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I have a few SD movies that were itunes codes included in dvds, I guess those will never get upgraded to HD/4K eh.
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OldSenileGuy posted:Soooo.....no Amazon Video app today? "Later this year," I'm really curious what the holdup is because small team could probably port their existing iPad app in like a week.
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Sep 12, 2017 22:47
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Amazon just announced a 4K box, so they probably want to remind people that they exist before people dart off and get the ATV5 instead.
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Sep 12, 2017 22:53
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If the 4K HDR rentals are the same price as the HD, I'm going to get a lot more use out of my TV. Just couldnt bring myself to pay $10+ to Vudu for a rental.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:00
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Apple TV - SIri, tell me what to watch... in 4k
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Sep 12, 2017 23:02
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So is 4k the only upgrade on the box? Don't have a 4k tv so I guess that's my decision on whether to upgrade right there.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:18
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Martytoof posted:So is 4k the only upgrade on the box? Don't have a 4k tv so I guess that's my decision on whether to upgrade right there. Way better processor, so I imagine we'll start seeing games that won't work on the Gen 4s. Personally, not an AppleTV gamer or a 4K TV haver, so I don't have a need for this myself.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:21
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Proteus Jones posted:Way better processor, so I imagine we'll start seeing games that won't work on the Gen 4s. If they follow the iPhone app store model, developers won't be able to filter by device, only by OS version so they'll be stuck supporting the original Apple TV 4 until it no longer receives OS Updates.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:40
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Proteus Jones posted:Way better processor, so I imagine we'll start seeing games that won't work on the Gen 4s. Ehh, I haven't gamed on this thing since probably day one so I'm Ok with that too. Mainly I use it for Netflix, YouTube, NHK World, Plex, and NHL/MLB. Upgrades I was hoping for were something like an always-on siri speaker to make it a homekit control center. Guess I'm waiting for longer :B
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Sep 12, 2017 23:42
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Martytoof posted:So is 4k the only upgrade on the box? Don't have a 4k tv so I guess that's my decision on whether to upgrade right there. 4K, HDR (both standards), faster processor in case you game on it for some reason. Did they make the remote better?
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Sep 12, 2017 23:44
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The remote looks the same. I don't have many movies purchased through iTunes, but it's cool they are getting free upgrades. If the pricing is right I could see myself renting more stuff through them.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:45
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Subjunctive posted:4K, HDR (both standards), faster processor in case you game on it for some reason. There's a white circle around the menu button. If it illuminates it's worth the price for that alone.  edit: and the lan port is now gigabit instead of 100mbps.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:47
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Can't wait to see their overpriced sports packages. Loved my last-gen. Wanted to buy 2 more to replace my lovely Fire TV sticks, but knew another one was coming out soon. I'll grab a 32GB on Thursday for sure. The kids can suffer with the Stick some more on their tv.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:50
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Can't wait to see their overpriced sports packages. I don't think they're selling any sports programming. The sports thing they showed off just hooks in with apps you have setup. Like if you have the MLB app going and mark the Yankees as your favorite, they'll show up on that main screen so you can jump right in and watch the game.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:53
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Martytoof posted:Upgrades I was hoping for were something like an always-on siri speaker to make it a homekit control center. I think they're trying to make the HomePod a thing for that.
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Proteus Jones posted:I think they're trying to make the HomePod a thing for that. Which is ironically what my dad wants. I got him a Amazon Echo and he was disappointed this wasn't a feature to go with his Apple TV
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Sep 13, 2017 00:32
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Proteus Jones posted:I think they're trying to make the HomePod a thing for that. Yeah, I guess so. I'm just so uninterested in homepod so I was holding out hope that ATV4k would do a thing 
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Sep 13, 2017 00:42
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trash person posted:Holy poo poo at the free 4K upgrade I own 200 or so movies on iTunes. Maybe this is obvious, but not every title you own will be available in 4K.
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Sep 13, 2017 00:43
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Cornjob posted:Maybe this is obvious, but not every title you own will be available in 4K. Yeah but even if only half, or hell even a quarter, get upgraded that’s way more than I expected and saves hundreds of dollars
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Sep 13, 2017 00:57
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Waiting to see what works with Plex before I buy, but looking fun so far. Probably still won't support the best audio codecs but hey.
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Sep 13, 2017 04:45
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As a non-AppleTV owner, who doesn't own a 4K TV (no plans to buy one) and who's eye-ing the refurb A-TV, is there any reason to get the new Apple TV? I don't think they're going to turn it into a new gaming platform with NOT-Journey, so I'm okay with a 32GB Previous-Gen ATV right? EDIT: Or, I own a PS4, is this a waste of money?
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Snuffman posted:As a non-AppleTV owner, who doesn't own a 4K TV (no plans to buy one) and who's eye-ing the refurb A-TV, is there any reason to get the new Apple TV? It's what I'm using currently on two TVs and it's fine. In fact of the devices I use (Shield TV, PS4 and Apple TV) for Playstation Vue, the Apple TV delivers as good if not superior video quality, and a far more responsive app in terms of lag with startup and channel changing. If only the UI were as good as the Shield TVs...
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Sep 13, 2017 07:14
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Has it been determined if the Amazon prime app will only be on the 4K version, or on tvOS 4? Not having a 4K television obviously I don't want to upgrade my AppleTV if I don't have to.
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Sep 13, 2017 07:18
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I would be surprised if it was limited to just the new one.
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Sep 13, 2017 07:20
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CaptainCrunch posted:Has it been determined if the Amazon prime app will only be on the 4K version, or on tvOS 4? I'd be surprised if that was the case. With iOS usually the version of the OS is the limiting factor, not the hardware (although some apps may run like dogs). I can't imagine a closely related fork, tvOS, would be different.
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Sep 13, 2017 07:23
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Will this one run the Sling app any better because it's garbage on every platform. (I know this is Sling's fault, I'm just venting)
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[quote="“CaptainCrunch”" post="“476349921”"] Has it been determined if the Amazon prime app will only be on the 4K version, or on tvOS 4? Not having a 4K television obviously I don’t want to upgrade my AppleTV if I don’t have to. [/quote] I would be surprised if that was the case, but it could happen. Remember when Apple announced that Apple Music would be coming to the Apple TV (before the 4th gen was announced) and then when it did it was only on the 4th gen. You could airplay to the 3rd, but c'mon.
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Sep 13, 2017 11:24
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Snuffman posted:As a non-AppleTV owner, who doesn't own a 4K TV (no plans to buy one) and who's eye-ing the refurb A-TV, is there any reason to get the new Apple TV? Do you buy a lot of poo poo through iTunes? If so, its a worthwhile purchase, if not I'd recommend either sticking with your PS4 or going a different route (Roku, ShieldTV).
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Sep 13, 2017 12:30
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The espn app has added a multicast feature that I’m not sure if it’s on other platforms yet. But the implementation is really good if you like following multiple sporting events at once.
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Sep 13, 2017 13:14
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:The espn app has added a multicast feature that I’m not sure if it’s on other platforms yet. But the implementation is really good if you like following multiple sporting events at once. That's good to hear. I'll have to test it out this weekend w/college football. PS Vue has multichannel also, but only on PS4. For some reason the feature hasn't trickled over to the Shield TV (AndroidTV) or AppleTV version of the client even though both could easily handle it. Out of all the stuff I have, the PS4 is the least satisfying platform when it comes to watching TV or streams.
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Sep 13, 2017 13:28
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:The espn app has added a multicast feature that I’m not sure if it’s on other platforms yet. But the implementation is really good if you like following multiple sporting events at once. Yeah it is super nice. The only problem is, the last two Saturdays it has been absolute poo poo as far as streaming quality. I thought it was just me but I checked twitter both weeks and people were experiencing the same poo poo. Buffering, pixelated, stuttering......awful. Hell, it was doing that during College Gameday! It's not even like it was a big primetime game that everyone was watching. Hopefully they get their poo poo together since the new app is very cool and I want to get as much college football shooting into my eyeballs at the same time as I can. (I've been known to bring the bedroom TV down, set up my iPad, and my wife's computer all next to the big TV so I can watch 4 games at once. It's an illness)
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Mahoning posted:Yeah it is super nice. The only problem is, the last two Saturdays it has been absolute poo poo as far as streaming quality. I thought it was just me but I checked twitter both weeks and people were experiencing the same poo poo. Buffering, pixelated, stuttering......awful. Hell, it was doing that during College Gameday! It's not even like it was a big primetime game that everyone was watching. Hopefully they get their poo poo together since the new app is very cool and I want to get as much college football shooting into my eyeballs at the same time as I can. (I've been known to bring the bedroom TV down, set up my iPad, and my wife's computer all next to the big TV so I can watch 4 games at once. It's an illness) You sound like me. This last weekend I had multichannel PS Vue running on my PS4 (and ESPN had issues there as well). FOX Sports on my iPad and Football Funhouse NCAA thread open on the laptop
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Sep 13, 2017 13:56
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Yeah the ESPN app rules for college football. Set up four games, and switch the audio between them or full-screen one when things are happening.
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Sep 13, 2017 13:59
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Proteus Jones posted:I'd be surprised if that was the case. I'd like to assume that... but you know. Sometimes I'm disappointed. Guess we'll find out on Tuesday.
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Sep 13, 2017 15:27
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So I missed the Apple TV part of the announcement. 4K and video games? Anything else? I use two of the 4th gen and they work fine, all I need them to do is Netflix, HBO, soon Amazon video, and airplay. No 4K TVs. So I can't think of any reason to upgrade either of them.
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Sep 13, 2017 15:29
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Good on espn for at least trying. ATV followed iOS in the sense that Apple built some awesome capabilities all accessible via APIs and get some awesome demos shown at a keynote (in this case MLB), and then nobody utilizes them for years and just does the bare minimum. There's still so many apps on the iPhone that haven't been flagged to scale to the sizes of phones for years. You can see the top bar grow in size when you load them, and you know it's 5 minutes work at most to sort it out.
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Sep 13, 2017 15:42
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TV tech moves slower than phone tech. This was the update that should have been out 2 years ago. Now Apple can go back to ignoring it for another 3 years and there's nothing new on the horizon right now to force them to update any faster.
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Sep 13, 2017 15:46
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Duckman2008 posted:So I missed the Apple TV part of the announcement. It's got a faster processor which is gonna lead to better gaming, but literally no one gives a poo poo about that. I imagine the processor might make the new one snappier (though I have no complaints about speed or responsiveness in the ATV4) and maybe faster responses from Siri.
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Sep 13, 2017 15:50
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They might update it with HLG or HDR10+ eventually once the standards catch on more, but, like someone else said, Apple's pace is rarely about being first to market. Variable refresh rate would be lovely in a few years, too, but that'll probably have to wait for at least HDMI 2.1. It's nice that they got Dolby Vision, even though it should be expected from anyone moderately competent.
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Did apple say when the free 4k movie upgrades would be available? I have a 4k tv and nothing to watch on it in 4k. Before I drop money on a new ATV it would be nice if one of the handful of movies I won is available in 4k.
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