. So it was like half wrong because at least the healer wanted to DPS.
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most of my PUG experiences are good but it's only the stand-outs that will get me worked up enough to post about.
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 Bonus since I'm in my screenshots folder: Here's a tank asking if tanks are supposed to get aggro on the enemies after we wiped to him not doing that  God lord imgur loving annihilates images Saint Freak fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Vitamean posted:This is true. I mostly see it in the middle of the city. raise macros just get weirder and weirder
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 I'm finally free, after 50 weeks of Wondrous Tails.
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Holyshoot posted:just lol if you dont zone into your daily exdr say hi, pull, kill poo poo, zone out. I am noticing a lot more healers dpsing which is nice. Even when I do giant pulls. And they don't give a poo poo if I go dps stance on bosses. I had a guy call me out for not using tank stances on bosses yesterday and I just told him to check his eyes I was totally in shield oath (I was not).
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Bolow posted:You know I played WoW for like 8 goddamn years, but I swear I've seen more goddamn puns and references in these quest names in the week I've played than I ever had in WoW. Here's the difference between WoW's jokes and FFXIV. XIV will name a quest Notorious B.I.G.G.S. WoW will make an NPC named Lank who wears a green tunic and hat.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:WoW will make an NPC named Harrison Jones who wears a whip and a hat and dedicate an entire zone and multiple instances to him
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Fister Roboto posted:Well fortunately for non-idiots, not goading someone is a very easily solvable problem. you don't pay my sub
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Although I guess it's not entirely fair to lay that entirely at WOW's feet because every Final Fantasy game in the last two decades has had characters named after Star Wars characters.
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