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Lone Goat posted:Remember when people made up a format so they could make use of all their Contract From Belows? 5 color magic was an amazing format you heathen
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Check your emails for confirmation of priority Arena beta access. I just got mine.
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Oct 6, 2017 18:17
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I thought doing a Ixalan prerelease was s'posta get me in?  Where can I find a list of standard-legal multilands? I have a bunch of the common ones from DBTK but as an old person I like duals that come into play UNtapped. Or I guess at least have a chance to.
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Oct 6, 2017 18:33
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I thought doing a Ixalan prerelease was s'posta get me in? The only reprint dual lands in standard are the buddy/check lands from M10,11,12,13. There are some other random ones like Highland Lake that are still in because of Planeswalker decks but they come in tapped.
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Oct 6, 2017 18:37
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Tainen posted:Check your emails for confirmation of priority Arena beta access. I just got mine. Ditto.
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Oct 6, 2017 18:54
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Dehtraen posted:Ditto. Yeah, same, though I plan on pulling strings to make sure I get in. 
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Oct 6, 2017 18:59
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Got mine too. See you fools in The Arena!
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Angry Grimace posted:It is one of those. Jace goes full Monster Musume. you never go full Monster Musume!
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Oct 6, 2017 19:03
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C-Euro posted:Build Mill (don't actually do this) I'd build 8 whack if I wanted a good cheap deck. You can upgrade into a good burn deck over time too with the guides and bolts.
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Oct 6, 2017 19:06
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I thought doing a Ixalan prerelease was s'posta get me in? Standard legal dual lands: -Enemy fast-lands from Kaladesh (come in tapped unless you control 2 or fewer other lands) Inspiring Vantage, Spirebluff Canal, Botanical Sanctum, Blooming Marsh, Concealed Courtyard -Allied cycling lands from Amonkhet (come in tapped, have basic land subtypes, have cycling 2) irrigated farmland, Fetid Pools, Canyon Soough, Sheltered Thicket, Scattered Groves -allied checklands / buddylands originally from M10-M12, reprinted in Ixalan (come into play tapped unless you control a land with one of two basic land subtypes) Glacial Fortress, Drowned Catacomb, Dragonskull Summit, Rootbound Crag, Sunpetal Grove -uncommon plain-old comes-in-tapped lands, kept standard legal by being in all the Planeswalker precon decks, all 10 of em, which I can never remember the names of. NOT the gain-1-life ones from Tarkir block or the Guildgate ones from RTR block. Plus you have Aether Hub (Kaladesh) and Evolving Wilds (last reprinted in Amonkhet, has been standard legal through reprints for at least 5 years and will probably continue to be reprinted as a Standard staple for the foreseeable future)
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Oct 6, 2017 19:39
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TwistedNails posted:I'd build 8 whack if I wanted a good cheap deck. You can upgrade into a good burn deck over time too with the guides and bolts. I'm having a really hard time playing eight whack on xmage vs board wipes and big blockers. It's fun but I don't feel like I really understand it What are some good uses for mogg fanatic? I feel like there's some potential there I'm not seeing
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Oct 6, 2017 19:48
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Watching worlds gives me whole new appreciation for the lengths wizards had to go in putting even more nails in control's coffin considering the coffin had been six feet under ground for 4 years already
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Oct 6, 2017 19:57
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En Fuego posted:Yeah, same, though I plan on pulling strings to make sure I get in. Got mine too, though it just says it's because I played in a prerelease. Most people don't have their emails associated with their DCI account because no one registers their cards anymore, and I've been judging for ~11 years, so I hope that gets me in faster.
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Oct 6, 2017 20:07
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sit on my Facebook posted:Watching worlds gives me whole new appreciation for the lengths wizards had to go in putting even more nails in control's coffin considering the coffin had been six feet under ground for 4 years already It's been a lot longer than four years. The last Actual Real Control Deck was in like, Time Spiral.
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Oct 6, 2017 20:26
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The Shortest Path posted:It's been a lot longer than four years. The last Actual Real Control Deck was in like, Time Spiral. Ivan Floch won a pro tour with a deck containing exactly 0 win conditions like 3 years ago.
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Oct 6, 2017 20:38
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Firebatgyro posted:Ivan Floch won a pro tour with a deck containing exactly 0 win conditions like 3 years ago. How dare you. Elixir of Immortality is a win condition.
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Oct 6, 2017 20:50
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Omar al-Bishie posted:I'm having a really hard time playing eight whack on xmage vs board wipes and big blockers. It's fun but I don't feel like I really understand it Chump block and sac, or sac for goblin grenade, or sac to kill something with 1 toughness like a Mana dork. Or just doing 1 dmg to finish someone off.
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Oct 6, 2017 20:53
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TwistedNails posted:Chump block and sac, or sac for goblin grenade, or sac to kill something with 1 toughness like a Mana dork. Or just doing 1 dmg to finish someone off. Wasn't fanatic only good when damage used the stack?
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Oct 6, 2017 20:59
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mcmagic posted:Wasn't fanatic only good when damage used the stack? it was better, sure, but what do you want to replace it with? it's a one-mana goblin in a deck that's playing all the other good one-mana goblins and does something they don't.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:06
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evilweasel posted:it was better, sure, but what do you want to replace it with? it's a one-mana goblin in a deck that's playing all the other good one-mana goblins and does something they don't. The 1/2 revolt deathtouch guy?
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Oct 6, 2017 21:10
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Firebatgyro posted:Ivan Floch won a pro tour with a deck containing exactly 0 win conditions like 3 years ago. The best, most fun to play standard deck...period. I still have my Sphinx's Revelations and Azorius Charms waiting.....just waiting. MAIN DECK Planeswalkers [3] 3 Jace, Architect of Thought Spells [31] 4 Azorius Charm 4 Dissolve 3 Divination 1 Elixir of Immortality 2 Last Breath 3 Planar Cleansing 4 Quicken 4 Sphinx's Revelation 4 Supreme Verdict 2 Syncopate Lands [25] 2 Azorius Guildgate 4 Hallowed Fountain 6 Island (254) 2 Mutavault 6 Plains 4 Temple of Enlightenment 1 Temple of Epiphany SIDEBOARD 2 Archangel of Thune 1 Deicide 2 Dispel 1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion 2 Gainsay 1 Jace, Memory Adept 2 Last Breath 4 Nyx-Fleece Ram The best most perfect deck ever.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:10
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Madmarker posted:The best, most fun to play standard deck...period. I still have my Sphinx's Revelations and Azorius Charms waiting.....just waiting. Sphinx's Rev won a LOT of bad players a LOT of games.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:17
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mcmagic posted:Sphinx's Rev won a LOT of FTFY
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Oct 6, 2017 21:20
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mcmagic posted:The 1/2 revolt deathtouch guy? that's a very good card but it's a green elf, not a red goblin, making it a somewhat odd choice for a mono-red goblin deck
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Oct 6, 2017 21:25
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Madmarker posted:The best, most fun to play standard deck...period. I still have my Sphinx's Revelations and Azorius Charms waiting.....just waiting. This is still one of the greatest decks of all time! mcmagic posted:Sphinx's Rev won a LOT of bad players a LOT of games. Wait, are you calling Floch bad?
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The Shortest Path posted:It's been a lot longer than four years. The last Actual Real Control Deck was in like, Time Spiral. I know it's only been a few times in a new format but what the gently caress do you call this? 0 creatures mainboarded, playsets of counterspells, card quality and quantity, a stupid-rear end 7-cmc wincon that works better when you make things take forever, optional land-based mill wincon, and 7 board wipes!
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I know it's only been a few times in a new format but what the gently caress do you call this? 0 creatures mainboarded, playsets of counterspells, card quality and quantity, a stupid-rear end 7-cmc wincon that works better when you make things take forever, optional land-based mill wincon, and 7 board wipes! That's combo, and also not actually good. That said, the post your quoting is somehow forgetting both Sphinx's Revelation and Drownyard Control, and doesn't consider the Torrential Gearhulk/Energy lists control either, which is ????.
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mcmagic posted:Sphinx's Rev won a LOT of bad players a LOT of games. im glad for your success
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The Lord of Hats posted:That's combo, and also not actually good. Ok I don't know enough about Ixalan standard to say if it's good or not, but that is a purebred control deck that uses Approach of the Second Sun as a wincon that rewards it for hiding in a corner and throwing eggs at anyone who comes close. It's control, gently caress you. You're right about one thing, though, the guy's conditions must be extremely arbitrary or 100% based on the existence of planeswalkers to be discounting everything since Time Sprial.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:42
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Approach is control, still dogcrap next to energy
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Oct 6, 2017 21:46
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Rides Naked posted:Approach is control, still dogcrap next to energy Thank you.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Ok I don't know enough about Ixalan standard to say if it's good or not, but that is a purebred control deck that uses Approach of the Second Sun as a wincon that rewards it for hiding in a corner and throwing eggs at anyone who comes close. It's control, gently caress you. I was wrong, I thought you were posting the dumb New Horizons deck, I should have given it a closer look. That's a control deck, alright (also probably not good, but hey!)
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Oct 6, 2017 22:05
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Approach did reasonably well at SCG Dallas, but all the control players are on U/B (and one Grixis) at Worlds. They're all running 2-4 answers to Carnage Tyrant in the 75, with 0 copies of the card in the constructed portion of the tournament. There are also 0 copies of Hostage Taker. Worlds is weird these days.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Approach did reasonably well at SCG Dallas, but all the control players are on U/B (and one Grixis) at Worlds. They're all running 2-4 answers to Carnage Tyrant in the 75, with 0 copies of the card in the constructed portion of the tournament. There are also 0 copies of Hostage Taker. It's important to remember formats like that get really, really inbred.
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's important to remember formats like that get really, really inbred. That one guy showed up with mono red treasure!
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Oct 6, 2017 22:27
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Their little info-blurb just said that Brad Nelson has a career *67%* win rate in standard matches. That's fuckin nuts
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Oct 6, 2017 22:31
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mcmagic posted:The 1/2 revolt deathtouch guy? That card is decent in zoo but it has no place in 8 whack. It's also green.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Their little info-blurb just said that Brad Nelson has a career *67%* win rate in standard matches. That's fuckin nuts Just means one thing: He's a cheater.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:57
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AlternateNu posted:Just means one thing: He's a cheater. I mean probably not, what it really shows is that when you are playing at a level where people don't mess up combat math or sequencing the only edge that matters is deck building
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If you think these guys don't mess up combat math or sequencing you don't watch enough matches because they do it on camera, nevermind the matches we don't see, all the time. Also the most important edge is being able to read your opponent, but deck building is a close second
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