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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

This gimmick kinda works for that. I guess the original series never used color within the actual stories? And $260 is probably cheaper than what the official books cost all together so there's that too.

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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Yeah, it seems pretty cool as a collector's item for fans of the series. It's just an omnibus that saves paper.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.
I think it's pretty cool, and is probably a pretty decent idea for a long-running series like that, but jesus christ $260 is the entry-level for getting a book in return, with a planned retail price of almost $350.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Or just make a digital version available for all e-book readers.
It's like an mp3 player that only plays music by one band.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Paladinus posted:

Or just make a digital version available for all e-book readers.
It's like an mp3 player that only plays music by one band.

Most people don't already have an ebook reader with 2 high-res screens for the spread look. Or one big higher-res screen that could show both pages at once at proper size, cuz that'd be bulky as hell to store. But keep in mind also that this is going to the kind of person who'd otherwise be dropping like $500 to buy the book volumes new, I guess.

Of course I'd never have interest in this because I don't particular like the one comic series they have to offer. But it looks like it's otherwise well made.

Jerry Seinfeld
Mar 30, 2009

Paladinus posted:

Or just make a digital version available for all e-book readers.
It's like an mp3 player that only plays music by one band.

Amechwarrior
Jan 29, 2007

The dual screen ereader does actually serve the media better. I did a quick search looking for dual screen ereaders and only found a small niche product from a few years ago. If anything, someone could kickstart a full featured emanga-reader with two screens and tons of options/tiers of horrible anime covers. I guess you could also take a larger tablet and put it in landscape, but then where would we get more content for the thread? I could see some kid basically duct-taping two chinese ereaders together and getting funded.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

SpacePig posted:

I think it's pretty cool, and is probably a pretty decent idea for a long-running series like that, but jesus christ $260 is the entry-level for getting a book in return, with a planned retail price of almost $350.

Which is more than double the cost of e-readers or tablets. I think the dual-screens gimmick is neat, but my Kindles do a great job with eBooks and comics with just their one screen.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
You can just read your punchan manga on a regular computer, too. That's an option.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002




Hello PYF have you heard of the WokMon?

https://www.crowdzu.com/funding/campaigns/19/wokmon/

https://www.wokmon.com/

Take a decent idea, over 20k in funding and completely gently caress it up by not getting anything done! 3 years later and nobody has one of these in their hands yet

facebook group where you can see updates about "look at boxes on a pallet which should be shipped soon" every 5 months!

https://www.facebook.com/thewokmon/


i'm not a backer of this but i check in every 3 months cause i thought it would be kinda neat to have one but it looks like DIY is the way to go since this guy is an idiot

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
For a moment I thought it was Kenji's invention because that's the kind of thing he'd be into, but then you'd expect that he'd get that poo poo made in three years.

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry
Should have named it the "cook ring"

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

mobby_6kl posted:

For a moment I thought it was Kenji's invention because that's the kind of thing he'd be into, but then you'd expect that he'd get that poo poo made in three years.

it's great cause he tested it for this guy, lending to his credibility but as of his most recent videos he's clearly not using it at home on his stove when using a wok.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Indiegogo has shut down the Frank phone campaign. That was the one which was trying to sell itself as a teenager who designed a smartphone but actually he was just buying them wholesale from Alibaba.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

muscles like this! posted:

Indiegogo has shut down the Frank phone campaign. That was the one which was trying to sell itself as a teenager who designed a smartphone but actually he was just buying them wholesale from Alibaba.

Haha, I went to look up an article to expand on this, and the first thing to come up was from The Verge:

quote:

Do I think the Frank campaign should have been taken down? I don't. These kids — one of them is a teenager — tried to sell a boring Android phone, and people got upset that it already exists in a Chinese factory. Indiegogo was probably just doing its own version of image control by taking the campaign down.

Plenty of sketchy crowdfunding schemes exist, and plenty of people have ended up backing a gadget that never shows up, but with a built-in manufacturer, Frank actually had a solid chance at pleasing backers. No one could afford to buy this phone in bulk on their own, and Frank served as a matchmaker for phone enthusiasts. That's harmless to me.

"A kid tried to resell Alibaba crap as his own, and get that bulk sale through Indiegogo funds. Who even cares?"

SpacePig has a new favorite as of 22:00 on Sep 19, 2017

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Yeah, that's where I got the news too but it is such a garbage article I didn't want to link it.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

It is sort of hard to say who the victim is there.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Subjunctive posted:

It is sort of hard to say who the victim is there.

Whoever went to The Verge.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
Kickstarter really doesn't like when you're just putting together funding to an order of an existing product from an unrelated company (although they have allowed things like, trying to restart an old production line or whatever), with rules specifically against it most of the time. I'm not sure whether Indiegogo specifically has rules against it too, but I suspect they do.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

fishmech posted:

Kickstarter really doesn't like when you're just putting together funding to an order of an existing product from an unrelated company (although they have allowed things like, trying to restart an old production line or whatever), with rules specifically against it most of the time. I'm not sure whether Indiegogo specifically has rules against it too, but I suspect they do.

Indiegogo is where you go if even Kickstarter doesn't take your product.

If Indiegogo somehow says no, you presumably go to Crowdzu, which I've never heard of before today.

Alternatively, you go to whatever spanish crowdfunding site allowed that 25th anniversary reprint of Heroquest after both Kickstarter and IGG shut it down (surprise, surprise, it's still vaporware years later).

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

gschmidl posted:

Indiegogo is where you go if even Kickstarter doesn't take your product.

If Indiegogo somehow says no, you presumably go to Crowdzu, which I've never heard of before today.

Alternatively, you go to whatever spanish crowdfunding site allowed that 25th anniversary reprint of Heroquest after both Kickstarter and IGG shut it down (surprise, surprise, it's still vaporware years later).

Don't forget Fundr or whatever that neo nazi crowd funding site is called.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Evil Fluffy posted:

Don't forget Fundr or whatever that neo nazi crowd funding site is called.
Not to be confused with the ISIS crowd funding site, Fundie.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

gschmidl posted:

Alternatively, you go to whatever spanish crowdfunding site allowed that 25th anniversary reprint of Heroquest after both Kickstarter and IGG shut it down (surprise, surprise, it's still vaporware years later).

Good thing I missed that, I totally would have backed it.

What's the story there? Does GamesWorkshop still retain the rights?

EDIT: I looked into it because I was curious and the story is so much stupider.

Kickstarter says he owns the rights to the name "HeroQuest" but only in Spain, also he's not really remaking HeroQuest but you can just ignore that point and throw money at them.

Its not Milton Bradley or Games Workshop that takes them down but some 3rd party that owns the rights to the name "Hero Quest" in the US (where the Kickstarter was run from because KS Spain doesn't exist) but in an entirely different context.

The whole thing was/is incredibly dumb. On all sides.

Snuffman has a new favorite as of 00:10 on Sep 20, 2017

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Evil Fluffy posted:

Don't forget Fundr or whatever that neo nazi crowd funding site is called.

Hatereon?

The General
Mar 4, 2007



This was a pretty cool product until I read it only takes AAA batteries, because

quote:

It is very simple to operate: No annoying set up is required such as connecting to a Wi-Fi network, signing up to download contents. In order to make eOneBook look like a real book, we stick to AAA batteries to get it work on. When connecting a cable to charge, you can't avoid feeling it like an electronic device. Moreover, using AAA batteries allows people of all ages who love manga to easily use eOneBook.

I can't count the number of times I've been unable to read my favourite books because their AAA batteries ran out.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1042731515/aire-a-self-flying-robotic-assistant-for-the-home

No. No thanks.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer
Here's a bit of an odd one I'm going to tear apart:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pimax8kvr/pimax-the-worlds-first-8k-vr-headset?ref=recommended

Alright, so the idea itself isn't bad, but there is a pretty big problem they kind of gloss over with this kickstarter: What kind of machine is required to push out 2x 4k displays worth of graphics at 90 hz? They quote a GTX 980/1070 or an Fiji XT card, but that's not going to cut it...Unless the games aren't running natively at that res, which kind of makes them liars. The horsepower required to push out that many pixels at that refresh rate is going to cost somewhere in the realm of $3,000 for just the computer. I'm imaging a couple Titan XPs in SLI might be able to do the job. Building out a display array that can deliver these kind of resolutions isn't the problem. Finding a computer to actually run this stuff is going to be the challenge.

Also, 4k x 2 isn't 8k. That's not how resolutions work.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer
And now for some proper bullshit:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/867177233/adore-worlds-smartest-ai-powered-smart-scale?ref=newest

A scale that you step on that can measure the following:

- Weight
- Body Water Content
- Body Fat %
- Bone Density

How can it know these things? Could two males at the height of 6' 1" that both have the same weight have different bone densities or body fat percentages? Is the fact that this 'fitness' video is pushing the '8 glasses of water' myth maybe concerning? Do questions like these ever cross the minds of it's 195 backers?

------

Maybe you want some pure bullshit in a can?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/twwalks/metta-natural-awareness-beverage?ref=newest

"Mettā is an all natural, caffeine and refined sugar-free energy drink substitute. It increases both mental and physical performance."

Bold claims sir, how do you know that?

"...We talked to Doctors, Naturopaths..."

I'm sure you did! Hey, maybe you could get a plug from a chiropractor, or maybe a Crystal Healing Specialist™ as well?

Canine Blues Arooo has a new favorite as of 03:56 on Sep 20, 2017

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

Here's a bit of an odd one I'm going to tear apart:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pimax8kvr/pimax-the-worlds-first-8k-vr-headset?ref=recommended

Alright, so the idea itself isn't bad, but there is a pretty big problem they kind of gloss over with this kickstarter: What kind of machine is required to push out 2x 4k displays worth of graphics at 90 hz? They quote a GTX 980/1070 or an Fiji XT card, but that's not going to cut it...Unless the games aren't running natively at that res, which kind of makes them liars. The horsepower required to push out that many pixels at that refresh rate is going to cost somewhere in the realm of $3,000 for just the computer. I'm imaging a couple Titan XPs in SLI might be able to do the job. Building out a display array that can deliver these kind of resolutions isn't the problem. Finding a computer to actually run this stuff is going to be the challenge.

Also, 4k x 2 isn't 8k. That's not how resolutions work.

It is how "k" works cuz that dumb poo poo standard is just the rough horizontal resolution, which can be any of a number of vertical resolutions.

People should stick to the old ways of listing the actual resolution of things in both directions but stuff like 4k lets you sell a 3840x2160 display and a 4096x2560 display, or games natively rendering at one or the other, like they're the same, so it's obvious why marketers love it. You can sell a panel or a render as if it's got nearly 25% more pixels than it really has, and some of those "ultrawide" monitors really abuse it. They'll give you like 3840 across but 1600 something high and brag how it's 21:9 ultra wide screen.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Lots of bathroom scales measure body composition, they use electrolytes! bioelectrical impedance or some poo poo.

Even the best ones aren't very accurate though. Might as well judge it by eye. Or even better, don't loving worry about it and just train to get stronk.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000


Why does this robot have upholstery?

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

And now for some proper bullshit:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/867177233/adore-worlds-smartest-ai-powered-smart-scale?ref=newest

A scale that you step on that can measure the following:

- Weight
- Body Water Content
- Body Fat %
- Bone Density

How can it know these things? Could two males at the height of 6' 1" that both have the same weight have different bone densities or body fat percentages? Is the fact that this 'fitness' video is pushing the '8 glasses of water' myth maybe concerning? Do questions like these ever cross the minds of it's 195 backers?

The body fat composition is in lots of consumer scales using electrical impedance. I don't know how body water and bone density is supposed to work though.

e: After googling it looks like there's been some testing about using electrical impedance to determine body water, but again I don't know how accurate that is really supposed to be. Still no clue on bone density, unless their going to try and just test everything else with impedance and then math out your bones.

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

BattleMaster posted:

Why does this robot have upholstery?

The video mentions the robot protecting the home several times. Where is this flying robot's gun?

"The possibilities are endless" - Nah, I think this thing can fly and take pictures. I think there are limited uses.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Garrand posted:

The body fat composition is in lots of consumer scales using electrical impedance. I don't know how body water and bone density is supposed to work though.

e: After googling it looks like there's been some testing about using electrical impedance to determine body water, but again I don't know how accurate that is really supposed to be. Still no clue on bone density, unless their going to try and just test everything else with impedance and then math out your bones.

The consensus among serious body builders and other people training for leanness is that they're not very accurate.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

Jolo posted:

The video mentions the robot protecting the home several times. Where is this flying robot's gun?

"The possibilities are endless" - Nah, I think this thing can fly and take pictures. I think there are limited uses.

Some Dingus here in CT put a pistol on a drone awhile back and had a friendly chat with several government agencies as a result.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

BattleMaster posted:

Why does this robot have upholstery?

Why does it need to be a loving robot at all. For that kind of money you can get a couple alexas and several security cameras. Probably even "smart" ones. It would do the same thing without a loving bucket buzzing around your home. What an agressivly useless thing.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

Here's a bit of an odd one I'm going to tear apart:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pimax8kvr/pimax-the-worlds-first-8k-vr-headset?ref=recommended

Alright, so the idea itself isn't bad, but there is a pretty big problem they kind of gloss over with this kickstarter: What kind of machine is required to push out 2x 4k displays worth of graphics at 90 hz? They quote a GTX 980/1070 or an Fiji XT card, but that's not going to cut it...Unless the games aren't running natively at that res, which kind of makes them liars. The horsepower required to push out that many pixels at that refresh rate is going to cost somewhere in the realm of $3,000 for just the computer. I'm imaging a couple Titan XPs in SLI might be able to do the job. Building out a display array that can deliver these kind of resolutions isn't the problem. Finding a computer to actually run this stuff is going to be the challenge.

Also, 4k x 2 isn't 8k. That's not how resolutions work.

To be super fair, it seems like the resolution they're pushing is primarily to get around the screen door effect you have in the headsets. Rendering at the same resolution as say the Vive, and then upscaling it would result in a slightly better experience, provided the effect is lessened there.

You'd have the option of going to their ""8k"" resolution in applications that need less render power though, atleast.

But as you mentioned, unless games can actually account for this and upscale, then no loving way in hell are you getting a reasonable performance from a 980/1070 in games.

(Though this might easily be fixed by having access to SteamVR's down/supersampling feature, where you could run the headset at o.1-5.0 resolution, and upscale automatically. )

" Brainwarp: render and display image in a sequence. i.e. For each time, only one eye can see a 4K image. Pimax 8K renders a single 4K image at 150/180 times per second, but users perceive a complete 8K at 150/180 Hz with high frame rate.

Brainwarp boosts refresh rate, reduces latency and decreases GPU pressure for Pimax 8K. "

They keep increasing numbers to misrepresent themselves though. 2 displays running a 90Hz doesn't really mean they can claim that they're running 180Hz, yet they do.

It also seems like their marketing-speak is trying to claim that their amazing 'Brainwarp' is totally new and amazing, but it just seems like it's doing alternate-frame rendering. Essentially running each display at 45hz, while claiming that this is 180Hz.

Either that, or they're somehow claiming that they're rendering at 180Hz, with every other frame being sent to each individual eye, leading to 2x90.

But that's just terrible. It would mean that you'd have half as much time for the cpu to update poo poo like physics ahead of the frame getting rendered. It's especially bad considering that a great optimization/rendering optimization you can do in VR is having instanced stereo rendering. Which wouldn't really be possible when you're only rendering a mono image twice as fast.



If they can actually build it, and essentially have a SteamVR/Vive/Lighthouse compatible headset with a higher resolution and FOV, then nice, I might be interested once it's on market. But their marketing is kind of misleading.


It is promising to see stuff set up to be compatible with SteamVR's trackers and everything, though.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

I always love the pitch videos for these. "I'm really enjoying my stroll on the beach of San Francisco Bay, under the shadow of popular landmark The Golden Gate Bridge, but what I'd really like to see right now is a first-person view of a hovering robot bumbling through my home."

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I am 100% sure it's just a drone with a piece of carton at the bottom (probably in a failed attempt to make it less noisy).

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Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

I'm sure you did! Hey, maybe you could get a plug from a chiropractor, or maybe a Crystal Healing Specialist™ as well?

As a naturopath, I condemn this product.

Since there are no legal qualifications to be a naturopath where I'm sitting, I can be one if I want.

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