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This is not accurate. The GOP should have the serene face of someone who is accepted their place in the universe.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 00:21 |
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HootTheOwl posted:WE REJECT THE EUROPEAN UNION. EXPATRIATE! EXPATRIATE! I appreciate you.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 00:27 |
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Where are these GOP concerned over Trump's actions? *batman voice* WHERE ARE THEY?!
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 00:30 |
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Ularg posted:Where are these GOP concerned over Trump's actions? *batman voice* WHERE ARE THEY?! Oh they're very concerned. I'd even say they're disturbed
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 00:48 |
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Ularg posted:Where are these GOP concerned over Trump's actions? *batman voice* WHERE ARE THEY?! John McCain is very concerned at all times, about all things.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 00:53 |
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Ularg posted:Where are these GOP concerned over Trump's actions? *batman voice* WHERE ARE THEY?! Having lived thru Nixon (yes, I'm old) I have very little optimism that Trump will be trumped. Why? Because unlike the Nixon era, the Democrats are pathetically weak. They represent no threat in the midterms and they won't clean house to fix it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 00:58 |
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VideoGameVet posted:Having lived thru Nixon (yes, I'm old) I have very little optimism that Trump will be trumped. How the gently caress were Democrats not weak in the Nixon era following the disastrous McGovern campaign?
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 01:07 |
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Fulchrum posted:How the gently caress were Democrats not weak in the Nixon era following the disastrous McGovern campaign? They held both chambers of Congress from JFK to Reagan and even he couldn't take the House.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 01:17 |
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VideoGameVet posted:they won't clean house to fix it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 01:35 |
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No, but unironically this. War is hell, a poorly run war is even worse. But that is why presidents need to be more civil. Being intentionally inflammatory makes it much more likely that war breaks out. Trump has made threats of Fire and Fury, or "only one thing will work" or any other dozen ways he's threatened nuclear war. The Korean peninsula is nuclear armed, with China and Japan in close range. Estimates have the death toll at 50,000 in the first 5 minutes with close to a million within the first 48 hours and that's assuming the nukes don't even come into the picture. If nukes get involved, it could be the deadliest conflict since WWII in a matter of a week. And Trump's carelessly and almost unknowingly pushing us towards that. Bush chose a war we didn't need to do, but he did not speak so recklessly or without regard for the weight of his words. And his mistake in Iraq doesn't mean he's wrong forever about everything.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 03:06 |
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Tom Perez, he's certainly no Romney McDaniel.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 03:36 |
Cpt.Americant posted:
He literally said that god told him to go to war.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 05:03 |
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sheep-dodger posted:Don't worry, Perez has you covered. Does anyone else feel like our options for political representation have become fringe crazies, unabashed corporatists, and secret-not-so-secret Fascists? Almost as if we have to choose between a future like Snow Crash or one like 1984. Team "will do almost anything for money" is clearly better than team "gently caress over minorities and women" but why can't we do any better than that?
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 05:31 |
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SwitchbladeKult posted:Does anyone else feel like our options for political representation have become fringe crazies, unabashed corporatists, and secret-not-so-secret Fascists? Almost as if we have to choose between a future like Snow Crash or one like 1984. Team "will do almost anything for money" is clearly better than team "gently caress over minorities and women" but why can't we do any better than that? Your voting system mostly. Also your media.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 05:41 |
sheep-dodger posted:Don't worry, Perez has you covered. This coverage is pretty openly poo poo-stirring.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 05:42 |
Alhazred posted:He literally said that god told him to go to war. Whats worse. A religious zealot going to war or an overcompensating moron going to war.
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SwitchbladeKult posted:Does anyone else feel like our options for political representation have become fringe crazies, unabashed corporatists, and secret-not-so-secret Fascists? Almost as if we have to choose between a future like Snow Crash or one like 1984. Team "will do almost anything for money" is clearly better than team "we will do almost anything for money and also gently caress over minorities and women" but why can't we do any better than that? Fixed for the sake of tedious nitpicking. Anyway, the archaic American political system combined with the unscrupulous and psychotic vector of state violence that is our police force is, if nothing else, sublime in its design at holding the electorate hostage while enforcing a narrow spectrum of political and economic philosophy. There are a bevy of reasons why this country ought to have fallen apart long ago and it is legitimately something of a historical marvel that this thing is still going with the same foundation for over two centuries.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 05:45 |
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I like how the map-territory relation has slid so far that loyalty to Bernie Sanders IS progressivism.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 06:02 |
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Alhazred posted:He literally said that god told him to go to war. So he's the first president ever to say god is on our side then? No one else has used those words? You're presenting it like that was why he made that decision, that he was agnostic on the topic of war until he heard god tell him to go gently caress up Iraq. He wanted that war since he got into office. He was talking in the summer of 2001 about the dangers of Iraq. And even if I went with the other version, I'd argue that "god told me to" is still more measured language than 9/10 statements Trump has made. Because unlike Trump, Bush went out of his way to assure Muslims we were not at war with you, and that our enemy was not "Iraq" but "Iraq's current government." Where was Bush's threat of fire and fury if Iraq said any more mean things? When did Bush threaten to "totally destroy" Iraq with nuclear weapons? He loving didn't, and his speech about the dangers of populist nationalism or careless threats of war is entirly valid even though he made a colossal loving mistake.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 06:27 |
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Chip Bok posted:The Russian Nuclear firm Rosatom bought Canadian mining company Uranium One in 2010. The deal gave Putin control over 20% of the U.S. Uranium supply. 9 10
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 06:31 |
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Cpt.Americant posted:So he's the first president ever to say god is on our side then? No one else has used those words? Imperialism is bad and it doesn't really matter what words you use to dress it up in. Bush murdered a million people so that he could hand the looted wealth of a nation over to his frat buddies. If he has anything he wants to say he can say it in front of The Hauge otherwise he can shut the gently caress up. A million dead Iraqis is just a mistake. Dimebags Brain fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Starving Wolf posted:Winslow: I got shot at, ban all gunz! I am a dumb trashfox! On track so far.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 08:04 |
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A. Wiener. Ignoring his paternalistic bullshit for a second, he couldn't even make a serious cartoon without making a wiener joke, which is rich considering his name is loving Sack.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 08:55 |
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Thank God republicans were able to expose this progressive menace!
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 09:15 |
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What the gently caress's happened to Tinsley's drawing hand recently? Why is Mallard so totally hosed? Why are they coming out this sketchy and awful? Is he finally behind schedule? Is he finally dying? Can we all finally be released from this self-imposed hell?
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 10:53 |
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:Thank God republicans were able to expose this progressive menace!
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 10:58 |
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rodbeard posted:A. Wiener. I figure it's more that Anthony Weiner wouldn't have fit unless he wrote the letters smaller, or broke it onto two lines. 'A. Weiner' is already more than halfway across the page without getting six more letters in there. But you can't blame him for the name. Could've done Rep. Weiner I guess. edit: wouldn't, not would Prism fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Oct 24, 2017 |
# ? Oct 24, 2017 11:27 |
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rodbeard posted:A. Wiener. That's literally the guy's name.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 11:30 |
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SwitchbladeKult posted:Does anyone else feel like our options for political representation have become fringe crazies, unabashed corporatists, and secret-not-so-secret Fascists? Almost as if we have to choose between a future like Snow Crash or one like 1984. Team "will do almost anything for money" is clearly better than team "gently caress over minorities and women" but why can't we do any better than that? The country has a left, and it's awake, even if it is constantly getting blackballed from the only viable political party in the country that doesn't require a strong desire to glass the Middle East as a membership requirement. Things can still get better, but it's looking very strongly like they won't get better next year, or two years after that. Gotta think long-term. Shangri-Law School posted:I like how the map-territory relation has slid so far that loyalty to Bernie Sanders IS progressivism. In my experience the ones who parse everything in terms of loyalty are the centrists, since commitment to ideals rather than personal allegiance would necessarily take you to one side of the political spectrum or the other your post only serves as evidence of it loquacius fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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loquacius posted:The country has a left, and it's awake, even if it is constantly getting blackballed from the only viable political party in the country that doesn't require a strong desire to glass the Middle East as a membership requirement. Things can still get better, but it's looking very strongly like they won't get better next year, or two years after that. Gotta think long-term. IMO it doesn't help that too many people are outrage-focused rather than builders. The dismissive complaints and nihilism about the Democrats that I see pretty much everywhere is insanely counterproductive. Lots of putative leftists don't engage in Democratic politicking, they don't vote in primaries, a lot don't even bother voting in elections because gently caress it. Shitheads rule the world because shitheads vote. TPUSA rules the republican party because they primaried everyone and the rest of their coalition didn't care. Democrats exist in a weird state of being leftists in an uneasy alliance with hippie punchers because that's how Bill Clinton won (-ish) elections. But that was a generation ago. The Democrats are moving left overall but people who grew up in one politics, stick to that politics. And only participation in the left coalition - which is what the Democrats *are* - can push out hippie punchers in favor of progressives etc.
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Office Pig posted:Fixed for the sake of tedious nitpicking. Nah, the average empire lasts 250 years and plays out in mostly the same ways, we're just unique and special in that in lieu of barbarians or local disaster we built a global climate catastrophe to usher us out.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 13:10 |
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Sandpuppy posted:
You mean, the Pontifex? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMteXK2fRog I miss that game. Edit: Oh, you mean Pope, the cartoon artist, not The Pope from Rome (aka, the Pontifex) Tei fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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I wish, back before my parents retired the drug swag they got get was amazing.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 13:15 |
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:IMO it doesn't help that too many people are outrage-focused rather than builders. The dismissive complaints and nihilism about the Democrats that I see pretty much everywhere is insanely counterproductive. Lots of putative leftists don't engage in Democratic politicking, they don't vote in primaries, a lot don't even bother voting in elections because gently caress it. Shitheads rule the world because shitheads vote. TPUSA rules the republican party because they primaried everyone and the rest of their coalition didn't care. Democrats exist in a weird state of being leftists in an uneasy alliance with hippie punchers because that's how Bill Clinton won (-ish) elections. But that was a generation ago. The Democrats are moving left overall but people who grew up in one politics, stick to that politics. And only participation in the left coalition - which is what the Democrats *are* - can push out hippie punchers in favor of progressives etc. You realize of course that what precipitated this conversation was the news that a whole lot of progressives who were participating in the left coalition have just been expelled from it You're not wrong, though -- the reason Third-Wayists run the Democratic Party is that they took control of it 25 years ago and have spent all that time consolidating power. And a lot of idealistic young people are really burned-out on the entire system, which isn't constructive. But since 2016 more young people than ever are getting involved in politics. It's just a slow-burn process that requires a lot of people to retire without replacing themselves with sycophants.
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# ? Oct 24, 2017 13:37 |
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Remember, the left is cleanly divided into evil centrists and noble progressives, defined by the party functionaries they support in the Perez-Ellison scuffle (Ellison's still there, does this mean he's a sellout now?). The DNC isn't even that important, but if you have members willing to blow up the coalition when they don't get everything they want, which defeats the entire purpose of a political party, you may need to clean house.
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Shangri-Law School posted:Remember, the left is cleanly divided into evil centrists and noble progressives, defined by the party functionaries they support in the Perez-Ellison scuffle (Ellison's still there, does this mean he's a sellout now?). The DNC isn't even that important, but if you have members willing to blow up the coalition when they don't get everything they want, which defeats the entire purpose of a political party, you may need to clean house. yes hm very wise *puffs bubble pipe*
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Shangri-Law School posted:Remember, the left is cleanly divided into evil centrists and noble progressives, defined by the party functionaries they support in the Perez-Ellison scuffle (Ellison's still there, does this mean he's a sellout now?). The DNC isn't even that important, but if you have members willing to blow up the coalition when they don't get everything they want, which defeats the entire purpose of a political party, you may need to clean house. Would you like to substantiate this little smear of yours?
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Cpt.Americant posted:So he's the first president ever to say god is on our side then? No one else has used those words? On the other, that's not what W said. What he said, according to the biography of him by Jean Edward Smith, was: quote:According to Smith, in a January 2003 phone call between Bush and Frech President Jacques Chirac, during which Bush urged the French president to support a United Nations Security Council resolution on Iraq, Bush allegedly told his counterpart, "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. Biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase His people’s enemies before a new age begins"
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