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lol, bille gates after forty years still cannot bear to admit that apple might have done something better than he did just imagine being one of the richest bastards on the planet and being stuck constantly upgrading to the latest lovely windows phone because you are just so personally invested in your company's sales pitch
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when steve jobs said microsoft had no taste he was personally calling out bill gates [at the time he had a heavy hand in microsoft's interface design]
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I'm assuming that clip was from the late 80s/early 90s, and at that time Microsoft was a well oiled technical powerhouse while Apple was circling the loving drain (at least in the late 90s) due to their objectively shittier engineering. but i mean yeah i guess apple always had better font rendering. Old stevie j was that one kid in the playground who loved to talk poo poo constantly whether or not there was any substance to back it up at the time.
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Sep 26, 2017 18:38
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Sapozhnik posted:I'm assuming that clip was from the late 80s/early 90s, and at that time Microsoft was a well oiled technical powerhouse while Apple was circling the loving drain (at least in the late 90s) due to their objectively shittier engineering. it was from 1995 when jobs was at next, but nice nerd rage i guess?
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Sep 26, 2017 18:46
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Fiedler posted:Android. Ugh. Should have stuck with the Windows phone. Anderrhoids.
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rjmccall posted:lol, bille gates after forty years still cannot bear to admit that apple might have done something better than he did also, forcing your wife and kids to use winpho and zunes
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Sep 26, 2017 18:57
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i thought the zune was supposed to have been good
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Sep 26, 2017 18:58
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Zune was good. It was killed prematurely and stupidly.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:00
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it was Brown
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carry on then posted:it was Brown we already established that it was good try and keep up
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flakeloaf posted:i thought the zune was supposed to have been good Wel- come to the social
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Sep 26, 2017 19:04
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the zune ui was bad but unlike previous microsoft interfaces it didn't look bad, it just worked poorly the zune hd ui was almost good but still had giant font disease, a condition that still afflicts microsoft to this day
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Sep 26, 2017 19:09
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the zune was absolute poo poo
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Sep 26, 2017 19:15
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squirt me, br0
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dont be mean to me posted:we already established that it was good the poop color
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Sep 26, 2017 19:17
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i liked my zune 80 
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Sep 26, 2017 19:19
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carry on then posted:it was from 1995 when jobs was at next, but nice nerd rage i guess? dude sold a ten thousand dollar magnesium cube that used display postscript as its rendering model, the first models were black and white because color postscript was too difficult for the hardware of the time but steve refused to compromise on imaging quality
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qirex posted:dude sold a ten thousand dollar magnesium cube that used display postscript as its rendering model, the first models were black and white because color postscript was too difficult for the hardware of the time but steve refused to compromise on imaging quality But the recording was from '95, by which point they had given up on selling hardware.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:29
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zune was fine
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Fiedler posted:But the recording was from '95, by which point they had given up on selling hardware. yeah but quartz [based roughly on pdf instead of postscript] lives on to this day
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1995? christ. apple was a has-been, next was a wank exercise first and an actual marketable product second (although it did admittedly have a decent ui toolkit i guess? just one that wasn't very practical to run on the hardware of the day) meanwhile the dude talks poo poo about the guys who were actually revolutionizing the world by providing functional computing technology to every single home and business, today, with actual pragmatic considerations leading the charge. dude had a gigantic messiah complex and was so incredibly butthurt that it wasn't him making it happen lol taste, loving lol.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:11
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Sapozhnik posted:1995? christ. apple was a has-been, next was a wank exercise first and an actual marketable product second (although it did admittedly have a decent ui toolkit i guess? just one that wasn't very practical to run on the hardware of the day) "never criticize microsoft ever"
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lol 1995.. the year bill gates released his book "the road ahead" where he completely misunderstood what the internet was and made him look like the visionless fool he is
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billy grates knew how to make tools with the existing hardware and infrastructure to optimize and automate a poo poo ton repetitive stuff that was being done by an army of clerical staff but had absolutely no vision for the future and what this stuff was ultimately capable of and Steve did and drove the industry there once MS plucked all the low hanging fruit and ran out of ideas and steam
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microsoft was so bad at the internet they had to buy a web browser from someone else to get ie out before 1996
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:billy grates knew how to make tools with the existing hardware and infrastructure to optimize and automate a poo poo ton repetitive stuff that was being done by an army of clerical staff but had absolutely no vision for the future and what this stuff was ultimately capable of and Steve did and drove the industry there once MS plucked all the low hanging fruit and ran out of ideas and steam It was wise of Bill to step down and make Steve the CEO.
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Fiedler posted:It was wise of Bill to step down and make Steve the CEO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peUh2XQIX5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04FOUQpnGsc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRA
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ibm designs a pc that can be cheaply made out of commodity parts microsoft is contracted to make a lovely os for that pc because ibm can't be bothered microsoft negotiates the right to sell their lovely os to pc cloners because ibm completely misjudges potential for clone market clone market takes off, microsoft rides wave, releases more versions of lovely os microsoft starts developing windows nt, which at least is not total poo poo at the very core, but takes fifteen years to realize that maybe they should just use it instead of continuing to hack more things on top of their lovely os microsoft continues to ride wave of happening to get in on ground floor of a slightly cheaper platform built with another company's market power microsoft releases successive graphical versions of its lovely os, but they're still super lovely. in some ways they're shittier than ever apple still exists and, despite a lot of bad decisions and market disadvantages, still manages to make an os that is somewhat less lovely than microsoft's microsoft is soooo mad that apple still exists, deeply internalizes their sales pitch that apple customers are completely duped by marketing steve returns, apple products start massively improving microsoft spends fifteen years making lovely clones of everything apple does because microsoft is obviously just the best at everything
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rjmccall posted:ibm designs a pc that can be cheaply made out of commodity parts rofl drat, fruit company employees just get absolutely enraged any time somebody criticizes
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microsoft, fail idiots, smelling absolutely awful: ok, our target market in 1995 is PCs with 8MB of RAM and a 486 processor, and we have a strongly established ecosystem of third party DOS and Win16 applications. Let's make an OS to bridge us to the Win32 future that still works with every insane hack that people did with DOS-based systems and fits into a thimbleful of RAM. It'll be a really difficult engineering challenge but it has to be done, then when the time is right and computer systems are more powerful we can move everybody onto our more powerful NT platform that was designed and built by the best minds in the field. apple, refined, discerning intellectuals: HEY GUYS CHECK OUT THIS THING CALLED RHAPSODY ITS GONNA BE PRETTY SWEET LOL *eight year long reverberating farting noise* god drat it taligent and opendoc and copland were going to be so good ...
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Sapozhnik posted:microsoft, fail idiots, smelling absolutely awful: this is precious
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I can't believe these dumb Lusers have been so duped by apple in to liking a thing that isn't openly hostile to them while MS has been here the whole time
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rjmccall posted:ibm designs a pc that can be cheaply made out of commodity parts then steve dies and apple turns to making lovely clones of everything microsoft (and samsung) does because tim has no vision or leadership
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Sapozhnik posted:ok, our target market in 1995 is PCs with 8MB of RAM and a 486 processor, and we have a strongly established ecosystem of third party DOS and Win16 applications. Let's make an OS to bridge us to the Win32 future that still works with every insane hack that people did with DOS-based systems and fits into a thimbleful of RAM. It'll be a really difficult engineering challenge but it has to be done, then when the time is right and computer systems are more powerful we can move everybody onto our more powerful NT platform that was designed and built by the best minds in the field. lol, which part of the brilliant microsoft puppetmaster plan was it to have win95/98/me spontaneously crash multiple times a day, completely tank the brand, and turn microsoft into a laughingstock the legacy-crap argument makes sense until you remember that, no, gently caress that bullshit, they were actually piling up new legacy crap constantly for the entire loving decade. the terrible driver model, activex, ms java, every single lovely version of ie, the registry, terrible new ui toolkits every few years, dll hell, however many different programming environments and runtimes, stupid amounts of stuff shoved into the kernel for no good reason. hmm, i wonder why they've repeatedly tried (and failed) to rewrite the whole thing from scratch
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the registry owns
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Fiedler posted:Zune was good. It was killed prematurely and stupidly. zune hd was great but was released way too loving late in the game to have mattered during the promo period and initial demos it was guaranteed that the most plentiful question was whether it was a phone because, well, why the gently caress wasn't it a phone
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:the registry owns ʜᴏᴡ ɢᴏᴇs ʏᴏᴜʀ ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ-ᴘᴜʀᴘᴏsᴇ sʏsᴛᴇᴍ ᴅᴀᴛᴀʙᴀsᴇ? ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ɪᴛ ᴅᴏᴇsɴ'ᴛ sᴇᴇᴍ!
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duTrieux. posted:zune hd was great but was released way too loving late in the game to have mattered
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b-b-b-b-ut the kin
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