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SuperMechagodzilla posted:“Darkness” refers to literal darkness of the image, while “grimness” refers to the degree to which the audience-identification character enjoys what they do. Whoa Mr. Big Brain over here figured out "grimdark" is a tonal thing!
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The Shadow should be in a DC movie. They've got the rights to the character.
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Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of darkseed?
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Oct 15, 2017 06:03
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Luuke knows
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Lobok posted:Given what we've seen of him so far I hope the joke would be more like "I 
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porfiria posted:Whoa Mr. Big Brain over here figured out "grimdark" is a tonal thing! Neither of those things refer to the tone of a film. Even in terms of color theory, the level of darkness is shade, not tone.
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UmOk posted:Joe Abercrombie is not grimdark. Not saying it doesn't get grim sometimes but it has tons of humor cool inversions of the genre. What inversions are there? Aside from 'everyone is bad instead of only one side being bad'?
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porfiria posted:I don't know the first couple Harry Potter movies are utter garbage, the Cuaron one is great (duh), 4 is really bad. 5 on are hit and miss but they're generally all right. The fourth movie just feels weird because I'm curious if someone who hadn't read the book would have any idea what the hell was going on in it. Whereas someone who read the book is just going "Huh, where's <X>? What happened to <Y>, why are they not talking about <Z>?"
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All the Harry Potter movies are "bad"
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I'm predicting a scene where Aquamam wears a bright orange shirt and either he or someone else comments on how stupid a bright orange shirt looks. this is the type of ironic detachment i despise about marvel movies
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got any sevens posted:Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of darkseed? Whoever killed Rita knows.
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Harry Potter 4 is an absolutely lush film, the first one where it feels like every penny spent is up on screen.
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Snowman_McK posted:What inversions are there? Aside from 'everyone is bad instead of only one side being bad'? Inversion was probably the wrong word cause I don't talks no goods. I guess I mean it plays with conventions. The brave noble knight who is actually a coward who only wins fights accidentally. The kindly old wizard is actually a homicidal maniac with a temper. The stoic warrior who wants to do good but tends to go into rages and kill his friends. The hardened torturer actually has a heart. I'm sure there's more but I haven't read it in a while.
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porfiria posted:I don't know the first couple Harry Potter movies are utter garbage, the Cuaron one is great (duh), 4 is really bad. 5 on are hit and miss but they're generally all right. 4 is the best because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdoD2147Fik
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Chucat posted:The fourth movie just feels weird because I'm curious if someone who hadn't read the book would have any idea what the hell was going on in it. Whereas someone who read the book is just going "Huh, where's <X>? What happened to <Y>, why are they not talking about <Z>?" I don't think this is true. It's not that complicated a story. The film flows fine as it is.
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Chucat posted:The fourth movie just feels weird because I'm curious if someone who hadn't read the book would have any idea what the hell was going on in it. Whereas someone who read the book is just going "Huh, where's <X>? What happened to <Y>, why are they not talking about <Z>?" 4 was the second HP movie I saw after watching the first in college and writing the series off. So not only had I not read the books but I hadn't seen the previous two films. It's actually what got me interested in the whole series. I think the only confusing part was Sirius Black showing up super briefly in the fire without being established, otherwise everything else was pretty clear from context or simply explained. The guys haircuts were really lovely in retrospect but I think helped visually sell the "they're growing up and dealing with scarier poo poo" aspect. I guess they could have gone with lovely teenage facial hair which would have been hilarious.
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UmOk posted:Inversion was probably the wrong word cause I don't talks no goods. I guess I mean it plays with conventions. That's Monty Python's Holy Grail.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The Shadow should be in a DC movie. They've got the rights to the character.
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Timeless Appeal posted:A Shadow/Phantom/Strange universe that acknowledges all the uncomfortable poo poo and plays around with it without simply whitewashing it would be fun. This sounds like it would turn into Defenders of the Earth.
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porfiria posted:I don't know the first couple Harry Potter movies are utter garbage, the Cuaron one is great (duh), 4 is really bad. 5 on are hit and miss but they're generally all right. 5 is the one where the school gets taken over by some lady from the wizard council, right? Because of the Harry Potter movies I've seen that one is my least favourite by a country mile.
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Yeah that's 5. 2 and 5 are rear end, the rest are decent enough to rewatch
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I like the one with the grim reapers and Gary oldman. Well that's my story.
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got any sevens posted:Yeah that's 5. 2 and 5 are rear end, the rest are decent enough to rewatch 5 was weird because it was the longest book by a bit and the shortest movie by a bunch, like significantly shorter than even the first two movies. So even getting the basic plot points in there left you with a crammed and rushed movie and you still missed out on a ton of the fun little extra details and unimportant but still cool stuff that really sells the "teenagers going to a school learning magic" hijinks that a lot of the audience watches (and goes to Universal Studios' Harry Potter world, and spends a bunch of money on merch) for.
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2 is such an unimaginative movie, like how did Chris Columbus get away with evidently not giving a poo poo about anything.
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So what are you guys Harry Potter preferred watch order?
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I really wish Joe Dante would have replaced Chris Columbus on the first two films. They wouldn't have been great movies, but at least more fun to look at.
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josh04 posted:2 is such an unimaginative movie, like how did Chris Columbus get away with evidently not giving a poo poo about anything. Outside of maybe the first Home Alone, when did Columbus give a poo poo about anything he directed? The guy is the master of boring.
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UmOk posted:Inversion was probably the wrong word cause I don't talks no goods. I guess I mean it plays with conventions. Functionally, narratively, those things work exactly like the thing they're inverting. The noble knight still wins the tournament and leads his armies to victory, he's just a puppet. The wizard is still always right and defeats his rival. The stoic warrior still defeats his rivals and unites the north just in time to counter the invasion. It's just that nobody does anything sincerely and the book itself works hard to maintain a cynical detachment, but we still hit all the conventional beats of the story. He's a good writer, and I read five of his books before I got sick of his style, but it's cynical take on the same fairly standard story.
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Timby posted:Outside of maybe the first Home Alone, when did Columbus give a poo poo about anything he directed? The guy is the master of boring. The first Harry Potter is super-safe in all its choices but it's at least a lavish spread of detailed sets, costumes and character actors. The second one consists entirely of Dumbledore, Snape and McGonagall looking surprised in various identical stone corridors. The absolute nadir is when Harry experiences a vision of the past and the only difference between the past and the present is a sepia tint and some dutch angles.
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Wow there were 8 Harry Potter films.
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Nine if you count the one about learning to love american wizard fascism.
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The Harry Potter Cinematic Universe is both wide and deep.
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Schwarzwald posted:The Harry Potter Cinematic Universe is both wide and deep. J K Rowling's Wizarding World. I hear the villain of the next film is called Jeremiah Corvin.
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Timby posted:Outside of maybe the first Home Alone, when did Columbus give a poo poo about anything he directed? The guy is the master of boring. Mrs. Doubtfire is one of the all time greats
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I'm still mad that the Golden Compass movie was so loving bad. The His Dark Materials series is leagues better than Harry Potter. I would go so far to call The Golden Compass film an atrocity.
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PriorMarcus posted:J K Rowling's Wizarding World. The new unforgivable curse is 'raiseth taxeth'
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Mordiceius posted:I'm still mad that the Golden Compass movie was so loving bad. Totes, my man. It's like the cinematic equivalent of Auschwitz.
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josh04 posted:Nine if you count the one about learning to love american wizard fascism.
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josh04 posted:Nine if you count the one about learning to love american wizard fascism. I saw Fantastic Beasts for the first time a week ago and yeah, it does lean heavy into that doesn't it? The most unbelievable thing in that film was a woman of color, being the president of all magic or whatever the gently caress in the US, being a social conservative. Unless the characterization in the book was different. Mr. Apollo posted:Fantastic Beasts is part of the Harry Potter Extended Universe. I think they said there are five more films planned. Yep.
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