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HycoCam posted:Counter-point: The doggie is sitting in grass with no leash. Invisible fence? Not many people live in areas where you can free-range your dogs. Please explain? You can setup an invisible fence so your dog get's an electroshock if he steps over it or what? I am quite sure I am misunderstanding this. If I'm at a place where I can't let my dog roam free, I use a leash tied to something, with an elastic "last two feet" so he feels the leash getting heavier to pull when he reashes the end of his allowed range instead of beeing zapped. Mind you, I know people around here who also use shock collars with their dogs, I'm just not a big fan of them because everytime I see them in use, it's the same: the dog has no chance of predicting what is to come, while a leash getting harder and harder to pull....he understands that very soon. But I'm quite sure I completely miss your point at the moment, and I don't mean that in an angry tone. I'm rather new to dogs, since I actually have cats and only recently had to care about the dog of my parents due to their illness.
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My crazy uncle used to hook his Land Rover up to electric fences with jump cables when we went camping and sat laughing as he asked people to 'go grab my torch from the Land Rover' and they got zapped
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Daztek posted:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-29-star-citizen-would-be-the-worst-scam-in-the-world I actually loving called it. MedicineHut posted:Anyone that thinks CR may get away with releasing the game under "Early Access"?
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Eurogamer were waiting for the hurricane to hit Florida so Derek couldn't tweet about it.
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Latin Pheonix posted:Well, I was considering the possibility that CR is trying to sneak the S42 IP from under Coutts or somehow trying to separate the SC IP from F42 (good luck with that, given how they share assets, the universe, story, etc., see my effortpost). I took a quick glance at the loan agreement again and it says (paraphrased) that the Chargor (F42) will not assign or charge any of the rights that the Chargee (Coutts) is entitled to. Basically, it means that the IP that F42 have given as collateral can't be sold off because they're holding it in trust for Coutts. Close, but I still appreciated reading your views. What I meant was that he (CR) thinks he is some kind of idea generating wonderkind who thinks he has a Midas touch. Star Citizen is just one of his many ideas, and he just used this company to house other ideas he can take his "code" to and start developing, or think he can auction off to a bank. I'm not even certain what the SC IP actually is beyond: 1: The SC logo itself 2: The scammy behavior 3: Maybe the Hornet ship Everything else basically looks like background artwork for any of science fiction environments. You can immediately tell a Star Wars/Trek uniform or soldier for example. In SC it looks like vehicles stolen from Halo and marines also stolen from Halo, but you can't look at a guy and say "looks like Star Citizen!" Most of the characters we've seen look like something out of the 1940-1960s era. I don't think CR is going to try to steal anything from the SC IP, because he knows how hideously generic it is. People aren't invested in the theme of SC, they're invested in the dream of SC. That's why the IP itself is flexible and valueless. It's value is entirely dependent upon the guy making all the promises. If he sells off SC and says "Hey guys I'm now making Wing Citizen, like SC and Wing Commander only this time I totally learned my mistakes, and it'll be huge!" People will drop SC like a broken glass and flock to Wing Citizen, which is a totally new IP set in a generic WW2 in space system. Coutts bought poo poo, buying into it thinking the IP had this $150+ million value, without realizing it's the promises this guy made that people believe that give it any value at all. All I can hope is that Coutts didn't give them much for it. CR could lose the SC IP and keep on trucking with new generic sci fi space poo poo and nobody would care. Even from that twitter picture a bit ago from clothes concept art, it looked like anything from Renaissance to 1990's grunge. There's no theme, there's nothing that makes it unique.
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alphabettitouretti posted:Eurogamer were waiting for the hurricane to hit Florida so Derek couldn't tweet about it. Little did they know the hurricane was caused by derek's tweeting fingers creating a vortex
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peter gabriel posted:My crazy uncle used to hook his Land Rover up to electric fences with jump cables when we went camping and sat laughing as he asked people to 'go grab my torch from the Land Rover' and they got zapped Is this why you're so angry all the time
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Maw posted:Is this why you're so angry all the time One of the reasons yes. I cannot forgive nor forget
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peter gabriel posted:One of the reasons yes. BZZZZT
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Daztek posted:BZZZZT my ptsd
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Daztek posted:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-29-star-citizen-would-be-the-worst-scam-in-the-world The data CR has: its poo poo and broken and what is asked is impossible to do The schedule CR wrote: it's all due in two weeks So clearly nothing is wrong and it'll happen in 2 weeks because that's the deadline. If it doesn't, well those programmers are terrible and probably need to be fired and replaced with quality Chinese developers.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 18:37 |
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Colostomy Bag posted:And also the the poop mechanics. If Star Citizen has enough poop mechanics do you think they can fix that poo poo?
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Beet Wagon posted:Powers out, waters out, my tree exploded. But everyone's ok I'm glad you are all ok. I hope your road to recovery will be fast.
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AP posted:STEALING SOMEONE'S SHIP (ACTUAL THEFT) Hahahahahahahaha
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TheAgent posted:anime is good, visual novels are the future Looking forward to the Star Citizen: The Documentary: The Game as it will have more gameplay and fun and colorful characters than the game it's based on.
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tuo posted:Please explain? You can setup an invisible fence so your dog get's an electroshock if he steps over it or what? I am quite sure I am misunderstanding this. If I'm at a place where I can't let my dog roam free, I use a leash tied to something, with an elastic "last two feet" so he feels the leash getting heavier to pull when he reashes the end of his allowed range instead of beeing zapped. Mind you, I know people around here who also use shock collars with their dogs, I'm just not a big fan of them because everytime I see them in use, it's the same: the dog has no chance of predicting what is to come, while a leash getting harder and harder to pull....he understands that very soon. But I'm quite sure I completely miss your point at the moment, and I don't mean that in an angry tone. I'm rather new to dogs, since I actually have cats and only recently had to care about the dog of my parents due to their illness. https://www.invisiblefence.com/ You bury a wire around your property perimeter and place little white flags a bit inside the wire. It takes most dogs about 15 minutes to figure out what is up. As they get close to the wire, the collar beeps. As they get even closer a shock gets delivered that increases in intensity. Most dogs get zapped once or twice and figure out exactly what is up. My sister rescued an extremely protective great dane/pit bull mix. The dog is awesome, unless you are a male with a beard (and if you are smoking a cigarette--loving run!)--anyhow it only took a few times of her kids opening the door at the wrong time and him charging the UPS man before she got in trouble. The fence does any amazing job keeping him contained. But they don't work for all dogs. I had a border collie that was so fast, if he saw an animal on the other side he was through the fence in a heartbeat. Only to then get stuck on the outside. A golden was smart enough to sit right on the line and have the collar beep for 8+ hours until the $6 battery died and would then do whatever it wanted. If you live in area where your dog needs to be contained, the best fencing is a combination of a real fence and the invisible fence. With all that said, my dogs now live a pretty darn good life and have an electric collar that only controls a dog door--meaning they come and go when they like. Oh and pro-tip. If your dog gets out of the fence, you are going to need to take the collar off the dog to get him back inside. Be careful how you hold that collar when you cross the fence. e: who's a good boy! HycoCam fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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When Derek isnt around i dont know what to think about that article
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crisp roberts posted:When Derek isnt around i dont know what to think about that article Star Citizen is really good, keep thinking that while donation money!
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Daztek posted:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-29-star-citizen-would-be-the-worst-scam-in-the-world wow he wrote down what cribbers said
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TheGodofIris posted:Hahahahahahahaha Haha I can't wait til CIG figure out what they're actually doing with ship theft and locking and what happens to your ship when you log off and and and etc, there's no way it's not going to piss off the backers no matter what plans they reveal
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Xaerael posted:I'm amazed people havn't worked it out yet. Perhaps the new company will license out the list of TrueIdiot™ backers to other companies? The Titanic posted:So I've been playing the new mass effect game while I'm waiting for Star Citizen to save console gaming. It's an odd experience, to be sure. It just felt like Dragon Age: Inquisition in space to me, a giant open world collectathon dressed up in the worn-out clothes of the old series.
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Maw posted:Haha I can't wait til CIG figure out what they're actually doing with ship theft and locking and what happens to your ship when you log off and and and etc, there's no way it's not going to piss off the backers no matter what plans they reveal Theorycrafting is as far as that mechanic is ever going to make it--there will never be an locking of ships, Lifetime Insurance mechanics, or buying ships in game. Seven years in and there isn't cargo. Heck--there is zero in the way of game mechanics.
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Maw posted:Haha I can't wait til CIG figure out what they're actually doing with ship theft and locking and what happens to your ship when you log off and and and etc, there's no way it's not going to piss off the backers no matter what plans they reveal Same with every single gameplay mechanic. People will lose their minds at each and every one and I can't wait
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Daztek posted:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-29-star-citizen-would-be-the-worst-scam-in-the-world I love his incessant need to have to defend himself from the haters, and in the process steps in his own poo poo and smears it everywhere. Time's almost up, but you called me out on my bullshit so I'm going to have a mini meltdown over it.
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Daztek posted:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-29-star-citizen-would-be-the-worst-scam-in-the-world Crobblers posted:Most of our stuff is related to the ships you have, and dollar to the actual in-game cost, the money cost is significantly less than the in-game cost. If it ever came out this game would be an endless grind or a gold farmers dream
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i thought if someone zaps you that's an invitation to kick em in the balls
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Daztek posted:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-29-star-citizen-would-be-the-worst-scam-in-the-world
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Quavers posted:
This is pretty normal with CMS pages. You start an article, work on it, have it edited. Then when ready you publish it.
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Maw posted:
Run one half hour mission & get enough credits to buy 12 shoulder-mounted railguns capable of one-shotting a ship, or instead run the mission ten times & buy the one-shottable ship yourself!
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Thoatse posted:If Star Citizen has enough poop mechanics do you think they can fix that poo poo? Yeah, if they refactor the pipelines.
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has anyone said pooplines yet?
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big nipples big life posted:that thing looks so retarded I bet it owns a javelin lol my depression is cured tuxedomarx posted:do yall actually talk about anything in here because it's been like ten pages of white noise since i got quote tweeted Refer to the text underneath my avatar Ghostlight posted:posting is not a perk Shitposting guarantees shitizenship is worthless Truga posted:anime is the best That's not how you should hold a burger 2/5 All this new stuff coming out is amazing, good job everyone.
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TheAgent posted:anime is good, visual novels are the future Thread is good, holy poo poo.
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Erenthal posted:has anyone said pooplines yet? I think if you look at my July Blog I clearly said it. my_july_blog
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peter gabriel posted:One of the reasons yes. Sorry you feel grief our titanium-skulled commando.
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I DONT KNOW WHAT "SETTLES" MEAN IN A LEGAL SENSE BUT I'M SURE GOING TO USE A LOT OF WORDS TO DEMONSTRATE MY TOTAL IGNORANCE WHILE I SMEAR STAR CITIZEN POOP ALL OVER MY FACE
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The Titanic posted:Close, but I still appreciated reading your views. Oh yeah, if that's the case then yeah, I can't imagine there'd be any issue blocking him from using the CIG Rights company to house his new ideas, whether they're actually good ideas would be another matter entirely . That said, I'll put on my Coutts hat and try to see things from their perspective: The whole IP thing is basically Coutts making sure that either they get their money back or CIG cannot develop the game any further should they fail to pay back the loan. The IP itself might have no artistic or commercial value, but CIG need the IP to continue developing SC/F42. Coutts demanding the game's IP is essentially their way of making sure that CIG don't just default on their loan and keep on merrily developing SC/S42; if they default, they lose the ability to continue working on SC/S42, full-stop. CIG may be able to start up a new game but it would have to be completely new and separate from SC/S42. To briefly expand on your point about SC's IP; yes it's derivative and not really original (definitely no argument from me there!), but there's a ton of IP buried in it that CIG would need to continue development. As a simple example, each ship would have its own design/sound/literary rights attached to it, including coding as to how it behaves, so there's a bunch of unimaginative but nonetheless vital IP in the project that CIG would need to continue functioning. Even the list of backers would have a form of database right in the UK. So yeah, CR could just default on the loan, walk away and try to dream up some new IP completely unrelated to SC/S42, but they would not be able to use anything that they worked on for the past 5 years. It also would not be totally unexpected if they made a new, similar game (say 'Solar Commodore'), that whoever holds the IP would sue the crap out of them for breach of said rights if Solar Commodore has somewhat similar aspects to Star Citizen (even if they have no intention of developing Star Citizen). Also one last thing to highlight: one of the IP rights that CIG currently has (for now) is the literary copyright for all the code they've written; this includes stuff like 64-bit positioning, 'megamap' tech, any dynamic sound code they've written, planetary tech, physics nesting, etc, etc. So if CIG defaults on this loan and the literary copyright of the code goes to Coutts, none of the code would be usable by Crobberts and crew in the future without Coutts' (or whoever they sold it to's) say so.
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Harbinger73 posted:In light of the Eurogamer article I've revised my ELE theory. It goes as following ( version): If this is true I really hope authorities loving act before the money is out of reach.
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