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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:2. The MA Supreme Court just handed down a ruling that private citizens that publicly accuse someone must meet the higher standards that public citizens have to meet for Libel and Slander suits, effectively giving the perpetrator's legal team carte blanche to smear anyone that comes forward. First, got a link? Second, that would only matter for people in Massachusetts.
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quote:71-year-old Jimmy Page, now dating a 25-year-old Look, I'm all for "age doesn't matter (past a certain age)" but this is loving absurd
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Man, I used to be fine watching Polanski films when I was younger (teenager) but like I tried to watch a Woody Allen movie for the first time like 2 years back (Manhattan) and it just made me extremely uncomfortable and I stopped it. Like I just have trouble understanding how people who are aware of their crimes not have trouble watching their films, because even beyond the whole "the artist who created this piece of media is a monster" the films often have like thematic elements where you are just constantly reminded of their crimes.
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Snooze Cruise posted:Like I just have trouble understanding how people who are aware of their crimes not have trouble watching their films, because even beyond the whole "the artist who created this piece of media is a monster" the films often have like thematic elements where you are just constantly reminded of their crimes. Ninth Gate is the only Polanski movie I would watch again, probably because it doesn't have any particularly weird sex stuff. The last Woody Allen movie I tried to watch was Annie Hall and... yeah that didn't go well, I just turned it off. e: I don't remember which thread but I made an effortpost about Hal Hartley along the lines of "separating art from artist". Lemme see if I can find it precision fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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Nov 3, 2017 19:45
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Sorry, I love Repulsion and Rosemarys Baby and I’m not going to let Polanski’s crimes change that.
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Polanski doesn't cast himself in his movies anymore. With Allen you don't get a choice, you have to put the whole turd in your mouth.
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Most of Woody Allens movies suck anyway so they’re easier to avoid
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Super Fan posted:Sorry, I love Repulsion and Rosemarys Baby and I’m not going to let Polanski’s crimes change that. I am not saying it should, like I have really good memories of Rosemary's Baby myself. I personally wouldn't be able to watch it again but that is just me. Its just sometimes people act like its the easiest thing in the world to watch those movies, but its hard to seperate art from the artist in the case where the art sometimes resemble's the artist's crimes.
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Snooze Cruise posted:I am not saying it should, like I have really good memories of Rosemary's Baby myself. I personally wouldn't be able to watch it again but that is just me. Its just sometimes people act like its the easiest thing in the world to watch those movies, but its hard to seperate art from the artist in the case where the art sometimes resemble's the artist's crimes. I'm with you on this. Chinatown was one of my favorite all time movies, but I wasn't able to finish watching last time I tried. I worry that Kevin Spacey is going to make rewatching L.A. Confidential hard to do.
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Nov 3, 2017 19:56
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Woody Allen I never cared for, and Polanski alright but I've never had a hankering for rewatching any of his films. Spacey though, I've watched Seven & LA Confidential a bunch of times, and a bunch of others. That's gonna be hard on me, the innocent movie fan caught up in this mess.
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Nov 3, 2017 20:15
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Innocent movie fan would make for a great SNL character.
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Remember when Polanski was in Rush Hour 3 a Brett Ratner film
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Snooze Cruise posted:I am not saying it should, like I have really good memories of Rosemary's Baby myself. I personally wouldn't be able to watch it again but that is just me. Its just sometimes people act like its the easiest thing in the world to watch those movies, but its hard to seperate art from the artist in the case where the art sometimes resemble's the artist's crimes. Kinda sounds like you're attempting to guilt people who enjoy Polanskis or Allens work.
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Super Fan posted:Kinda sounds like you're attempting to guilt people who enjoy Polanskis or Allens work. Ahh! I really am trying not to, sorry if it comes across that way. I feel like I am having trouble getting across what I mean.
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Snooze Cruise posted:Ahh! I really am trying not to, sorry if it comes across that way. I feel like I am having trouble getting across what I mean. It's cool man
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Snooze Cruise posted:Innocent movie fan would make for a great SNL character. Super Fan what do you say, you up for it?
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Powaqoatse posted:Woody Allen I never cared for, and Polanski alright but I've never had a hankering for rewatching any of his films. Yeah I'm trying not to think about the Spacey thing too much because he has been in a lot of movies I love, and is often the reason I loved them. 
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Pacific Rim Uprising writers had 3 weeks to put a script together. Then their main character had to be removed. He sounds optimistic and positive in the article, but I can't wait for the followup think pieces after it bombs critically and he blames the fact that they only had 3 weeks to write the script and then the main character had to be removed.
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Nov 3, 2017 21:21
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wyoming posted:It's pretty easy to ruin all of rock and roll. https://local.theonion.com/man-always-gets-little-rush-out-of-telling-people-john-1819578998
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precision posted:Yeah I'm trying not to think about the Spacey thing too much because he has been in a lot of movies I love, and is often the reason I loved them. On the other hand he was also in KPAX and Pay It Forward so gently caress him.
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wyoming posted:It's pretty easy to ruin all of rock and roll. Didn't Led Zeppelin basically kidnap a teenager to use as a sex slave for a couple weeks?
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Skwirl posted:Didn't Led Zeppelin basically kidnap a teenager to use as a sex slave for a couple weeks? Jimmy Page. She was the Lori Maddox mentioned in one of the upthread links. And it was for three years, not a couple of weeks, starting when she was 14.
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feedmyleg posted:Pacific Rim Uprising writers had 3 weeks to put a script together. Then their main character had to be removed. He sounds optimistic and positive in the article, but I can't wait for the followup think pieces after it bombs critically and he blames the fact that they only had 3 weeks to write the script and then the main character had to be removed. There have been plenty of other movies with as much fuckery script-wise before shooting that have turned out well. DeKnight has been reliably good in the past, so I'm still holding out hope for some good rock 'em sock 'em action at least.
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Nov 3, 2017 21:44
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No wonder he bought Crowley's old house. e: (Jimmy Page, that is)
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Nov 3, 2017 21:45
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I wonder if Bryan Singer is going to actually get in trouble this time. It didn't seem like there was much fallout when he initially got accused, but Kevin Spacey is apparently a regular attendee at his creepy parties.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I wonder if Bryan Singer is going to actually get in trouble this time. It didn't seem like there was much fallout when he initially got accused, but Kevin Spacey is apparently a regular attendee at his creepy parties. If everyone is 18 or older at those creepy parties I don't see it becoming a big deal. Of course that is a big "if."
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Phanatic posted:Jimmy Page. She was the Lori Maddox mentioned in one of the upthread links. And it was for three years, not a couple of weeks, starting when she was 14. This makes the groupie-trading in Almost Famous even grosser
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Well now we know why he had a soft spot for Baby He was too old for him
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Well now we know why he had a soft spot for Baby Oh gently caress I hadn't even thought of Baby Driver, drat it
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Skwirl posted:If everyone is 18 or older at those creepy parties I don't see it becoming a big deal. Of course that is a big "if." Alan Ball basically admitted that the parties are all about coercing young men into having sex with older men if they want to become Hollywood stars. It seems like he didn't even realize what he was saying was incredibly morally repugnant. https://www.thewrap.com/bret-easton-ellis-tells-alan-ball-invited-bryan-singer-underage-party-audio/ IShallRiseAgain fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Uh, there is a pretty good chance not everybody at those parties were 18 or older. But that's unpossible, Singer says they check IDs at the door!
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well why not posted:Leto rumours have been swirling for years at this point. Lots of people out there say he likes young girls. I don't know if his band ever had particularly young fans, they always sounded like a safe emo band doing U2 covers. I was in high school during the My Chemical Romance era and no one cared about 30 Seconds To Mars. I hope the doors open on this because the music industry would just straight up end. You would have to disavow basically every major star from Elvis on. precision posted:Look, I'm all for "age doesn't matter (past a certain age)" but this is loving absurd Isn't Goldblum banging some 19 year old?
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Uh, there is a pretty good chance not everybody at those parties were 18 or older. When Bret loving Easton Ellis is uncomfortable with what you're doing, that's a bad sign. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Isn't Goldblum banging some 19 year old? Oh, I think I did hear about that several years ago. In my mind I'd never really put an age to Goldblum, but he's 65 now, jesus.
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Nov 3, 2017 22:45
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Every movie Victor Salva made was just an excuse to watch teen boys showering or peeing.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Every movie Victor Salva made was just an excuse to watch teen boys showering or peeing.
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Skwirl posted:If everyone is 18 or older at those creepy parties I don't see it becoming a big deal. Of course that is a big "if." Okay yeah that's totally fine. If the 18+ year olds don't wanna have sex with their bosses they can just get fired and gently caress off forever. Get jobs as gaffers best boys in idk Alaska
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I'm pretty sure Skwirl just meant "not a big deal" as in "not criminal and intensely morally repugnant".
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precision posted:I'm pretty sure Skwirl just meant "not a big deal" as in "not criminal and intensely morally repugnant". I'm pretty sure pressuring people into sex in order to employ them is still pretty morally repugnant and possibly criminal. It being 18+ just takes a single layer off the loving skeeze.
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