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Jerusalem posted:Let's not forget the thoroughly underwhelming ROH tour of Takaaki Watanabe who then returned to NJPW as...... EVIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL Sami is booked the same day in America as Power Struggle. Personally was told Switchblade wasn't Sami. Meltzer in the new Observer wrote that the plan originally was for Callihan and Ibushi to be in the NJPW Tag League.
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Jerusalem posted:Let's not forget the thoroughly underwhelming ROH tour of Takaaki Watanabe who then returned to NJPW as...... EVIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL Here's a guy who totally benefited from right place, right time. Watanabe was always a good wrestler, but never really connected with crowds and was kinda floundering as Guy Who Exists. He then gets a cartoonishly goth gimmick literally called EVIL, who carries around a plastic scythe, and on paper that should be laughed out of every building in Japan. Yet, he fully bought into the character, got put with LIJ at the exact moment where that act got white-hot, and his ring skill rapidly improved to main-event level. He's pretty much a made man now.
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rovert posted:Sami is booked the same day in America as Power Struggle. Personally was told Switchblade wasn't Sami. That's a weird loving team
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Every time I see Sami Callihan I get more baffled that NXT missed the boat on him. He's a loving natural.
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Benne posted:Every time I see Sami Callihan I get more baffled that NXT missed the boat on him. He's a loving natural. He's never really connected with me but I really enjoyed his interview on Observer Live today where he recounted the way his NXT run went. "You're too aggressive." Adjusts style "Your problem is you don't show enough aggression."
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Baron Corbyn posted:That's a weird loving team Maybe Sami is doing that stupid cat gimmick or a variation on it to promote the Tiger Mask cartoon. Benne posted:Every time I see Sami Callihan I get more baffled that NXT missed the boat on him. He's a loving natural. Nah he's a goober.
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Jerusalem posted:He's never really connected with me but I really enjoyed his interview on Observer Live today where he recounted the way his NXT run went. Maybe the timing just never worked out? IIRC Sami signed with NXT back when they were accepting indie darlings, but not really letting them be them yet. So he farted around barely being on TV, with a half-assed hacker/punk gimmick, and left the company without doing anything of note. Since then, he's become one of the hottest indie acts around, while NXT built its product around former indie guys keeping their indie names and gimmicks. Here's just a quick example of how times have changed: In 2014, they brought in KENTA, changed his name and didn't let him do his popular moves because Punk and Bryan did them. In 2017, they brought in Adam Cole, let him keep his name and popular catchphrase despite it being a Jericho staple, and immediately pushed him to the main event level. Benne fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 10:57
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rovert posted:Sami is booked the same day in America as Power Struggle. Personally was told Switchblade wasn't Sami. I was going to say I missed that and then I realized today's thursday and a new issue's out
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Oct 12, 2017 15:38
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If switchblade's not Sami than I don't see how he could'n't be Jay White, especially since this is the exact pattern as the vignettes leading to Hiromu's return last year. They obviously have plans for him given the hype and the long beach booking, and the equivalent angle last year led to a big dome title match for the returning YL. If Tana beats Ibushi I wonder if they're gonna give him an IC shot right out of the gate. No other obvious challengers unless the Shibata theory's true.
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switchblade is a fine gimmick for sami who already lives and breathes a certain mid-american scumminess. it's not at all COOL but it would be authentic, which is the next best thing. it would be cringe-worthy for white-meat jay white and his bad haircut
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Super No Vacancy posted:switchblade is a fine gimmick for sami who already lives and breathes a certain mid-american scumminess. it's not at all COOL but it would be authentic, which is the next best thing. it would be cringe-worthy for white-meat jay white and his bad haircut It's not what I'd do either, but it's no worse on paper than "let's make takaaki watanabe our version of the undertaker when he gets back", and that ended up working out ok.
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many elements of the EVIL gimmick limit his potential and will need to evolve before he's ready for the upper echelon
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Super No Vacancy posted:many elements of the EVIL gimmick limit his potential and will need to evolve before he's ready for the upper echelon agreed 100%, but it's mostly worked to get him over to a upper midcardish level capable of being in the main event of a Sumo Hall show without it bombing.
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Super No Vacancy posted:many elements of the EVIL gimmick limit his potential and will need to evolve before he's ready for the upper echelon everything is already evil how much further can you go
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Super No Vacancy posted:many elements of the EVIL gimmick limit his potential and will need to evolve before he's ready for the upper echelon I'm just getting into NJPW but why is that? The EVIL gimmick wouldn't get an Okada length run at the moment but it would be interesting to see him win the title and hold it for a bit.
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i will not accept evil without his laser pointer fingers, plastic scythe and tarp cloak
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I'd love to see an EVIL Tokyo Dome entrance but I don't think he could do 45 minutes, much less a Meltzer popper.
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I think EVIL has solidified his ceiling as an upper-midcard gatekeeper type (a la Goto or Elgin), which is still a really good spot in NJPW. Would love to see him get a run with the NEVER belt sometime next year.
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checksin posted:EVIL will be IWGP Heavyweight Champion before Goto
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Goto is a solid if unspectacular worker. YOSHI-HASHI is the Dolph Ziggler of NJPW.
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Benne posted:I think EVIL has solidified his ceiling as an upper-midcard gatekeeper type (a la Goto or Elgin), which is still a really good spot in NJPW. Would love to see him get a run with the NEVER belt sometime next year. He's been back from excursion for two years and has shown steady improvement in that timeframe. Plenty of time to improve further, not everyone gets it immediately like Okada. Look at how long it took Naito to become a real ME guy.
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Benne posted:Hiromu is kind of a fascinating example of how much a guy can reinvent himself on excursion. He started off doing the Young Lions thing with an all-generic character as per tradition, went to Mexico and worked under a mask as Kamaitachi, lost the mask during an instant-classic feud with Dragon Lee, kept wrestling as Kamaitachi for a bit, and then came back to Japan working his real name but with the new Time Bomb gimmick, which he later tweaked into a caretaker of lazy stuffed cats.
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Jack Anderson posted:Goto is a solid if unspectacular worker. Ziggler is a better wrestler than YOSHI-HASHI.
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Jack Anderson posted:Goto is a solid if unspectacular worker. I can't honestly think of any Yoshi-Hashi matches that are interesting, even when he's getting battered.
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Under the vegetable posted:Ziggler is a better wrestler than YOSHI-HASHI. Such great heights
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what happened to definitely juice robinson's nose? is he okay?
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checksin posted:EVIL will be IWGP Heavyweight Champion before Goto EVIL and I have something in common!
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Is Global Wars gonna be on World? If yes, follow-up question, anything worth watching from day 1?
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https://twitter.com/D_TaPla/status/918924199430832128 okada as rey <3
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cams posted:okada as rey <3 Meh, Okada's hotter.
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https://twitter.com/toshanshuinLA/status/918945035349086210 Can anyone in Japan confirm whether or not the Japanese press are saying ROH is the reason NJPW is so good?
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