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Jeb! Repetition posted:Hillary supported Trump's nomination because she thought he would be the easiest to beat and would give her the most congresspeople She was also obsessed with beating Obama's accomplishments such as sending campaign resources to places like AZ and GA.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Hillary supported Trump's nomination because she thought he would be the easiest to beat and would give her the most congresspeople Boy did she gently caress that one up!
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proponents of basic income are looking at the problem in completely the wrong way. why is it that we allow such an absurd economic system that is not able to provide employment for people who want employment? why do we allow an economic system to allow so much to labor and still live in squalor despite generating enormous economic value? why say we need to redistribute and not analyze why we allow a system producing such great inequalities in the first place? the proposal of a basic income is a band-aid and does not fundamentally address the root causes of the problems it purports to solve. under a capitalist system, such a policy will be undermined at every turn. the taxes to pay for beneficiaries will by design be shared by both laborers and capitalists to sow perpetual divisiveness. see what happened to welfare in the united states. see what has happened to the distribution of taxation between laborers and capitalists in the united states and what is being proposed at this very moment in congress. a simple calculation of the United State's GDP per capita will show that those relying on just basic income like the graph proposes will practically live in squalor and poverty. our present economic system is (in general) structured in such a way that a job is only provided if a capitalist believes that they will be able to profit off of providing that job. the entire history of capitalism in the united states has shown that this has always resulted structurally in large numbers of unemployed. this system exacerbates the misery of economic downturns by creating a feedback loop of firing people and not hiring. this is insanity. to spend time and energy on a band-aid like basic income on this problem and not a true solution is insanity. what are reasonable solutions to unemployment? they've already been done and proven in this country. cut the work week. public employment to fill what the private enterprises fundamentally and practically cannot fill. there is absolutely no shortage of productive work that can benefit society. we toil under a fundamentally broken economic system that denies employment when there is literally no shortage of work. the ultimate goal should be moving away from tyrannical employer-employee relationships to worker-owned enterprises. richard wolff has a good socialist critique of the basic income under a capitalist system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRXdUiDnIqk
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Guy Goodbody posted:Boy did she gently caress that one up! I think she was actually right, and he did the worst against her any of the nominees would have
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I think she was actually right, and he did the worst against her any of the nominees would have It's really hard to say, because Clinton vs Jeb! or Clinton vs Rubio would've loving destroyed the record for lowest voter participation.
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Guy Goodbody posted:It's really hard to say, because Clinton vs Jeb! or Clinton vs Rubio would've loving destroyed the record for lowest voter participation. Imagine a Jeb!! and Liddle marco rubio ticket
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i agree w/ the clinton campaign that trump was her easiest opponent. even jeb bush would've klobbed her.
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https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/924289692929019910 tulsi gabbard is good again
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on the contrary imprisoning literally 1% of your entire adult population is a great economic policy for the prison industrial complex
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I hope she runs, I'm so loving excited to hear all of our complaints about her foreign policy positions parroted back by disingenuous liberals!
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also imprisoning 2.2 million people and only considering the taxes required to imprison them would only result in an economic criticism that it costs taxpayers "billions". the long-term lost opportunity cost to society of productively employing these people (beyond the few in literal slave labour) is surely in the trillions.
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loquacius posted:Hi suck zone, I'm apparently going to a Halloween party tonight at a friend of a friend's apartment who works for a finance company thats a good costume but maybe i'm biased https://youtu.be/xeKMS62GrTI
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comedyblissoption posted:also imprisoning 2.2 million people and only considering the taxes required to imprison them would only result in an economic criticism that it costs taxpayers "billions". the long-term lost opportunity cost to society of productively employing these people (beyond the few in literal slave labour) is surely in the trillions. extremely hillary voice: prisoners are productive members of society
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keep in mind also the masses of laborers dedicated to simply imprisoning people as well who are not allocated to otherwise productively pursue other occupations. this includes the masses of lawyers, suppliers, judges, clerks, law enforcement, security personnel, construction workers, maintenance workers, etc.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I hope she runs, I'm so loving excited to hear all of our complaints about her foreign policy positions parroted back by disingenuous liberals! i hope she runs too but i dont trust her any further than i can surf her, she could just be another obama
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comedyblissoption posted:keep in mind also the masses of laborers dedicated to simply imprisoning people as well who are not allocated to otherwise productively pursue other occupations. this includes the masses of lawyers, suppliers, judges, clerks, law enforcement, security personnel, construction workers, maintenance workers, etc. Yeah, if it weren't for the prison industrial complex, the people who are currently prison guards would be free to be toll booth operators, bouncers at dog tracks, or professional spouse abusers.
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today, i've stumbled into a nest of ancaps who are trying to argue that the minimum wage is what's ruining the economy. because every now and then i like to be reminded that i hate almost everybody.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:today, i've stumbled into a nest of ancaps who are trying to argue that the minimum wage is what's ruining the economy. Cheer yourself up by remembering that time an American ancap tried to foster solidarity with Greek anarchists and they instead beat him up.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:in an alternate universe: Speaking of, I've not seen sufficient caling out of the DNC mailers for their ridiculous histrionic bullshit subject lines, at least not among actual media. Like, a bog standard fundraising email should not have a subject like "OH GOD MY FACE IS MELTING SEND $". This poo poo is enervating to the base and whatever 200k+ salaried psychology PhD consultant they hired to to craft their messaging needs to take some fukken xanax. edit: or if not the DNC, the dems in general. Grimoire has issued a correction as of 22:37 on Oct 28, 2017 |
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Grimoire posted:Speaking of, I've not seen sufficient caling out of the DNC mailers for their ridiculous histrionic bullshit subject lines, at least not among actual media. Like, a bog standard fundraising email should not have a subject like "OH GOD MY FACE IS MELTING SEND $". This poo poo is enervating to the base and whatever 200k+ salaried psychology PhD consultant they hired to to craft their messaging needs to take some fukken xanax. or maybe they could just get the gently caress out of political consultancy because the numbers the dnc has been showing is proving they're not loving working
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:or maybe they could just get the gently caress out of political consultancy because the numbers the dnc has been showing is proving they're not loving working originally was gonna say 'guillotine', but the blades will be dull by the time we get through the R's
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Grimoire posted:Speaking of, I've not seen sufficient caling out of the DNC mailers for their ridiculous histrionic bullshit subject lines, at least not among actual media. Like, a bog standard fundraising email should not have a subject like "OH GOD MY FACE IS MELTING SEND $". This poo poo is enervating to the base and whatever 200k+ salaried psychology PhD consultant they hired to to craft their messaging needs to take some fukken xanax. that comes with the dccc as well and it baffles that there are people outside of those organizations stupid enough to try and argue that poo poo works
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Office Pig posted:that comes with the dccc as well and it baffles that there are people outside of those organizations stupid enough to try and argue that poo poo works The emails were hilariously bad especially all the mentions of cool celebs loving Hillary.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:today, i've stumbled into a nest of ancaps who are trying to argue that the minimum wage is what's ruining the economy. i guess in an accelerationist way they might be right, because killing the min wage would exacerbate the problems with capitalism and perhaps hasten a revolution 
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jimmy dore live in 8 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9FaGmyedZ8 his last two internet live shows apparently had extreme internet connectivity problems
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:today, i've stumbled into a nest of ancaps who are trying to argue that the minimum wage is what's ruining the economy.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Hillary supported Trump's nomination because she thought he would be the easiest to beat and would give her the most congresspeople some people claim they voted Trump as a joke because they thought Clinton would've won sure its convenient to wave away a justification but the implication is still stupidly funny regardless and it applies either way
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Rubio or Jeb! or Kasich were consistently polling ahead of Clinton until they stopped asking the question and would've destroyed her
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Shear Modulus posted:Rubio or Jeb! or Kasich were consistently polling ahead of Clinton until they stopped asking the question and would've destroyed her Kasich would have won the go to dinners 2-3 times a week demographic.
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in the couple of months between the escalator and when trump won the primary (he won the primary probably by november or december of 2015 when he succeeded in making it all about him) rubio and jeb! and kasich were all campaigning extremely obama and speaking hopeful and optimistic about how america's best days were ahead of us and if any of them were nominated hillary would have run right into the same wall of "people dont want to be told their hopes and dreams of having a good life are unrealistic" that she did against both obama and trump
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if you unironically think that trump was a great gop candidate instead of an absolute garbage dumpster fire electorally compared to a traditional republican campaign then lol
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comedyblissoption posted:if you unironically think that trump was a great gop candidate instead of an absolute garbage dumpster fire electorally compared to a traditional republican campaign then lol I just wanted a Jeb! presidency!
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loquacius posted:I'm not 100% sure but the apartment is in a really fancy part of town so probably the latter Well it's an apartment so really you're only destroying the landlord's property and getting the friend a sweet insurance payout if he knows how to work that system re: renter's coverage. Actually all things considered, you're mostly hurting various insurance companies on both ends so it's really quite a win-win.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Hillary supported Trump's nomination because she thought he would be the easiest to beat and would give her the most congresspeople She was also correct, turns out she's just bad enough to lose to the worst of the worst.
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etalian posted:Imagine a Jeb!! and Liddle marco rubio ticket Rubio woulda crushed Clinton like Obama crushed McCain tbh. That sort of likeability disparity is impossible to overcome.
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Vox Nihili posted:Rubio woulda crushed Clinton like Obama crushed McCain tbh. That sort of likeability disparity is impossible to overcome. robot vs robot
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got any sevens posted:i guess in an accelerationist way they might be right, because killing the min wage would exacerbate the problems with capitalism and perhaps hasten a revolution Any real revolution in America at this point has a drat good chance of resulting in actual fascism.
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Vox Nihili posted:Any real revolution in America at this point has a drat good chance of resulting in actual fascism. if i had to guess, to me it seems like the generals and the spooks are still primarily loyal to the cold-war and end-of-history neoliberal/neoconservative mishmash so after any real revolution is put down i think the aftermath would look closer to what those entities have been propping up in other countries for decades than open fascism
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Vox Nihili posted:Rubio woulda crushed Clinton like Obama crushed McCain tbh. That sort of likeability disparity is impossible to overcome. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/08/31/poll-clinton-trump-most-unfavorable-candidates-ever/89644296/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/ clinton was of course 2nd worst lmao. clinton was probably the only democratic party candidate that could lose to loving trump. hell, with more and more that comes out about the campaign, i think even loving chaffee would've won. MOM wouldve certainly beat the don despite his lovely baltimore and maryland past
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